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kaixun

纪律是达到一切雄图的阶梯

纪律是胜利之母

Jasminefow

原帖由 kaixun 于 29-1-2007 05:41 AM 发表
纪律是达到一切雄图的阶梯

那么简单的一句话，在原文里却是很长的.
这是Shakespeare的<Troilus and Cressida>里
Act 1, Scene 3: The Grecian camp. Before Agamemnon's tent.
Ulysses的原文片段:

he specialty of rule hath been neglected:
And, look, how many Grecian tents do stand
Hollow upon this plain, so many hollow factions.
When that the general is not like the hive
To whom the foragers shall all repair,
What honey is expected? Degree being vizarded,
The unworthiest shows as fairly in the mask.
The heavens themselves, the planets and this centre
Observe degree, priority and place,
Insisture, course, proportion, season, form,
Office and custom, in all line of order;
And therefore is the glorious planet Sol
In noble eminence enthroned and sphered
Amidst the other; whose medicinable eye
Corrects the ill aspects of planets evil,
And posts, like the commandment of a king,
Sans cheque to good and bad: but when the planets
In evil mixture to disorder wander,
What plagues and what portents! what mutiny!
What raging of the sea! shaking of earth!
Commotion in the winds! frights, changes, horrors,
Divert and crack, rend and deracinate
The unity and married calm of states
Quite from their fixure! O, when degree is shaked,
Which is the ladder to all high designs...

Jasminefow

原帖由 kaixun 于 29-1-2007 05:41 AM 发表

纪律是胜利之母

这是前苏联著名将领(Russian Field Marshal)苏沃洛夫(Alexander V. Suvorov)的名言




我不知道这个有没有正确的根据
＂Victory is achieved only through the combination of courage and military art＂


但是原文The Science of Victory (Nauka Pobezhadt)的有：

＂Training is light, and lack of training is darkness. The problem fears the expert. If a peasant doesn't know how to plow, he can't grow bread. A trained man is worth three untrained: that's too little- say six- six is too little- say ten to one. We will beat them all, roll them up, take them prisoner! In the last campaign the enemy lost 75,000 counted, but more like 100,000 in fact. He fought with skill and desperation, but we didn't even lose 500. You see, lads! Military training! Gentlemen, what a marvelous thing it is!＂




这里有所有他的名言

http://www.napoleonguide.com/aquote_suvarov.htm


这里有关于他的原则
http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.m ... ov-dec/menning.html

kaixun

谢谢版主，＝。＝好长哦，我还以为只是直接翻译，我在我作文书后面看到的，刚好ORAL又和纪律有关，所以想引用一下，看起来比较有墨水

Jasminefow

中文简单的几句，等于原文的几十句
看起来的确有点恐怖


我之前做调查的时候也是啃资料啃到脑袋开花

kaixun

原帖由 Jasminefow 于 30-1-2007 02:39 PM 发表
中文简单的几句，等于原文的几十句
看起来的确有点恐怖


我之前做调查的时候也是啃资料啃到脑袋开花

如果我念那个年好我ORAL时间都完了