槟城房地产投资

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jeffanb 发表于 23-4-2014 04:32 PM
之前的确说是”past and Future"， 不过最新的应该是non-retrospective， 也就是说只有在01-Mar或之后签s ...

谢谢你，确定过后，可以在这里分享一下

ee33

房产交易量略滑落 槟住宅仍抢手
2014-04-23 15:21



（槟城22日讯）槟州房地产交易在2013年出现下滑的现象，整体交易的单位从2012年的3万997个单位滑落至2万4346个单位。

整体交易额增长

不过，在整体交易额上仍然出现增长的趋势，从2012年的129亿令吉增至135亿令吉，涨幅为4.5%。其中，住宅单位的交易仍是占据整体交易数量的72.7%，随后是商业单位的9.2%。

根据财政部产业评估及服务局2013年房地产市场报告，槟州的房屋市场持续出现放缓的状况。其中住宅产业交易继续萎缩，从2012年的24.2%下跌至23.9%，这主要是因为10万令吉以下的房屋交易量并不理想。

虽然商业、工业和农业用途土地分别下滑20.7%、24.2%和5.3%，但交易额却出乎意料的增长，分别为1.4%、3.3%和7.8%。

数区屋价持续上涨

该报告也指出，数个地点的屋价仍处于上涨的趋势，其中峇央峇鲁单层排屋上升了15.5%，而日落洞单层排屋的价格更是高达85万至90万令吉；在威北方面，单层排屋的价格也增长了10.2%，介于12万7000令吉至15万5000令吉。

至于双层排屋方面，浮罗池滑的房屋价格则是在110万至150万之间，而威中武吉柔府花园的双层排屋价格则保持了双位数的增长，即20.7%。

而湖内第二花园3房式组屋的价格更是飙涨得惊人，升涨了29.2%，价格介于22万至24万令吉；立信花园和甘密山花园的单位价格也维持在双位数的增长，分别为22.6%和18%。

在公寓项目中，槟城时代广场公寓的价格是介于55万至68万令吉，而Villa Emas的单位价格则是增长24.6%。

此外，在高级公寓项目里，槟岛东北县的飙涨率仍然独占鳌头，最高的幅度为34.1%，价格介于63万令吉至265万令吉，其中合您百乐宫公寓每单位的价格更是高达350万令吉。

槟二桥带动峇都加湾发展

已建峻却未售出的单位仍不断的慢慢上涨中，从2012年的142个单位升至2013年的366个单位。

至于在建造中和还没展开工程的未售出单位则分别下跌至23.5%和82.8%。

无论如何，该报告书仍然对槟州产业的发展保持乐观，尤其是是苏丹阿都哈林大桥（二桥）通车后，会带动峇都加湾和周遭的发展。

该报告中指出，槟州政府所推行的房屋政策如共享拥有权计划也将刺激房地产市场。

“宜家的到来，更是为市场注射入一支强心针，也让市场迈向正面发展。”

http://www.nanyang.com/node/616195?tid=513

robertong

tree residence值得买吗？好像对面setia好多在卖？各位有什么高见，那一区值得投资吗

caoyun

andy_pg 发表于 23-4-2014 05:29 PM
朋友希望我们买的PWC里的那座Blk F LMC 的屋主们没租给外劳,不然我们要住时面对这些头疼的问题就惨了。

不懂是谁谣传 block F 是 LMC. 我那天有问 IVORY. 他们说到现在为止, 没有任何消息在 TBR 会有 LMC.  但 Affortable Unit 是有可能的. 假设affortable unit 是四十万, 又有人买来租给外劳, 就真的无言了.
不过, 如果我是老板, 打算替我的外劳找地方租, 我也会找那些每月租金RM1000 的单位.何必投资那么多..
所以, 幸好想不到理由...

jeffanb

caoyun 发表于 24-4-2014 10:18 AM
不懂是谁谣传 block F 是 LMC. 我那天有问 IVORY. 他们说到现在为止, 没有任何消息在 TBR 会有 LMC.  但  ...

