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回 黑鸟
是啊！
正所谓“一念天堂，一念地狱”。
那一念，变数万千...
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刚看完 KUNGFU PANDA 回来，打算好回来写感想，但还没整理好思绪，所以便先走访先前回过的帖子，看看有哪些进展。
呵呵，看见了很有意思的一则回帖，结果先把关于KUNGFU PANDA的心得搁一旁，回了那帖子再说。
那是有关上个月末的工作访的回响。
是观众来的回话。
挺开心的，毕竟是交流。
当局做了，就希望听取反映与反应，才能进步。
话说该位网友（观众）这么说：
还好我们没有出席.......
workshop没有列明课程纲要，听有现代舞底子的朋友说，workshop没让有现代舞底子的朋友，有新的学习和体验，rm180没让我们获益，只让主办单位有“好处”！！!
价钱太贵！
建议：降低价钱
列明课程纲要（避免参与者觉得课程与获得不能画上等号）
关于当晚的演出：明白想要呈现的感觉但却不到味，没办法投入...尤其“咔嚓，咔嚓”声,让人特别瞩目！！！
不好意思，请原谅我们的直接。
希望您满意我们给于的feedback，谢谢！
我就只有这么回答：
哦，“还好” “你们”没有出席？（我还纳闷：槟城有现代舞底子的人怎么这么少？不可能。原来是大有人在，不过没来参与）
嗯嗯，有现代舞底子的学员不多(甚至屈指可数)...好好，明白了。
很抱歉让你们有现代舞底子的朋友失望了。
如果按照你们的说法，无法给予有现代舞底子的人有任何的新学习或新体验，那你们没来理应顺理成章的便是益处了啊！
主办当局啊，如果说长途跋涉从中马上来辛苦一番也算是有好处，我想我也没什么好说了。
关于降低价格以及列明课程纲要的建议，我会据实反映给LAPAR LAB知道。
而现场的摄影工作，嗯嗯，也会跟老师说了。
（当时还有人提着摄影器材准备上来大展身手而被阻止下来了）
希望下次有机会可以让有现代舞底子的你们受惠。
谢谢分享，受教了。
观众的反应和反映，不管怎样，我们都应该接受。我也非不高兴，只是老觉得：这说话怎么怪怪的... |
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写完上面的帖子，跟阿佐聊了一下，问他对于是次工作访的看法。
我说：依你看，你觉得这次的课是否好？
他说：好啊！就像其中一位学员说的“很多时候我们去得远了，会忘记了最初的东西。这课，就把那些以前学过的重新温习”。
这句话，可以看成：
1. 学员真切地感觉到一些远去的那些记忆又重新回来了。
2. 学员不过委婉地表达如楼上我所遇见的情况：没有学到新东西。
在我的认知里，可以飞得高、跑得快、跳得远的，不是那些迫不及待不断往上升，不断的喂食“我要新的”的饥饿。相反的，是那些在同样的空间里面，找到了自己定位，然后稳健地、周全地、正面地提升，找到了拓展自己的空间，同时让自己可以更茁壮地成长的那些人。我不选择性去归类究竟这些反映究竟说着什么意思，然而我从那些眼神当中，尤其这位说着唤回曾经的学习的学员，看见她的快乐。她原本是槟城人，因为工作到了首都，刚好工作坊期间她因为工作回来北马，即使工作坊期间她依然得工作而已礼拜天做完汇报演出就得急急忙忙又回中部，但她妥善地安排好时间，把工作努力完成，好让自己能全程上课、学习、温热自己的肢体。我会记得她，娟秀的样子而且清澈的眼神，就在她把学费交给我的那一刻，跟我四目交接告诉了我名字。我在那段时间也不断跟阿佐说，她顶不错的。
xx同学，这句话说得好。温故而知新，多少人会珍惜呢？当我们期望新体验的时候，又是否回头看看自己是不是忘记了怎么走来？
给大家看看谦虚是什么一回事。
这位同学的倩影，把腿拉好，是舞蹈员最基本的要求。
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大家对最近炒翻天的汽油涨价怨声载道，我在电子邮件里看见这么一篇文章。
什么都不说，贴上来，大家自己思考一下...
