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柔佛新山 “森林城市”计划突然喊停?

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发表于 4-4-2017 02:58 PM | 显示全部楼层
才子不才 发表于 3-4-2017 07:19 PM
中国国内的钱不能海外购房。以前走漏洞。现在严打香港刷卡,买保险和地下银行

你知道中国富豪在新加坡买得产业 ?
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发表于 4-4-2017 03:03 PM | 显示全部楼层

现在是你逃避现实,不是我。我的重点是中国人可以在海外购房。 而你说中国人不能在海外购房。 就是那么简单。
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发表于 4-4-2017 04:14 PM | 显示全部楼层
ktze 发表于 4-4-2017 03:03 PM
现在是你逃避现实,不是我。我的重点是中国人可以在海外购房。 而你说中国人不能在海外购房。 就是那么简单。

中国人不能换汇在海外购房,这是现实。之前的漏洞现在都被严禁了
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发表于 4-4-2017 05:36 PM | 显示全部楼层
请你看回去你之前自己写了什么,你说中国不让中国人在海外购房。你不要假假的转移话题和重点。
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发表于 4-4-2017 05:38 PM | 显示全部楼层
中国人不能换汇在海外购房, 和中国人在海外购房是两个不同的事情。你不要假厉害。中国确实是在控制也不让它国民换汇购房。
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发表于 5-4-2017 07:57 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 aidj 于 5-4-2017 08:23 AM 编辑

内幕!碧桂园森林城市所有中国售楼部关闭 事件背后隐藏惊人真相
2017-03-13 19:15

http://mt.sohu.com/business/d20170313/128731041_559100.shtml

百度  搜索不到 “愚人节“
明白了吗?为什么曝光72小时以上,本土最大中文媒体没报导或许是这个原因。




P。S。你们俩再吵,我就要抽广…(设计对白)
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发表于 5-4-2017 08:20 AM | 显示全部楼层
产业泡沫开始来临
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发表于 5-4-2017 08:21 AM | 显示全部楼层
ktze 发表于 4-4-2017 05:36 PM
请你看回去你之前自己写了什么,你说中国不让中国人在海外购房。你不要假假的转移话题和重点。

我不同意你的观点,但是我誓死捍卫你说话的权利。


大不了像我一样被封IP
[闲谈] 五年前开过一帖……出大事了!!!

P.S. 碧桂园 2013.8.8

  1. 在碧桂园森林城市的宣传中,被广泛提到的第二家园计划,其实跟买不买房没有关系,只要在当地定存一定金额就可以办理,
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发表于 5-4-2017 11:58 AM | 显示全部楼层
ktze 发表于 4-4-2017 05:36 PM
请你看回去你之前自己写了什么,你说中国不让中国人在海外购房。你不要假假的转移话题和重点。

Country Garden pledges refund for Forest City buyers caught in Beijing crackdown

HONG KONG: Country Garden Holdings, whose Forest City project in Malaysia is the biggest overseas project by a Chinese property developer, said it will refund money to mainland investors caught up in Beijing’s escalating crackdown on capital outflows.

The move is the latest consequence arising from Beijing’s tighter policy on capital controls, with most Chinese developers engaged in selling overseas properties now forced to shift their focus from mainland buyers to other countries.

“We have completely stopped our sales in [mainland] China,” Zhu Jianmin, vice-president of Country Garden, told the South China Morning Post last month in Hong Kong, referring to its flagship Malaysian housing project in Johor, which launched sales in 2015.

In March, the property giant closed all its Forest City sales centres on the mainland, a move first reported by the Post, after stricter government scrutiny on capital leaving China.



      
         


For buyers who made down payments on properties at Forest City but are no longer able to transfer the rest of the payment out of China, “they can cancel the transaction and there is no need to pay a forfeit fee”, Zhu said.

Zhu emphasised that the project always abided by the rules and regulations of both Malaysia and China and that only about 5 per cent of buyers were considering withdrawing their purchase.