LMC看来不在Bays Garden， 是分开的申请，两栋楼三十多层高。而Ivory也好像帮Asia Green提出Quaywest的申请，有提到affordable housing。


"PERMOHONANKEBENARAN MERANCANG UNTUK MENDIRIKAN SKIM PEMBANGUNAN BERCAMPUR YANG TERDIRI DARIPADA:- FASA 1A 1 TINGKAT ARAS BAWAH TANAH TEMPAT LETAK KENDERAAN DAN 1 BLOK 36 TINGKAT BANGUNAN TERMASUK 6 TINGKAT TEMPAT LETAK KENDERAAN [PARAS 1  6] DAN 2 TINGKAT KEMUDAHAN MASYARAKAT [PARAS 7 & 21] DENGAN: 1. MENARA A  28 TINGKAT KONDOMINIUM (219 UNIT) [PARAS 8  20 & 22  36]; 2. MENARA B  25 TINGKAT KONDOMINIUM (254 UNIT) [PARAS 8  20 & 22  33]; 3. MENARA C  13 TINGKAT KONDOMINIUM MAMPU MILIK (159 UNIT) [PARAS 8  20] DI ATAS NO. PT3984 DAN SEBAHAGIAN TANAH KERAJAAN BAYAN MUTIARA, PERSIARAN BAYAN INDAH, MUKIM 13, DAERAH TIMUR LAUT, PULAU PINANG. "

"PERMOHONAN KEBENARAN MERANCANG BAGI CADANGAN UNTUK MENDIRIKAN PANGSAPURI KOS SEDERHANA RENDAH YANG TERDIRI DARIPADA:- A) FASA 1  1 BLOK 33 TINGKAT BANGUNAN (707 UNIT) TERMASUK 10 TINGKAT PODIUM MENGANDUNGI TEMPAT LETAK KENDERAAN B) FASA 2  1 BLOK 32 TINGKAT BANGUNAN (827 UNIT) TERMASUK 8 TINGKAT PODIUM MENGANDUNGI TEMPAT LETAK KENDERAAN DI ATAS TANAH KERAJAAN, BAYAN MUTIARA, PERSIARAN BAYAN INDAH, MUKIM 13, DAERAH TIMUR LAUT, PULAU PINANG. "

"PERMOHONAN KEBENARAN MERANCANG BAGI CADANGAN UNTUK MENDIRIKAN SKIM PEMBANGUNAN BERCAMPUR YANG TERDIRI DARIPADA:- FASA 1A  1 BLOK 22 TINGKAT BANGUNAN TERMASUK 3 TINGKAT PODIUM YANG MENGANDUNGI TEMPAT LETAK KENDERAAN DAN KEMUDAHAN MASYARAKAT DAN 1 TINGKAT SUB-BASEMEN TEMPAT LETAK KENDERAAN DENGAN :- 1) MENARA A & B  19 TINGKAT KONDOMINIUM (472 UNIT) 2) MENARA C & D  19 TINGKAT KONDOMINIUM (434 UNIT) 3) MENARA E  19 TINGKAT KONDOMINIUM (168 UNIT) 4) MENARA F  18 TINGKAT KONDOMINIUM (269 UNIT) FASA 1B  1 BLOK 24 TINGKAT BANGUNAN TERMASUK 4 TINGKAT PODIUM MENGANDUNGI TEMPAT LETAK KENDERAAN DAN KEMUDAHAN MASYARAKAT DAN 1 TINGKAT BASEMEN TEMPAT LETAK KENDERAAN DENGAN :- 1) MENARA A  20 TINGKAT BANGUNAN TERMASUK 6 TINGKAT PANGSAPURI PERKHIDMATAN (222 UNIT) DAN 14 TINGKAT SOHO (447 UNIT) & KEMUDAHAN MASYARAKAT DI TINGKAT BUMBUNG. 2) MENARA B  20 TINGKAT SOHO (566 UNIT) & KEMUDAHAN MASYARAKAT DI TINGKAT BUMBUNG DI ATAS NO. P.T. 3985 (SEBAHAGIAN PARCEL A) DAN NO. P.T. 3945, BAYAN MUTIARA, PERSIARAN BAYAN INDAH, MK. 13, DAERAH TIMUR LAUT, PULAU PINANG. UNTUK TETUAN TROPICANA IVORY SDN. BHD. "

andy_pg

caoyun 发表于 24-4-2014 10:18 AM
不懂是谁谣传 block F 是 LMC. 我那天有问 IVORY. 他们说到现在为止, 没有任何消息在 TBR 会有 LMC.  但  ...

