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【红魔坊酒吧213】Don't ever mess with HMF :rf:
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发表于 16-2-2015 10:39 AM
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鸟叔第二赛季才不错。。。
我觉得该放眼2015-16，看看+2会买哪些球员
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发表于 16-2-2015 10:41 AM
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现在最有冠军相的是巴塞。。。MSN，Rakitic开始有默契
尤其是messi，稳定的可怕
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发表于 16-2-2015 10:49 AM
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The first thing we need to deal with – and put out of the way – is the long-ball question, because it is a red herring and utterly irrelevant to any conversation about Manchester United.
Sam Allardyce tried a few fun and games last week when he accused United of being a long-ball team but I was surprised that Louis van Gaal even responded by producing reams of charts at his press conference on Tuesday. All you are doing is legitimising what Allardyce is saying and looking like you need to justify yourself. Van Gaal didn't.
The problem with Manchester United – and the reason they are underperforming – is more subtle and tactical than that and it all flows from a critical flaw in the team: the lack of either pace or height in the strike force.
I’m not kidding you when I say that pace kills you as a central defender. If you had given me the choice as a central defender of being up against skills or a forward who can run like a whippet, I’d take the skills every day of the week. You can always use your technique to deal with them. But pace through the middle of the pitch? That does things to defenders. It makes you drop back three or four yards because that’s the kind of head start you want to give yourself. And when the defence drops three or four yards, the midfield does because no side wants a gap between those two lines. It’s a cardinal sin and it will lose you the game.
And here we get to the nub of it. No defence feels the need to drop those three or four important yards with the strike partnership Van Gaal has been settling on: Robin van Persie and Radamel Falcao. Both are very good strikers, but neither is going to stretch a defence with his pace and get in behind.
Both want to go short for the ball. Neither does that partnership provide the big man/small man combination that will also have defences worrying and playing deep. When there is a big target man in the partnership, central defenders will worry about him getting the knock-down for the smaller striker, who can get in behind. So back they go.
There are no such worries for the teams United have been up against. The centre-halves are following Van Persie and Falcao all the way out because they are not afraid of the second man in the partnership stretching them. The knock-on effect is that the midfield is able to play a high line, pressurising United’s midfielders and not allowing them the time to move the ball forward at pace. I’d say that 90 per cent of the time United pick up the ball in midfield their backs are to goal because someone is right up their arse – to describe it as we’d describe it when I was playing!
There has been a lot of talk about there being a lack of pace in this United team but you can’t tell me that players are going out lacking the intention or the instructions to do things at pace, the Manchester United way. Everything is about cause and effect in football. There is a reason why they are not shifting the ball quickly. It all stems from opponents not fearing that front line.
Robin van Persie, Wayne Rooney and Radamel Falcao Robin van Persie, Wayne Rooney and Radamel Falcao Liverpool were having the same problem earlier this season, too. We talked about it in this column. But Brendan Rodgers put Raheem Sterling, with his pace, up front, and now has Daniel Sturridge back. Defences are going back and allowing Liverpool that time and space.
So United need a different combination at the top of that team. Either James Wilson, their striker with pace, and Van Persie. Or Wilson with Wayne Rooney. Or Van Persie with Marouane Fellaini – creating that big man/little man combination I’ve mentioned, with Van Persie picking up the knock-downs. You only had to see the chaos Burnley caused United on Wednesday, with Danny Ings’ pace stretching the defence continually and – as United retreated to deal with it – Michael Kightly, Ashley Barnes and George Boyd having so much time on the ball in the space created.
There have already been hints of what the kind of changes I’m talking about can do. Watch United’s 3-0 win over Liverpool again and you’ll see the way the threat of Wilson’s pace forced Liverpool to play deep last December, even though he hardly had a touch early on. Fellaini’s arrival at Upton Park in an advanced role also forced West Ham deeper. These are the equations which explain United’s problems. A long-ball reputation is the last thing Van Gaal should be preoccupied about.
