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发表于 15-4-2015 02:33 PM
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Full Tax Invoice必须列出未加上GST的原价,GST amount以及加上了GST的最后价格。
Simplified的话不必列出未加上GST的原价。GSTamount以及加上GST的最后价格必须列出。
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发表于 15-4-2015 02:35 PM
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发表于 15-4-2015 02:45 PM
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GST未施行前,大型的停车场的停车费是包含6%的tax,不是10%。所以GST施行了,相当于把原本的6% tax变成GST。价格应该不变,利润也应该不变。
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发表于 15-4-2015 03:08 PM
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本帖最后由 miaomiaooh 于 15-4-2015 03:21 PM 编辑
谢谢你的回答
那么在“单据”上的“每一项的物品”的价格,
是列出原价还是列出已加入GST的价格??
我公司的单据最下面已经有了amount before GST, GST6% 和 total amount with GST这3个东西,
只是上面的每一项物品价格要列出原价还是列出已加入GST的价格还不懂,
因为这个问题,问了几个会计师和auditor,都得到不一定的答案,
谢谢
在哪里的官方资料上有讲解,因为我的上司会问到的,给他问到口哑哑就惨了
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发表于 15-4-2015 03:45 PM
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若单据指的是Full Tax Invoice,“每一项的物品”的价格必须列出原价(没有GST)。
source:GST Guide on Tax Invoice and Records Keeping Paragraph 15(g)
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发表于 15-4-2015 06:57 PM
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1. GST 指南说 Retail Industry 的 Display Price 〉Unit Price 一定是 GST Inclusive; Simplified Tax Invoice 指南说发票必须显示GST Payable (Inclusive GST); 要是在Stock Item 设的是 GST Exclusive Price, 你开发票时就一定要设 GST Inclusive, 然后软件会在发票上显示TOTAL PAYABLE (Inclusve GST)。 其他不在前面所说的情况,应设GST EXCUSIVE PRICE, TOTAL AMOUNT PAYBLE (EXCLUSIVE GST)。
2. GST Amount 是两个小数点 (TWO DECIMAL POINT),要是你们计算出来的GST AMOUNT 是 3 个 小数点, 就要按四舍五入法把GST AMOUNT 调整到两个小数点。
3。GST AMOUNT Rounding Adjustment 和 Total Bill AMOUNT Rounding Adjustment 是不一样的;TOTAL Bill AMOUNT ROUNDING 是根据 BNM 的 ROUNDING ADJUSTMENT 办法,这个ROUNDING ADJUSTMENT 只限于OVER—THE—COUNTER Transactions: 意思是CASH SALES/ POS SYSTEM/retail industry 可以用,其他行业不能用,其办法是ROUNDING TO NEAREST 5 cents; 小数点二位数是1,2,6,7 的 舍,3,4,8,9 的就入。例子:RM2.01, 2.02 〉Rounded off to RM2.00; RM2.03, RM2.04 > Rounding off to RM2.05; RM2.06, RM2.07 > Rounded off to RM2.05, RM2.08, RM2.09 > Ronding off to RM2.10. (以5为中心点,1和2离5较远,3 和4离5较近;6 和 7 离5 较近,8 和9离5较远) 。Retail 的 RoundingAdjustment 是在TOTAL BILL AMOUNT, 不是在ITEM AMOUNT (LINE ITEM)。
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发表于 15-4-2015 08:21 PM
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不是叻。我经常claim停车费
在GST前,停车费的收据是显示10%
回想一下
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发表于 16-4-2015 07:17 AM
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希望大大可以帮到我。
想请问如果做1个新的(神手)的斗。
以前就写=做斗1粒 rm2000。
现在要如何写呢?
因为原料有 = 铁,shaft,washer,welding rod ,bush 等等。
因为如果现在写=做斗1粒 rm2000。那么我的stock(铁,shaft,washer,welding rod ,bush) 没有出到。
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发表于 16-4-2015 12:51 PM
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肯定???
现在大部分的商家都是使用 GST Exclusive咯, 每一个item的价钱是未含税的, 在单结尾时才来个Amount Before GST $XXX, GST Amount (6%) $XXX, Total Amount $XXX.
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发表于 16-4-2015 12:53 PM
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肯定???