希望是这样
,不过在batu maung 的双层排屋市价也来到900K以上,也是有很多租给外劳。

andy_pg

jeffanb 发表于 24-4-2014 11:20 AM
LMC看来不在Bays Garden， 是分开的申请，两栋楼三十多层高。而Ivory也好像帮Asia Green提出Quaywest的申 ...

谢谢分享,那如果Ivory 在bayan mutiara那边有起2BLK的LMC的话,那BR和Quaywest还要起affortable unit给政府吗?

caoyun

andy_pg 发表于 24-4-2014 02:36 PM
谢谢分享,那如果Ivory 在bayan mutiara那边有起2BLK的LMC的话,那BR和Quaywest还要起affortable unit给政府 ...

好像是要的，記得當時有規定一定要多少% LMC and affordable house.

caoyun

jeffanb 发表于 24-4-2014 11:20 AM
LMC看来不在Bays Garden， 是分开的申请，两栋楼三十多层高。而Ivory也好像帮Asia Green提出Quaywest的申 ...

感覺密度很高很高。。。。

kenny5531

想请问jeff大大我有一间在Taman bukit jambul （现在250k) ,前两年拿去refinance,现在供着，如果现在想卖掉，是不是也要遵守你们讨论的新的法令，那我是不是不能卖了？

caoyun

ps_yeoh 发表于 24-4-2014 09:39 PM
要找三百千一下的屋有什么介绍吗。最好是靠近gelutong express way。

http://www.mudah.my/Serina+Bay+Renovated-26890069.htm

价钱应该可以商量的.. 符合你的 budget

darienong

kenny5531 发表于 24-4-2014 10:03 PM
想请问jeff大大我有一间在Taman bukit jambul （现在250k) ,前两年拿去refinance,现在供着，如果现在想卖掉 ...

refinance但是没有转名字吧？如果没有转名字，你持有这间公寓的时间是从你签买卖合约买它的时候算起的。。现在要卖应该不受影响的！

darienong

jeffanb 发表于 23-4-2014 04:32 PM
之前的确说是”past and Future"， 不过最新的应该是non-retrospective， 也就是说只有在01-Mar或之后签s ...