WHAT IS NEVER MENTIONED IN Mainstream Media like NST/TheStar/ Utusan/BH
are these facts....
Malaysian PerCapita Income USD 5000 VS Singaporean PerCapita Income USD 25000 马来西亚个人年收入指数5千美金 对比 新国个人年指数2万5千美金
Further The Star made a comparison of prices in Thailand , Singapore and Indonesia. For Thailand it is quoted at RM3.90/liter, however are they aware that in Thailand new cars are cheaper than Malaysia by RM10,000? They pay only one life time for their driving license? No renewal fee after that? Also that goes for road tax as well? And do TheStar also aware that you can drive all the way from Hadtyai to Bangkok on a six lane highway without paying any Tolls ??!! THE STAR日前做出马来西亚燃油价格对比临近其他国家（如泰国、新国以及印尼）燃油价格。泰国每公升3.90马币，然而报章并没有载出：
1. 泰国的汽车售价平均比大马的汽车销售价便宜1万马币。
2. 泰国车主一辈子只需缴付一次驾照以及路税而不必更新。
3. 从合艾开往曼谷有一条完全没有收费站的6道大道。
Whereas here in Malaysia you have to pay yearly renewal for road tax, driving license and TOLLS, TOLLS, TOLLS!!! 反过来看大马，驾车人士必须更新驾照、路税，以及给不完的大道过路费！
For Singapore how can you quote RM 5.20? Please quote in Singapore Dollars because they are earning in Sing Dollars. You might as well say
Europeans are paying RM10/liter. RM5.20/liter = Sing $ 2.20/liter, still cheaper than Malaysia in view of fact that Singapore is not a crude oil exporter. Are you saying that you fill up petrol in Singapore by paying Ringgit? 针对新国的状况，报章如何可以报导新国的燃油价为5.20马币？要知道新国人民赚的是新币。如果说新币也可以这么诠释，那么就干脆欧洲人正在付出每公升10马币的燃油好了。以赚新币兑新币来算，5.20马币 = 2.2新币，那依然是比大马便宜。要知道，新国并非原油出产国，除非是在说着在新国用马币加油...
In economy, dollar to dollar must be compared as apple to apple. Not comparing like durian in M'sia is much cheaper than durian in Japan!! Of
course-lah, Japan is not durian producer!!! Comparing Malaysian durian with Thailand durian make more sense!! 在经济学论，一元对一元形同苹果对苹果，而不是拿马来西亚的榴莲跟日本的榴莲来相提并论。那是绝对的嘛，因为日本根本就不是榴莲生产国啊！要比较榴莲，该拿大马跟同样出产榴莲的泰国相比才对。
For Indonesia we might say is cheaper there at RM2.07/liter but compare that to their level of income! 当然对于印尼则另当别论，虽然他们只售每公升2.07马币，但他们的收入却不是可以相提并论的。
Now, let us compare the price with OIL PRODUCING countries: 现在让我们来跟同样是石油出产国的国家比较一下：
>>> UAE RM1.19/litre 阿拉伯酋长国 1.19马币
>>> Eygpt RM1.03/litre 埃及 1.03马币
>>> Bahrain RM0.87/litre 巴瑞 0.87马币
>>> Qatar RM0.68/litre 伽达 0.68马币
>>> Kuwait RM0.67/litre 科威特 0.67马币
>>> Saudi Arabia RM0.38/litre 沙地阿拉伯 0.38马币
>>> IranRM0.35/litre 伊朗 0.35马币
>>> Nigeria RM0.32/litre 尼日利亚 0.32马币
>>> Turkmenistan RM0.25/litre 突门尼斯坦 0.26马币
>>> Venezuela RM0.16/litre 维尼瑞拉 0.16马币
>>> MALAYSIA RM2.70/litre 马来西亚 2.70马币
RM 2.70!!!
Individual perspective: 个人方面：
As of last month a Toyota Vios would 'cause a damage' of about RM 89,000. In the international market, a Toyota Vios is about USD 19,000
USD 19,000 = RM 62,700 (using the indicative rates of USD 1 = RM 3.30) That makes Malaysian Vios owners pay an extra RM 26,300. 上个月，丰田VIOS在大马售价8.9万。在国际市场，一台丰田VIOS是美金1.9万，相当等于马币6.27万 （以1美元兑3.3马币计算），换句话说，马来西亚的VIOS车主足足多付了马币2.63万。
This RM 26,300 should be cost of operations, profit and tax because the transportation costs have been factored in to the USD 19,000.