诸位同意吗？
我满赞同的。这家伙踢球时不是很成功，但是讲起球来到满不错的。
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发表于 16-2-2015 11:00 AM
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只能说+2看走眼，高估了曼联球员改造和适应的能力。
Pep 就比较厉害，跑去拜仁一意孤行自己那套，还是那么风生水起。
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发表于 16-2-2015 11:17 AM
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只要能够进军欧冠，球迷也没什么好吵了 
能够排第3是bonus，最后拿到足总杯的话是bonus中的bonus
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发表于 16-2-2015 11:18 AM
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发表于 16-2-2015 11:25 AM
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我蛮赞同的，现在球员真的懒惰跑动，速度不够快
速度快的一般上都是17-27岁之间
除非+2敢于抛弃那些27岁以上的高龄球员（rooney, carrick, RVP, Falcao, Young, Valencia），不然现状很难改善
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发表于 16-2-2015 11:25 AM
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说得很好，将军老虎配不应该再登场了，已经证明是失败的组合，两者特点太相似。
wilson/rooney 配 将军/老虎 应该才是更佳的选择。 
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发表于 16-2-2015 11:28 AM
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http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/31477919
Man Utd: Louis van Gaal confirms he wants to buy a midfield player
The Old Trafford boss has been criticised for playing striker Wayne Rooney in a deeper position and when asked if his priority was to sign a new midfielder he said: "Of course.""I am looking for balance and I need balance in midfield," he added.
"When I play with [Adnan] Januzaj and [Angel] Di Maria in the midfield positions, then you need a certain balance for that kind of creative player.
"So, when you have these creative players, and also [Radamel] Falcao and [Robin] van Persie are creative players, then you have four creative players and you have to look for balance in your team."
Van Gaal says Rooney, 29, who has not scored in nine games, has no problem with playing in midfield but admits his captain will be well aware of public opinion on his role.
"He is happy," said Van Gaal. "Otherwise, he should come to me and say: 'I am not happy', but he never does."He is always friendly to me and wants to perform what I want.
"That is what I see, but, when the whole world is writing that he has to be in the striker's position, he shall be thinking ' hey' as he is human." |
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发表于 16-2-2015 11:30 AM
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发表于 16-2-2015 11:32 AM
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发表于 16-2-2015 11:41 AM
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也不能说瓜叔厉害，但拜仁那班友仔的确是有能力走巴萨那一套，motherboard兼容
每一个球员的个人能力都不错，瓜叔也选好看准入主拜仁玩回自己那一套。
我就不相信如果当初他来曼联还能玩得风生水起，因为风格完全不一样，球员属性也不一样。
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发表于 16-2-2015 11:44 AM
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就是那么快才闲
可能太武断，不过这一两年应该还是C罗梅西垄断的啦，
接近3月了还是没看到“世界第3”的来挑战他们。
到5月看看谁拿欧冠和联赛冠军，应该就可以看得出一二。
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发表于 16-2-2015 11:51 AM
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我说的“厉害”，是指他厉害看，一眼看出曼联玩不了/马上玩不了他那套，反而可能砸了自己金字招牌，去拜仁就不会咯。
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发表于 16-2-2015 11:58 AM
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酱他就真的很厉害，金漆招牌擦得亮亮的。
如果他再走不懂还有哪一队可以踢他那一套。
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发表于 16-2-2015 12:45 PM
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这两位胜在够稳定。。。
我觉得Ronaldinho强过他们俩，不过2006过后就。。。
连Ronaldo都没有他们俩稳定（可能伤病影响。Messi CR几乎不受伤）
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发表于 16-2-2015 01:34 PM
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瓜叔用的都是+2留下种子。
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发表于 16-2-2015 01:48 PM
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如果+2能成功改造曼联，那么以后瓜叔是可能接手的。
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发表于 16-2-2015 02:00 PM
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不懂是文化关系，还是环境关系，巴西球员的纪律……实在令人敬畏。 
当pirlo lampard totti这些老姜依然在顶级球会效力的时候，小罗像个流浪汉酱全球流浪。
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发表于 16-2-2015 02:13 PM
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