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哎呀，我的身份被暴露了 
沒錯，我就是張曉卿
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forte 发表于 29-8-2017 04:20 PM
無知到哪4家競標檳城交通大藍圖的公司都不懂，誰得標誰落選也不知道，居然在這裡大放闕詞對檳城交通大藍圖指指點點？
哪家标到了? 拿出来参考。
当时中国贷款吗？
别pusing了。有资料就不必浪费大家的时间一直pusing
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发表于 29-8-2017 04:24 PM
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本帖最后由 forte 于 29-8-2017 04:25 PM 编辑
我教育小朋友的方法和一般華人一樣。
只教他們釣魚，不給他們魚。
對你我也一樣。
除非有人廢到不懂得用谷歌找答案。（那我會建議你去讀特殊兒童學校）
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forte 发表于 29-8-2017 04:21 PM
哎呀，我的身份被暴露了
沒錯，我就是張曉卿
你没那么本事。你只是个马仔。
肥肥的。我看过你。
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发表于 29-8-2017 04:32 PM
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本帖最后由 pulauturtle 于 29-8-2017 04:34 PM 编辑
看来楼上那位的确pusing多于讨论。
让我与大家分享一些Q&A关于槟城交通计划:
(以下言论来自于网上相关专业的人士的谈论)
1# Sounds like Penang government really pushing the LRT Project, but who is the project owner ? The direct under Penang government ? Prasarana Malaysia ? New entity company under Penang Gov or Federal(MOT/MOF) ?
Currently and obviously, Penang Government is the only project owner, unless Federal take his responsibility, step in and give back penangite's taxes, and work together with the state government.
2# Based on image uploaded, looks like train depot on middle of the sea. I mean, can Penang reclamation project completed ?? Currently hot situation on affected fisheries there.
No reclamation, no COPEX, no OPEX, no LRT, no monorail, no PTMP, no depot; unless Federal step in and take his responsibility, give back penangite's taxes and build it or even operate it~
I guess this project has to be friendly as possible. I mean in political side in order to get this project started.
Maybe we can learn how Azmin Ali and Najib Razak can hand to hand to kick start LRT3 project.
Actually Najib got no choice LOL, nowadays KL = Greater KL = Selangor(not whole la)~
KL itself is only 243 sq. km, it is even smaller than Penang Island 293
sq. km. XD
However the difference btw Azmin/Najib at KL and LGE/Najib at Penang is, Federal want to build the LRT/MRT at KL/Selangor so they approach Azmin/Selangor Government; but then Federal never want to build LRT/Monorail at Penang although they already promised several times since 10years ago XD... Penang Government applied from/presented/approached the Federal, SPAD or even Najib himself several times, SRS said they already presented PTMP/LRT to Najib, but he never say no or yes~
SRS already submitted all the documents to SPAD, but then all the sudden SPAD said they are working on the rail plan of whole northern region, hence Penang need to wait SPAD finish their rail plan until 2018 first~
I guess we need other entities such like Prasarana to do the project.
And I don't think Prasarana will own LRT Penang. Stakes just too high I guess with currently overseeing LRT3.
Penang State Government will fully own the LRT and Monorail in future, this is why the PTMP Financial Structure is base on Penang South Reclamation. Public auction the land piece by piece to build the LRT/Monorail for COPEX(refer to Singapore), and even JV with developer for the TOD on PSR and Rentals of Retails or Malls on PSR for OPEX.(Refer to HK and Japan)
-Penang State own the LRT/Monorail.
-Penang State open tender for the operator of LRT/Monorail.
-Penang State subsidies the OPEX of LRT from PSR development.
[ Well, LRT3 planned by SPAD around 2011, later Prasarana announced around 2013, only by this year, things get physically moving.
Long road indead. ]
KV: Plan by SPAD > Approve by SPAD > Implement by SPAD... all by SPAD and Federal themselves...
PTMP: Ask Federal or SPAD to plan > No Answer > Plan by Penang State > Submit to SPAD > Reject or new requirement from SPAD > Fix the plan by Penang State > Resubmit to SPAD > New idea from SPAD > hold the plan by SPAD> blablabla~
Even though SPAD is in the Penang Transport Council, but the way SPAD handle PTMP and KV is way too different. |
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pulauturtle 发表于 29-8-2017 04:32 PM
看来楼上那位的确pusing多于讨论。
让我与大家分享一些Q&A关于槟城交通计划:
(以下言论来自于网上相关专业的人士的谈论)
1# Sounds like Penang government really pushing the LRT Project, but who is th ...
每次因為性侵而落網的神棍也說自己是專業趕鬼驅魔的 |
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发表于 29-8-2017 05:54 PM
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各位,既然我们接下来必然面对联邦政府的刁难而被国政政治手段牺牲了我们槟城人的福利。
问题是,我们该如何面对日益严重的堵车? |
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州政府既然被国阵控制的联邦政府&非政府组织阻止建设LRT, 我们该怎么办? |
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為什麼無視我的問題，而在自說自話？
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forte 发表于 29-8-2017 06:03 PM
你不是有答案了嗎？（還是你只是c & p，沒有看內容？）
Maybe we can learn how Azmin Ali and Najib Razak can hand to hand to kick start LRT3 project. ...
可惜在这课题上,明显地联邦政府不但不负责任,而且还刻意刁难组绕。
你读了我quote的comment却不继续quote 他接下来说的一切,显然你这个人不求事实而段章取意
要不然就是你英语太差 |
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本帖最后由 forte 于 29-8-2017 11:43 PM 编辑
在批評別人語文不好之前, 是不是也應該看看自己的語文行不行呢?
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坐沙发，吃花生，看骂架  |
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发表于 30-8-2017 11:15 AM
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各位,经过中央打压及NGO与针对州政府的槟城人为帮凶,槟城将来会命运如何?
如果继续堵车而中央继续故意组绕,那么可以肯定的我们槟城千万个人民的生活起居必定越来越麻烦,花的不必要精神/时间/金钱会多。
我们槟城发展也必定到瓶颈,就让许子根时代被巫统掐着脖子,不给拨款,然后放马华抢民阵的地盘,巫统得鱼翁之利。
所影响的行业将是两个槟城的经济支柱:
工厂生产
服务业
工厂因堵车而物流运输不及时,工厂投资会渐渐对槟城失去信心,甚至撤资。
服务业。最大影响的服务业应该是旅游业及其周边行业。只要交通堵塞严重,游客的经历就打折扣,甚至打消念头到来。有的还会担心赶飞机/邮轮的时间。这是非常严重的问题。只要这被影响,周边的饮食业/酒店业/交通服务者等等都必定受遭殃。
不但如此,其实中央政府还有两个更狠的计划手段来打压槟城:
1) 把槟城的深水货柜港口迁移到吉打的Pulau Bunting。 这要感谢马华与巫统多年的计划。
2) 把槟城国际机场迁移到居林。计划已经谈得火热了。也是感谢马华与巫统。
这很明显的又是打击槟城的工业,旅游业。
槟城人,醒了吗？ |
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发表于 30-8-2017 11:17 AM
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这届投国阵，然后拿到LRT后再转投回火箭，这样可以吗？
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发表于 30-8-2017 11:18 AM
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vvti_84 发表于 30-8-2017 11:15 AM
之前不是大大声说要开始了咩？
没有spad的同意可以award的咩？
做么突然又不可以去的？
https://cforum1.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3724621
没有说可以。只是说让Gamuda来解决与中央approval的一块。毕竟Gamuda是与中央有群带关系的。也是win win(如一个支持国阵的粉丝说的,证明国阵只要槟城死)
完全事先说清楚了 |
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