以下的讯息是从州政府的月刊里所载，应该比较可信吧：

Penang’s NewHousing Rules Effective 1 February 2014

December 19th, 2013 Leavea comment

file:///C:\Users\ITD079\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\01\clip_image001.jpgUPDATE:The new housing rules announced in the 2014 Penang state Budget approved at thePenang State Assembly and proposed to be effective from 1 February 2014 aredesigned to protect Penang from being adversely affected by a property bubbleas well as ensuring that public housing and affordable housing are bought bygenuine purchasers who are qualified first time buyers from lower andmiddle-income groups.
Public housing are low-cost houses up to RM42,000 and low-medium cost housesfrom RM72,500 to RM400,000 on the island and from RM72,500 to RM250,000 on theSeberang.
As a responsible government seeking sustainable economic growth anddevelopment, the Penang state government is careful to avoid the pitfalls ofany property bubble that will bring hardship to the rakyat and damage theeconomy. Japan is a good lesson of the dangers of a property bubble. Thesehousing rules were discussed with stakeholders especially those from theproperty industry who had objected to them.
The state government has set up a RM500 million Public Housing AndAffordable Housing Fund to build 20,000 units of public housing and affordablehousing in all 5 districts of Penang. This is the largest amount set aside byany state government in Malaysian history to build affordable and publichousing. Naturally, these new rules are necessary as the state government isconcerned that first-time buyers may not be given the first opportunity to buythem and reduce exploitation for speculative gain.
104 Units of Shared Ownership Scheme (SOS) & 51 Units ofRent-Buy Scheme
Further the State Government would also implement Malaysia’s first everShared Ownership Scheme(SOS), a historic joint purchase initiative between thestate government and poor purchasers, for those who just miss out on getting a90% or 100% bank loan, by offering a 30% interest-free loan from the stategovernment whilst they need to borrow the remaining 70% from banks instead of a90% or 100% bank loan. 104 units of low-cost houses in Taman Sungai Duri,Seberang Perai Selatan will be the pilot scheme for SOS. The State Governmentwould also implement a “rent-buy scheme” of 51 units in Taman Seruling EmasFlats, Seberang Perai Selatan for the poor who are unqualified to obtain anybank loans or where banks refuse to lend any amount of loans to them.
As a people-centric government, the Penang state government wants to achievehousing democracy that allows every working family to own their own homes.Ensuring that public housing (low cost and low medium cost houses) is owned bythe poor and genuine first time buyers is our priority. The state government iscommitted to assisting first-time buyers to have the opportunity to buyaffordable homes and is willing to accept any criticism or face any legalchallenges by those who oppose this commitment, whether from NGOs or BN.
The Penang state EXCO had during its last meeting refined the new housingrules for clarity and certainty as follows:
1. Public Housing – Low Cost And Low Medium Cost Housing
All low cost homes (up to RM42,000) and low-medium cost homes(up toRM72,500) purchased cannot be sold for 10 years from the date of Sale andPurchase Agreement. Those who wish to sell during the first 10 years mustappeal to the state government and can only be sold to “listed buyers”. Theprice transacted will not be set by the state government but will be on a“willing buyer, willing seller” basis by both the “listed buyer” and theseller. Listed buyers are those who have registered with the Housing Departmentof the state government and are certified as low income groups that arequalified to purchase low-cost or low-medium cost housing. This 10 year rulewill cover all past and future purchases. The balloting of houses will besubject to oversight by an auditing firm, the first time this is done by anystate government in Malaysia.
2. Affordable Housing
Affordable housing is classified as houses which were initially purchasedbelow RM400,000 on the island and RM 250,000 on the mainland. Affordablehousing purchased can not be sold for for a period of 5 years from date ofSales and Purchase Agreement. Those who wish to sell during the first 5 yearsmust appeal to the state government and can only be sold to “listed buyers”.The price transacted will not be set by the state government but will be on a“willing buyer, willing seller” basis by both the “listed buyer” and theseller. “Listed buyers” are those who have registered with the HousingDepartment of the state government and are certified as middle-income groupsthat are qualified to purchase affordable housing. This 5 year rule will onlycover all properties transacted on or after 1 February 2014. In other words itwill not be retrospective but affect only Sales and Purchase Agreement signedon or after 1 February 2014.
3. Purchases By Non-Citizens
Non-citizens can only purchase properties in Penang in excess of RM1 millionand for landed property on the island must exceed RM2 million. All purchases ofproperties by non-residents will be subject to a 3% levy on the transactedprice for Sales and Purchase Agreement signed on or after 1 February 2014. Exemptionsare provided for purchases for industry purposes or for a purpose that promotesemployment, education, human talent or promoting Penang as an international andintelligent city.
4. 2% Levy On Property Purchased After 1.2.2014 Sold Within 3 Years
A 2% levy will be imposed on the seller for all property sold within 3 yearsfrom the date of the Sales & Purchase Agreement(SPA) signed from 1 February2014. In other words, this is not retrospective. Properties bought with the SPAsigned before 1 February 2014 will not be subject to this levy. Only propertiesbought with the SPA on or after 1 February 2014 will be subject to the 2% levyif sold within 3 years. This 2% levy is not applicable to affordable housing.
Active discussions are continuing with the Bar Council, banks, propertydevelopers both in and outside Penang as well as other associations to briefthem on the new housing rules which are in force for SPA signed on or after 1February 2014 , except for low-cost or low-medium cost housing.
Source: Buletin Mutiara

darienong

jeffanb 发表于 23-4-2014 04:32 PM
之前的确说是”past and Future"， 不过最新的应该是non-retrospective， 也就是说只有在01-Mar或之后签s ...