Forest City, which covers 14 square kilometres of land on four artificial islands near the border of Singapore and Malaysia and is partly backed by the royal family of the state of Johor, has to date sold nearly 17,000 units for contracted sales of about 20 billion yuan (US$2.9 billion), mostly from mainland buyers.

Since the second half of last year, Beijing has continued to roll out tightening policies to stem the flow of money leaving its borders to prevent a large drop in its stockpile of foreign reserves triggered by the yuan’s devaluation.

This year, it implemented new barriers to stop individuals converting yuan into other currencies for overseas property purchases – a practice Beijing had turned a blind eye to in the past – dealing a big blow to developers like Country Garden and mainlanders who dreamed of a home overseas.

Country Garden chairman Yeung Kwok-keung, speaking in Hong Kong last month about the closure of its Forest City sales in China, said developers must follow the rules, otherwise the government would “give you a spanking”.

The crackdown has also got buyers like Vicky Wu very worried.

The 42-year-old white-collar employee from Zhuhai has been asking Country Garden for a refund of the 69,300 Malaysian ringgit (US$15,650) she paid as a 10 per cent deposit for a 59 sq metre flat at Forest City.

As a fresh measure, Country Garden has since this year required all mainland Chinese buyers to make payments in Hong Kong or Singapore, rather than on the mainland, to bypass Beijing’s capital controls.

“The salesman is chasing me for instalments but I’m hesitating,” Wu said. “I’m worried about being put on the government blacklist.”

Wu said there were more than 50 buyers in the WeChat group called “To quit Forest City and get refunds” who were waiting for refunds.

However, because Country Garden salespeople earn high commission for selling units, they may be reluctant to let buyers off the hook despite the official stance on refunds by higher management.

Iris Li, another buyer, has similar concerns. “I have a 400,000-yuan instalment due, which could exceed the limit allowed by the government, but the [Country Garden] salesperson asked me to bring several [credit] cards to complete the payment,” she said.

China only allows individuals to exchange up to US$50,000 worth of yuan into foreign currency annually.

“I feel this could violate the law at the height of the crackdown campaign, but every time I ask the salesman if this is illegal, she becomes silent,” Li said.

To close existing loopholes, UnionPay, China’s biggest interbank payments platform, last month barred mainland Chinese customers from using its transaction system in Hong Kong to pay for property, which puts buyers like Wu and Li in a deeper hole and casts a shadow over Country Garden’s efforts to collect money from its mainland buyers.

“It’s very difficult for individuals to get money outside now,” said Ben Briggs, executive vice-president of Briggs Freeman Sotheby’s International Realty based in Xiamen, China.

Briggs said Chinese demand for overseas property was still strong, given rising concerns over pollution, the yuan’s depreciation and sky-high home prices on the mainland.

In the past when the policy was looser, Country Garden accepted various kinds of domestic payment methods, such as swiping credit cards at its sales centres, bank transfers and even Alipay – a PayPal-like Chinese app – to transfer funds through a mobile wallet to the salesperson. The developer also partnered with Shenzhen financial services company Flying Financial to provide mortgages to its clients, although it is unclear how Country Garden sent the money collected domestically offshore.

It’s very difficult for individuals to get money out [of China] now

“It’s impossible for (Country Garden) to do this blatantly any more,” said David Hong, head of research at China Real Estate Information Corp.

Hong said the Chinese government had always prohibited direct individual investment in overseas property projects, but when enforcing the laws it could be lenient or strict. Once capital outflows slowed, the policy could be eased again, he said.

Capital outflows from China surged to a record US$725 billion last year, compared with US$676 billion in 2015, according to the Institute of International Finance. Much of that money found its way into the overseas property market.

China’s largest office developer, Soho China, said last month that it had to abandon the sale of a Shanghai property to a potential buyer as its plan to use the proceeds to fund an overseas investment became unfeasible under the government’s tougher outbound payment controls.