我听到的是如果要使用第二组号码, 必须写信通知Kastam并拿到允许咯.
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发表于 16-4-2015 01:00 PM
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本帖最后由 statement 于 16-4-2015 01:09 PM 编辑
谢谢大哥指点, 也就是说, 除了Tax Invoice以外的单据都是必须使用GST Inclusive了, 对吗? (我手上70%以上的Simplified Invoice都是使用GST Exclusive方式的)
另外, 我有收到一些invoice是写TAX INVOICE (CASH SALES),那这是Full Tax Invoice 还是Simplified Invoice? (对方的unit price显示是使用GST Exclusive...)
我还有个问题, 如果说我公司主要是做trading, 但有时有些walk-in的customer是直接上门拿货给cash的(算retailing?), 那我需不需要使用Cash Sales/POS system? (暂时我是开Tax Invoice, 那我可以rounding吗?)
谢谢.
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发表于 16-4-2015 05:43 PM
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你可以帮我confirm一下吗?我真的没办法问到可以给我答案的人了。
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发表于 16-4-2015 06:28 PM
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我要找谁confirm? 现在外面各有各说, 偏偏就是kastam静静没声出... so fast 我是听到不少software dealer和accountant是这样说的, Tax Invoice超过一组号码与要使用Simplified Invoice都要写信申请... 不过我也有听到很多人说, 申请了很长时间Kastam都没消息, 所以不管它, 继续照旧多组号码, 继续开Simplified Invoice....
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发表于 16-4-2015 06:33 PM
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本帖最后由 Aquariel 于 16-4-2015 06:35 PM 编辑
大家注意,有最新的DG's Decision 03/2015 - Issue No. 2
Issuance of tax invoice at the beginning of GST implementation.
(a) Whether existing stock of invoices can be stamped with the word ‘tax invoice’ and used by a registered person until the stock last?
(b) Whether a full handwritten tax invoice can be issued by a registered person?
Decision:
(1) The existing stock of invoices which were pre-printed before 1 April 2015 and which were not GST compliant can be used by a supplier who is a registered person until 30th September 2015 or while stock last whichever is the earlier subject to the following conditions –
(a) the invoices and copies of such invoices must be stamped with the word ‘tax invoice’ (for full tax invoice), ‘GST registration number’ and ‘rate of tax’;
(b) the invoices and copies of such invoices must contain all particulars prescribed in the regulation 22 of GSTR (GST Regulations 2014);
(c) the copies of such invoices must be kept and preserved for a period of seven years; and
(d) beginning 1st October 2015, the registered person excluding ‘retailers’ must use a computer generated invoice or pre-printed invoice which is GST compliant.
(2) In the case of ‘retailers’, they must use a GST compliant point of sale (POS) system or a GST compliant cash register to issue GST tax invoices beginning 1st October 2015.
(3) The ‘retailers’ in this item refers to the following categories of businesses –
(a) Hardware shop.
(b) Restaurant including coffee shop.
(c) Mini market, grocery and sundry shop.
(d) Book store.
(e) Pharmacy.
(f) Places of entertainment.
(4) A GST registered person is not allowed to issue any handwritten tax invoices.
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发表于 16-4-2015 10:37 PM
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这个现象真的很奇怪,Simplified Tax Invoice 的指南明明就已经说明是Total GST Inclusive Payable;我上Custom的课也是这样说的。Full Tax Invoice 和 Simplified Tax Invoice 的差别 除了SIMPLIFIED TAX Invoice 不必写客户的名字和地址,还有就是Total Payable 必须是 TAX Inclusive Total 。
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不符合Full Tax Invoice 的 格式就当是Simplified Tax Invoice。 当然现金销售也可以开Full Tax Invoice。 GST指南有说,要是商家开Simplified Tax Invoice 但有客户要求开Full Tax Invoice,商家还是要开具Full Tax Invoice 给该客户,否则违规了。。。。这个也应该包含Cash Bill (Cash Sales)。
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个人觉得不需要,POS 主要是用在门市需要开很多单据的;你可以当你的Sales 是 Cash On Delivery(COD) 吧!
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发表于 16-4-2015 11:49 PM
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1。可以参考 GST 指南:除了客户名字和地址可以省去,Simplified Tax Invoice 的一个特点就是 Tax Inclusive (参考 Full Tax Invoice: g,i > Simplified Tax Invoice: e).