以下的讯息是从州政府的月刊里所载，应该比较可信吧：

Penang’s NewHousing Rules Effective 1 February 2014

December 19th, 2013 Leavea comment

file:///C:\Users\ITD079\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\01\clip_image001.jpgUPDATE:The new housing rules announced in the 2014 Penang state Budget approved at thePenang State Assembly and proposed to be effective from 1 February 2014 aredesigned to protect Penang from being adversely affected by a property bubbleas well as ensuring that public housing and affordable housing are bought bygenuine purchasers who are qualified first time buyers from lower andmiddle-income groups.
Public housing are low-cost houses up to RM42,000 and low-medium cost housesfrom RM72,500 to RM400,000 on the island and from RM72,500 to RM250,000 on theSeberang.
As a responsible government seeking sustainable economic growth anddevelopment, the Penang state government is careful to avoid the pitfalls ofany property bubble that will bring hardship to the rakyat and damage theeconomy. Japan is a good lesson of the dangers of a property bubble. Thesehousing rules were discussed with stakeholders especially those from theproperty industry who had objected to them.
The state government has set up a RM500 million Public Housing AndAffordable Housing Fund to build 20,000 units of public housing and affordablehousing in all 5 districts of Penang. This is the largest amount set aside byany state government in Malaysian history to build affordable and publichousing. Naturally, these new rules are necessary as the state government isconcerned that first-time buyers may not be given the first opportunity to buythem and reduce exploitation for speculative gain.
104 Units of Shared Ownership Scheme (SOS) & 51 Units ofRent-Buy Scheme
Further the State Government would also implement Malaysia’s first everShared Ownership Scheme(SOS), a historic joint purchase initiative between thestate government and poor purchasers, for those who just miss out on getting a90% or 100% bank loan, by offering a 30% interest-free loan from the stategovernment whilst they need to borrow the remaining 70% from banks instead of a90% or 100% bank loan. 104 units of low-cost houses in Taman Sungai Duri,Seberang Perai Selatan will be the pilot scheme for SOS. The State Governmentwould also implement a “rent-buy scheme” of 51 units in Taman Seruling EmasFlats, Seberang Perai Selatan for the poor who are unqualified to obtain anybank loans or where banks refuse to lend any amount of loans to them.
As a people-centric government, the Penang state government wants to achievehousing democracy that allows every working family to own their own homes.Ensuring that public housing (low cost and low medium cost houses) is owned bythe poor and genuine first time buyers is our priority. The state government iscommitted to assisting first-time buyers to have the opportunity to buyaffordable homes and is willing to accept any criticism or face any legalchallenges by those who oppose this commitment, whether from NGOs or BN.
The Penang state EXCO had during its last meeting refined the new housingrules for clarity and certainty as follows:
1. Public Housing – Low Cost And Low Medium Cost Housing
All low cost homes (up to RM42,000) and low-medium cost homes(up toRM72,500) purchased cannot be sold for 10 years from the date of Sale andPurchase Agreement. Those who wish to sell during the first 10 years mustappeal to the state government and can only be sold to “listed buyers”. Theprice transacted will not be set by the state government but will be on a“willing buyer, willing seller” basis by both the “listed buyer” and theseller. Listed buyers are those who have registered with the Housing Departmentof the state government and are certified as low income groups that arequalified to purchase low-cost or low-medium cost housing. This 10 year rulewill cover all past and future purchases. The balloting of houses will besubject to oversight by an auditing firm, the first time this is done by anystate government in Malaysia.
2. Affordable Housing
Affordable housing is classified as houses which were initially purchasedbelow RM400,000 on the island and RM 250,000 on the mainland. Affordablehousing purchased can not be sold for for a period of 5 years from date ofSales and Purchase Agreement. Those who wish to sell during the first 5 yearsmust appeal to the state government and can only be sold to “listed buyers”.The price transacted will not be set by the state government but will be on a“willing buyer, willing seller” basis by both the “listed buyer” and theseller. “Listed buyers” are those who have registered with the HousingDepartment of the state government and are certified as middle-income groupsthat are qualified to purchase affordable housing. This 5 year rule will onlycover all properties transacted on or after 1 February 2014. In other words itwill not be retrospective but affect only Sales and Purchase Agreement signedon or after 1 February 2014.
3. Purchases By Non-Citizens
Non-citizens can only purchase properties in Penang in excess of RM1 millionand for landed property on the island must exceed RM2 million. All purchases ofproperties by non-residents will be subject to a 3% levy on the transactedprice for Sales and Purchase Agreement signed on or after 1 February 2014. Exemptionsare provided for purchases for industry purposes or for a purpose that promotesemployment, education, human talent or promoting Penang as an international andintelligent city.
4. 2% Levy On Property Purchased After 1.2.2014 Sold Within 3 Years
A 2% levy will be imposed on the seller for all property sold within 3 yearsfrom the date of the Sales & Purchase Agreement(SPA) signed from 1 February2014. In other words, this is not retrospective. Properties bought with the SPAsigned before 1 February 2014 will not be subject to this levy. Only propertiesbought with the SPA on or after 1 February 2014 will be subject to the 2% levyif sold within 3 years. This 2% levy is not applicable to affordable housing.
Active discussions are continuing with the Bar Council, banks, propertydevelopers both in and outside Penang as well as other associations to briefthem on the new housing rules which are in force for SPA signed on or after 1February 2014 , except for low-cost or low-medium cost housing.
Source: Buletin Mutiara