RM 26,300/ RM625 petrol rebate per year translates to a Vios being used for 42.08 years.I do understand that the RM 625 is a rebate given by the government, but it also means that one has to use the Vios for 42.08 years just to make back the amount paid in taxes for the usage of a foreign car. Would anyone use any kind of car for that long? Now with these numbers in front of us, does the subsidy sound like a subsidy or does it sound like a penalty? This just seems to be a heavy increment in our daily cost of living as we are not only charged with high car taxes but also with a drastic increase in fuel price. 这高达2.63万马币的差别，应该顺理成章的归类为处理、税务以及盈利之上了，因为所有的费用都已计算在美金1.9万里面了啊！如果说这2.63万马币用来除以2千cc一下的每年625马币燃油回扣，一个VIOS车主可以用上42.08年。没错，625马币是政府提供的燃油津贴，然而这也意味着一个人必须应用42.08年的VIOS才能把购买外国车的税务拿回来。谁会开一台车开这么多年？？？这么看来，这所谓的津贴，究竟是津贴还是惩罚？这完全是给我们生活负担加重不知道多少的措施，因为我们不只要负担贵车，还要负担贵油！
With all the numbers listed out, I urge all Malaysians to join me in analyzing the situation further. 看着这些数字，我恳请大马的子民跟我一起分析其他的事情。
Car taxation is government profit, fuel sales is Petronas' (GLC) profit which also translates into government profit. The government may ridicule us Malaysians by saying look at the world market and fuel price world wide. Please, we are Malaysians, we fought of the British, had a
international port in the early centuries (Malacca), home to a racially mixed nation and WE ARE NOT STUPID!!! 汽车销售税务是国家的收入，可燃油的销售是国油（国营机构）的收入，同时也一样是国家的收入。政府可以荒谬地说“看看周遭及看看世界的原油价”。拜托，我们是马来西亚人，征服过英国人，很早世纪便拥有国际港口，拥有多元种族人民的家园，我们一点都不笨好不好！
We know the international rates are above the USD 130/barrel. We understand the fact that the fuel prices are increasing worldwide and we also know that major scientist are still contradicting on why this phenomenon is happening. Some blame Bush and his plunders around the world and some blame climate change and there are others which say petroleum 'wells' are getting scarce. 我们知道现在国际原油价格已经高于每桶美金130，我们明白全球燃油价格都在上升，我们也知道主要的科学家都在寻找这个状况的原因。一些人说是布什以及和他遍布世界的一伙，一些人说是气候转变，而其他人说是油田快要干竭。
Again we go back to numbers to be more straight forward. 再一次，让我们回到数字（那会更直接）。
1 barrel = 159 liters x RM2.70/liter = RM 429 or USD 134。 On 1 hand, we are paying the full cost of 1 barrel of crude oil with RM2.70 per liter but on the other hand the crude oil only produces 46% of fuel. 1桶原油 = 159公升；每公升2.7马币，那一桶则视429马币或者134美金。我们正付出相当于1桶原油的价格，然而原油只产生46%的燃油。
Msia sells crude oil per barrel at USD130 buys back Fuel per barrel at USD134. And not forgetting, every barrel of fuel is produced with 2
barrels of crude oil. 马来西亚以美金130卖出1桶原油然后以美金134买进一桶燃油 （在这里别忘了1桶燃油是以2桶原油所提炼成的）。
>>> if 1 barrel crude oil = produce 46% fuel (or half of crude oil), therefore
>>> 2 barrel crude oil = approximately 1 barrel fuel
假设1桶原油可炼出46%的燃油（或者原油的一半），那么2桶原油便等于1桶燃油。
In other words, each time we sell 2 barrels of crude oil, equivalently we will buy back 1 barrel of fuel. Financially, Malaysia sell 2 barrel crude oil @ USD 130/barrel = USD 260 = RM 858 then, Malaysia will buy back fuel @ USD 134/barrel = RM 442/barrel Thus, Malaysia earn net extra USD 126 = RM 416 for each 2 barrel of crude sold/exported vs imported 1 barrel of fuel !!!