Full Tax Invoice
118. The following information must be reflected on an invoice in order for it to be
considered as a full tax invoice:-
(a) the word ‘tax invoice’ in a prominent place;
(b) the tax invoice serial number;
(c) the date of issuance of the tax invoice;
(d) the name, address and identification number of the supplier;
(e) the name and address of the person to whom the goods or services are
supplied;
(f) a description sufficient to identify the goods or services supplied;
(g) for each description, distinguish the type of supply for zero rate,
standard rate and exempt, the quantity of the goods or the extent of the
services supplied and the amount payable, excluding tax;
(h) any discount offered;
(i) the total amount payable excluding tax, the rate of tax and the total tax
chargeable to be shown separately;
(j) the total amount payable inclusive of the total tax chargeable; and
(k) any amount referred to in subparagraphs (i) and (j), expressed in a
currency, other than Ringgit, shall also be expressed in Ringgit in
accordance with paragraph 5 of the Third Schedule of the GST Act
201X.
121. In this case, the Director General may allow such invoice to be issued by the
registered person provided the invoice contains the following particulars:
(a) the name, address and GST identification number of the supplier;
(b) the date of issuance of the tax invoice;
(c) the tax invoice serial number;
(d) a description sufficient to identify the goods or services supplied;
(e) for each description, distinguish the type of supply for zero rate,
standard rate and exempt, the quantity of the goods or the extent of the
services supplied and the amount payable, including tax;
(f) the total amount payable inclusive of total tax chargeable; and
(g) the rate of tax and the amount of tax chargeable.
这个具体还是要看此invoice 符合不符合 Full Tax Invoice 的格式了。不符合Full Tax Invoice 格式的 就当是Simplified Tax Invoice。 注:GST 指南只要求 Full Tax Invoice 要“Tax Invoice” 字眼显示在发票的显眼的地方,和其他应有的资料也应显示在发票上,但并没有说不让我们多加一些资料,比如这个(Cash Sales)字眼。但我觉得也没有必要写Cash Sales, 一般会计软件是让你在Credit Term 那边写COD (Cash On Delivery)= Cash Sales,不是吗? 可以在Customer Name 那边写Cash Sales. 一般上要是一家公司有Credit Sale 和 Cash Sales, 我们都回把他们各别分录在不同的科目(GL);可以在Debtor 那边设一个Cusotmer 叫 Cash Sales。
个人觉得你不是OTC 没有必要用POS 了,Walk In Customer 不算是Over The Counter ,它只是你一种销售管道吧!要是有Cash Sales 就用Credit Term = COD 如以上所说。BNM 说OTC 很明显是指门市的。
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发表于 17-4-2015 12:47 AM
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根据GST Act 2014 Section 9(5), 所有商家标物品的价钱都必须显示GST inclusive的价钱,除非得到Customs批准。但是的确,很多商家尤其是饮食业的都没有放GST inclusive的价钱。
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发表于 17-4-2015 12:50 AM
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发表于 17-4-2015 11:52 AM
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想问下大家, 如果我公司帮别人买货purchase on behalf,我之前都是开debit note charge他们, 那现在是不是一定要开tax invoice了呢? |
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发表于 17-4-2015 02:09 PM
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对, 照理来说不应该出现这样的情况才对, 但是现在真实情况就是这样.... Simplified Invoice 但却使用GST Exclusive.... 像这样的单据, 如果我们拿去claim, 到时候会不会有问题?
我想我大概猜到为何有这现象出现, 根据我已收到的simplified invoice来看, 发出这类simplified invoice的商家, 都是以trading为主但也有做门市生意的商家, 或许是要方便吧, 所以他们不管是Tax Invoice还是Simplified Invoice都是使用 GST Exclusive 方式. (GST Inclusive方式真的很不适应, 而且容易让顾客产生你价钱比较贵的感觉)
Cash Term on Invoice我一直在用, 所以没问题, 现在我烦恼的是我该不该rounding呢? rounding的话, 是使用四舍五入还是那个Over The Counter? (四舍五入怕顾客不接受, OTC又怕政府不接受), 不rounding的话, 顾客又很难给到整数, 多拿的话, 有些顾客会不爽, 少拿的话, 累计下来数额也不少...
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