andy_pg

darienong 发表于 25-4-2014 09:16 AM
refinance但是没有转名字吧？如果没有转名字，你持有这间公寓的时间是从你签买卖合约买它的时候算起的。。 ...

那天我有问槟州房屋局.他们说现在要卖的没问题,现在买的十年里不可卖,低过4百K只可以卖给槟城人,外州人只可以买超过4百K的房屋,要买的人还要向他们申请真的是这样吗?一下子很多的槟岛屋都成了槟州政府的廉价屋,亏他们想得到。我觉得买到政府屋的0K,像我以前没屋时申请时拿不到,没办法下才买别的屋子,现在我觉得买100K至300多K的很不公平,要就他们自己起LMC,不要拿我们的,当是他们的.好了这只是我本身意见而己,谢谢。

lich

andy_pg 发表于 25-4-2014 10:16 AM
那天我有问槟州房屋局.他们说现在要卖的没问题,现在买的十年里不可卖,低过4百K只可以卖给槟城人,外州人 ...

我在槟城落地生根很久了，但IC是外州的，那我到底是那里人？

andy_pg

lich 发表于 25-4-2014 10:38 AM
我在槟城落地生根很久了，但IC是外州的，那我到底是那里人？

那就买超过400百K的吧,不然就Ic换地址不知可以吗?

darienong

andy_pg 发表于 25-4-2014 10:16 AM
那天我有问槟州房屋局.他们说现在要卖的没问题,现在买的十年里不可卖,低过4百K只可以卖给槟城人,外州人只 ...

你得到的答案跟据我所知是一致的。你的产房虽然卖价超出250千，但是因为你的产房是在 "SENARAI SKIM PERUMAHAN BERSTRATA KOS SEDERHANA RENDAH" 的名单内，据我手头上有的名单，Taman Bukit Jambul Blok D,E,F,G & H 跟 Taman Bukit Jambul Blok A, B & C, 分别列在名单的第14 跟16项目。

darienong

lich 发表于 25-4-2014 10:38 AM
我在槟城落地生根很久了，但IC是外州的，那我到底是那里人？

其实你不必是槟城人也可以去向州政府注册跟申请的。

充少

小弟想買一間200k用來出租的，有哪裡好介紹呢？謝謝...