>>> (USD 260-134 = USD 126 = RM416)
换句话说，每一次卖掉2桶原油便买回一桶燃油。以金钱来计算的话，马来西亚以每桶美金130售出2桶原油（美金260；或者相当于马币858）便以每桶美金134的价格买回燃油。那么，每一个这种的交易，大马都会赚取美金126，或者马币416。
So where this extra USD 126/barrel income is channeled to by Malaysian Govt???????? 如此说来，那超出来的126美金跑哪去了？
Another analysis:另外一个分析
>>> 1 barrel crude oil = 159 liters. 1桶原油 = 159公升
>>> 46-47% of a barrel of crude oil = fuel that we use in our vehicles. 46-47%的原油 = 我们所用的燃油
>>> 46% of 159 = 73.14 liters. 159公升的46% = 73.14公升
>>> @ RM 2.70/liter x 73.14 liter = RM197.48 of fuel per barrel of crude oil. 乘以每公升马币2.70，每一桶原油有价值马币197.48的燃油
This is only 46% of the barrel, mind you. Using RM 3.30 = USD 1, we get that a barrel of crude oil produces USD 59.84 worth of petrol fuel (46%
of 1 barrel). USD 59.84 of USD 130/barrel turns out to be 46% of a barrel as well. 这只是那一桶原油中的46%。假设以1美金兑3.3马币，一桶原油（197.48除以3.3）有价值59.84美金的燃油，而这个价格（对比每桶130美金）也相当于46%。
Another 54% = bitumen, kerosene, and natural gases and so many more. And this makes a balance of USD 70.16 that has not been accounted for. 剩余的54%包括了天然气、煤油、沥青及其他。而这些都是那美金70.16之中还未计算的部份。
So this is where I got curious. Where is the subsidy if we are paying 46% of the price of a barrel of crude oil when the production of petrol/barrel of crude oil is still only 46%? 这便是我觉得好奇的地方：如果说我们正在付出了那原油46%的价钱，那所谓的津贴跑哪去了？
In actual fact, we still pay for this as they are charged in the forms of fuel surcharge by airlines and road taxes for the building of road (because they use the tar/bitumen) and many more excuse charging us but let us just leave all that out of our calculations. 事实上，我们还在付与其他的费用，如航空公司的燃油费、路税（因为他们得用沥青来铺路），以及其他很多很多的理由（恕不在这里计算）。
As far as I know, only the politicians who live in Putrajaya and come for their Parliament meetings in Kuala Lumpur (approximately 60+ km) are the ones to gain as they claim their fuel and toll charges from the money of the RAKYAT's TAX. 据我所知，只有那些住在布城并得远赴在首都国会参加会议的政治人物（超过60公里的距离）才有收获（因为他们从人民税中索取汽油以及大道收费）。
It is so disappointing to see this happen time and time again to the Malaysian public, where they are deceived by the propaganda held by the
politicians and the controls they have over the press. 这是一件非常遗憾的事情，因为周而复始地看见政府不断欺骗人民并对媒体施以控制力。
Which stupid idiot economist equates rebates for rich or poor with the cc of the vehicles? An average office clerk may own a second hand 1300cc
proton Iswara costing $7,000 (rebate = $625) while the Datuk's children can own a fleet of 10 new cars of BMW, Audi and Volvo all less than
2000cc costing $2 millions and get a total rebate of $625 x 10 = $6,250! Wow what kind of economists we are keeping in Malaysia....wonder which phD certificate that they bought from... 有哪个白痴经济学家会以汽车的cc来评定、计算回扣率？一个普通的职员也许开着一台1300cc的二手国产花蝴蝶 （价值马币7千；回扣马币625）；而一个拿督的儿子可以拥有10台宝马、奥地和富豪，全都是2000cc以下但价值2百万，可以享有625x10=6250的回扣！！ 这里究竟养着什么样的经济学家？
Misleading concept of Subsidy: 关于津贴的误导性