Almost US$75 billion worth of overseas Chinese investment deals were cancelled last year, a seven-fold increase in the US$10 billion in cancelled deals in 2015, according to the Financial Times.

While Chinese developers are still eyeing overseas expansion, mainland customers are no longer their first choice.

Guangzhou developer China Aoyuan Property Group, which has five residential projects in Sydney, Australia, and just bought a high-end residential project in Canada last month, said the developments would target local Chinese buyers and new immigrants.

Country Garden had also stepped up its strategy to promote Forest City to prospective buyers from Southeast Asia, Japan, South Korea, India, the Middle East, Europe and the US, the company said.

But some developers such as Dubai-based Falcon City of Wonders see it as business as usual, saying the foreign-exchange controls have not dented mainland investors’ interest in buying overseas properties.

“We target any investor who is interested,” said Salem Almoosa, chairman and general manager of Falcon City, a multi-purpose mega project in Dubai covering more than 41 million square feet and housing over 10,000 residential units, which is currently under construction.

“We don’t know how the Chinese will bring their investments to buy the properties,” Almoosa said. “But some of them are owners of businesses who should already have their assets abroad.” - SCMP
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发表于 5-4-2017 12:41 PM | 显示全部楼层
某国人骗这里人民太多钱了,所以这次我们坑回他们
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发表于 5-4-2017 01:25 PM | 显示全部楼层

卖点是大马深圳!
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发表于 5-4-2017 01:40 PM | 显示全部楼层

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发表于 5-4-2017 01:49 PM | 显示全部楼层
才子不才 发表于 5-4-2017 11:58 AM
Country Garden pledges refund for Forest City buyers caught in Beijing crackdown

HONG KONG: Country Garden Holdings, whose Forest City project in Malaysia is the biggest overseas project by a Ch ...

你又再逃避我的重点了,你这个人就只会百度和google.
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发表于 5-4-2017 01:52 PM | 显示全部楼层
才子不才 发表于 3-4-2017 07:05 PM
中国是不允许中国人在海外购房的。碧桂园之前走漏洞叫中国买家到香港刷卡供款,现在被禁止了。

重点是,你说(中国是不允许中国人在海外购房的。)
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发表于 5-4-2017 02:22 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
ktze 发表于 5-4-2017 01:49 PM
你又再逃避我的重点了,你这个人就只会百度和google.

你是在说我吗?

你才会发现信息是否真的被和谐掉?
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发表于 5-4-2017 02:39 PM | 显示全部楼层
aidj 发表于 5-4-2017 02:22 PM
你是在说我吗?  

你才会发现信息是否真的被和谐掉?

你千万不要放弃治疗。
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发表于 5-4-2017 02:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
ktze 发表于 5-4-2017 01:52 PM
重点是,你说(中国是不允许中国人在海外购房的。)

对。不然碧桂园为何退钱?

我看你理解能力有限
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发表于 5-4-2017 03:21 PM | 显示全部楼层
因为中国管制资本(黑钱)外流,就这么简单。没立法说不让中国公民在外国买房。 你确实不才。不会就屈心学习,不要假厉害。
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发表于 5-4-2017 03:45 PM | 显示全部楼层
才子不才 发表于 5-4-2017 02:48 PM
对。不然碧桂园为何退钱?

我看你理解能力有限

Ekoran dasar ketat China terhadap kawalan modal, jualan Forest City di China diberhentikan sepenuhnya. 希望你能理解。
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发表于 5-4-2017 03:59 PM | 显示全部楼层
ktze 发表于 5-4-2017 03:21 PM
因为中国管制资本(黑钱)外流,就这么简单。没立法说不让中国公民在外国买房。 你确实不才。不会就屈心学习,不要假厉害。

Hong said the Chinese government had always prohibited direct individual investment in overseas property projects, but when enforcing the laws it could be lenient or strict.
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