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......y i couldt c page 5...................... |
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发表于 26-3-2008 11:29 AM
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发表于 26-3-2008 11:30 AM
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发表于 26-3-2008 11:32 AM
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ok alr |
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发表于 26-3-2008 11:35 AM
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DLC is understood to be confident that it is will finally buy the club for RM2.6b.
are "is understood" and "to be confident" passive? |
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发表于 26-3-2008 11:44 AM
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the english FA will charge javier mascherano with improper conduct today after steve bennett's report
into Sunday's match btw Liverpool and Manchester United yesterday drew attention to the player's refusal
to leave the pitch having been sent off.
the situation is Javier mascherano conducted improperly when he was being sent off.
i don understand on this sentence that y it used "having" here?can u explain? |
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发表于 27-3-2008 12:35 AM
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Yes they are passive voice.
Passive form for
Present simple - is/am/are + past participle
Present continuous - is/am/are + being + past participle
Present perfect - has/have + been + past participle
Present perfect continuous - has/have + been + being + past participle.
Having been sent off , Javier Maschenaro has to leave the pitch.
is same as " Javier Maschenaro has to leave the pitch having been sent off. |
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发表于 27-3-2008 11:27 AM
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原帖由 hey_friends 于 26-3-2008 11:35 AM 发表 
DLC is understood to be confident that it is will finally buy the club for RM2.6b.
are "is understood" and "to be confident" passive?
so this meaning become "DLC 被明白，被有信心“。
it should be "DLC 明白and confident" meh?
understood and confident are adjective here,arent it ? |
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发表于 27-3-2008 08:19 PM
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原帖由 darksider 于 27-3-2008 00:35 发表
Having been sent off , Javier Maschenaro has to leave the pitch.
is same as " Javier Maschenaro has to leave the pitch having been sent off.
No...I don't agree with you...Both sentences carry different meaning. The latter is not even sensible.
To make the sentence simple, the sentence "Having been sent off , Javier Maschenaro has to leave the pitch."can be separated into:
Javier Maschenaro has been sent off.
Javier Maschenaro has to leave the pitch.
The event "Javier Maschenaro has been sent off." came first, then "Javier Maschenaro has to leave the pitch." can happen...
[ 本帖最后由 jinreung 于 27-3-2008 08:21 PM 编辑 ] |
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发表于 28-3-2008 10:34 AM
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原帖由 jinreung 于 27-3-2008 08:19 PM 发表 
No...I don't agree with you...Both sentences carry different meaning. The latter is not even sensible.
To make the sentence simple, the sentence "Having been sent off , Javier Maschenaro has to l ...
Perfect -ing form has already shown that the event " Sending off of Javier" happened before he had to leave.
Function of present perfect - to show completed action.
[ 本帖最后由 darksider 于 28-3-2008 04:18 PM 编辑 ] |
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发表于 28-3-2008 02:37 PM
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so which one is correct????? |
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发表于 28-3-2008 02:56 PM
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Javier Maschenaro has to leave the pitch having been sent off.\
having here is a gerund,not continuous tense,rite??? |
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发表于 28-3-2008 03:30 PM
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原帖由 jinreung 于 27-3-2008 08:19 PM 发表
No...I don't agree with you...Both sentences carry different meaning. The latter is not even sensible.
To make the sentence simple, the sentence "Having been sent off , Javier Maschenaro has to l ...
let me explain for it.
i taking this as an example:
Having done my assignment,i went to clubbing
it is same with "i went to clubbing having done my assignment" and "i went to clubbing when i had done my assignment".
also, we can separate it as
i went to clubbing.
i had done my assignment.
so "Having done" for this sentence here is a past perfect ( had done ).
darksider,am i right? |
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发表于 28-3-2008 04:22 PM
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原帖由 hey_friends 于 28-3-2008 03:30 PM 发表 
let me explain for it.
i taking this as an example:
Having done my assignment,i went to clubbing
it is same with "i went to clubbing having done my assignment" and "i went to clubbing whe ...
Perfect -ing forms
We can use a perfect -ing form to emphasise that one thing happens another :
I didn't remember having met her before.
Having finally grasped what I meant , he got down to work. (=focus on going down to work.)
He got down to work having finally grasped what I meant. (=focus on finally grasping what I meant.)
the more important one is usually the latter.It depends on what you want to emphasise. |
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发表于 28-3-2008 04:40 PM
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原帖由 hey_friends 于 28-3-2008 03:30 PM 发表 
let me explain for it.
i taking this as an example:
Having done my assignment,i went to clubbing
it is same with "i went to clubbing having done my assignment" and "i went to clubbing whe ...
so this one is correct o not?? |
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