The word "subsidy" has been brandished by the BN government as if it has so generously helped the rakyat and in doing so incurred losses. This simple example will help to explain the fallacy: “津贴”这个字眼已被国阵政府大事应用到让人感觉它的慷慨协助人民以及如何蚀食国库。这可以用下列的例子做一个很好的画面：
>>> Example: 例子
Ahmad is a fisherman. He sells a fish to you at $10 which is below the market value of $15. Let's assume that he caught the fish from the abundance of the sea at little or no cost. Ahmad claims that since the market value of the fish is $15 and he sold you the fish for $10, he had
subsidised you $5 and therefore made a loss of $5. 阿末是一位渔夫，他以低于市价的马币10令吉卖一条鱼给你。让我们来假设他以非常低/甚至于零成本从海洋（大自然）供应的鱼库捕获这条鱼，然后他说：“市价卖15，我卖10，我还亏5块钱啊！”
>>> Question : Did Ahmad actually make a profit of $10 or loss of $5 which he claimed is the subsidy?请问：阿末究竟是赚了10块钱还是亏了他作为津贴的5块钱？
>>> Answer:
Ahmad makes a profit of $10 which is the difference of the selling price ($10) minus the cost price ($0 since the fish was caught from the
abundance of the sea). There is no subsidy as claimed by Ahmad. 答案是：阿末（当然是）赚了10块钱。当中根本没有津贴！
The BN government claims that it is a subsidy because the oil is kept and treated as somebody else's property (you know who). By right, the oil
belongs to all citizens of the country and the government is a trustee for the citizens. So as in the above simple example, the BN government
cannot claim that it has subsidised the citizen! 国阵政府说这是津贴，那是因为那些油都被藏起来，而且被视作是某人的产业（你知道是谁）。照理来说，这些油是属于国民的，而政府不过是人民的委托人。如此说来，政府根本不能说这是在津贴人民！
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跟你借1339的连接贴去办公哪儿。
回复1343，人民有能做什么？要怎样抓？用什么证据来抓？可能知道了真相后会更加的失望。。例如：国库空了。。。 |
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回复 1335# 多麗絲 的帖子
＂果然打波都习惯这个色色的共同话题。
现在三个人了。*继续摇头ing。＂
不清楚你是否欣赏倪大作家，
据闻他本人也乐于此道，
至于我们这些凡夫俗子，哈哈......
期待 
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回 世人
借帖 - 请便。
津贴 - 大家就思考好了，说什么都没有用（大家人手一票最实际，不是么？）
回 豆
表酱随便照单全收，或者人云亦云（你啊，根本就是懒惰看、懒惰想，然后塞给我“你知道啦，我有文字恐惧症的咩！”）...不然把你撕了~ 吼！！！
回 欣仪
我还真未踏进过Breeks，好，找个机会去尝尝（死鬼，超高淀粉质的东西，要肥死我啊？）。
对了，你的介绍真的有效，两天，阿姨来了...
回 迪斯尼
嗯嗯，我好像只有最色的亚洲之鹰罗开系列没看。
其他的，包括原振侠系列，都有看。
呵呵~
好想全部重看，找回那种在科幻文字里面赞叹的感觉。
自己一个人静静看得入神，最爽了！
p/s: 欢迎你来，不好意思，文学楼那儿没给你回复。
[ 本帖最后由 多麗絲 于 12-6-2008 09:15 PM 编辑 ] |
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发表于 12-6-2008 08:51 PM
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我昨晚是吃饱了
wat同事请喝水
叫了Spa Sampler
酸酸的很好喝
还有果肉
马铃薯泥是“公司”吃的
p/s：这是超有效的阿姨配方，我介绍很多人，从来没有投诉过的 |
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发表于 13-6-2008 01:54 AM
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多丽，快点招一下喝茶聚会，难得我来。。。呵呵
我星期六离开哦。。。 |
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发表于 13-6-2008 12:16 PM
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回 欣仪
嗯嗯，跟阿佐说了。
他喜欢吃马铃薯泥...
回 阿九
我要招集谁？这效率好的，是小货车咧~(也好久没见到她了)
你又来北马探望客户兼找新客户了啊？
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发表于 13-6-2008 12:25 PM
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转贴
也许，每一个细节都在说话...
只差我们是否有养成聆听的习惯...
改变需要调节，适应需要时间，接受需要勇气。
决定在自己手里....... |
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发表于 13-6-2008 12:52 PM
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塔罗牌，我问了关于公司的事业，成果如下：
Seven of Wands
Briefly: You are now on your way to your destiny, to fulfil some mission that you know you have to do.
Full Reading: This card has a picture of a strong man, bearded and moustached on it and he is wielding a long wand and in front of him are six other wands. Each of these wands has a few green leaves on it symbolising fertility. He is a man of courage and strength. He has strong hands that are put to practical use. If you are this man then you are now on your way to your destiny, to fulfil some mission that you know you have to do. You are capable and wise. You are reaping the harvest and bringing home the bacon so to speak. You are not afraid of challenge nor hard work. You set your goals high and you always attempt to achieve them, despite whatever difficulties may get in your way. If you are not this person, then this type of man is going to enter your life and make a lot of changes to it. He is only there to help and to guide you. He will not push you anywhere you don't want to go, though will be available for advice and counselling where necessary. If you are a woman who has not yet had her first child, it is possible that a pregnancy is indicated by this card. The child may be conceived or born in winter. You will surmount all obstacles and achieve your dreams.
想要尝试的朋友，请按：塔罗解读 |
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发表于 13-6-2008 02:57 PM
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生日 vs 塔罗牌
Ten of Cups
This card shows a cup, held in a man’s hand, and joined by a woman’s hand, as they appear to be about to sip together from the liquid in the cup, as if sharing in a celebration of some wonderful event. There is a rainbow in the background and several tall, green trees, some shrubs, beside a river and with mountains in the far distance. The sky is blue and the day looks warm as in Springtime. There are 9 cups across the sky in front of the rainbow.
This card symbolises great happiness and contentment. Two people are brought together in unison and peace to share a special time in their lives. A joint project has obviously reached fruition and they are proud of their achievements and wish to celebrate in grand style. If you draw this card you may rest assured, that even though it took a long time to get where you are, it has all been worth the effort and the energy expended. You can relax in your new found comfort zone and pursue your other objectives with peace of mind, knowing that your life is now more secure than it has ever been.
想知道的人，请按：生日塔罗 |
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发表于 13-6-2008 03:13 PM
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ok , 我被拒絕了
沒有道理沒有解釋
發洩了一陣，才發現到學弟學妹一直在給我鼓勵。。。 |
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发表于 13-6-2008 03:14 PM
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原帖由 多麗絲 于 13-6-2008 12:16 PM 发表 
回 阿九
我要招集谁？这效率好的，是小货车咧~(也好久没见到她了)
你又来北马探望客户兼找新客户了啊？
哎哟，见你见啊佐也不错啊，沾染一下艺术气质也是好的，最近满身铜臭。。。唉。。
小货车不鸟我。。。 我这趟行程比较悠闲呢。。。怎样？ |
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发表于 13-6-2008 03:30 PM
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发表于 13-6-2008 03:34 PM
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回 ktin,
呃.......示爱？ （*快跑，不然被砍）
[fly]岂能尽如人意，但求无愧我心[/fly]
回 阿九,
演出刚过，不然你可以直接沾艺术的气息。
今晚有约........................(梭里)
请你以后表这么即兴咩！
况且根本没有准备要怎么去覆盖很大的可能性因为不知道要说什么而腾出来冷场....................... |
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发表于 13-6-2008 03:37 PM
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很肯定不是示愛。
我不會對電腦示愛。
不需要知道什麽。我又灌了100分。。
怪不得我第一個認識的版主+不認識的版主會去看我的blog
他們從來不這樣做的。。。。。。
一路以來只有我去跟別人的blog打招呼
[ 本帖最后由 ktin_268 于 13-6-2008 03:48 PM 编辑 ] |
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发表于 13-6-2008 04:24 PM
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原帖由 多麗絲 于 13-6-2008 03:34 PM 发表 
回 阿九,
演出刚过，不然你可以直接沾艺术的气息。今晚有约........................(梭里)
请你以后表这么即兴 ...
即兴好玩啊，呵呵，会让人更加有缘分的感觉。。。。
嗯？我是冷场处理机，所以不必担心。。。。 有机会再约咯。。。 |
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