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发表于 18-12-2010 10:41 PM
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我今天去了谷中城的教育展问了。
统考要有SPM国语C才可进入Foundation。
我弟是统考但没考SP ...
Shiro_7 发表于 18-12-2010 10:22 PM 
对啊,这样就麻烦了
不过,我觉得你弟最好去报考SPM的国语
方便以后成为执牌律师
那现在你只是要考量在哪里读degree罢了~
BAC external programme读3年
MMU读4年
一者肯定要报考CLP
一者有机会豁免CLP
期待你的回复哦 |
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发表于 23-12-2010 05:28 PM
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转帖:
来源:http://www.elawyer.com.my/blog/m ... pted-from-clp-exam/
i disagree with the post stated saying that atc & taylors should get the same exemption as the law students in Multimedia University. The answer is pretty simple. For your information, in ATC and Taylors College, the course structure is UK based & it is different. (3 years) The students do not learn Malaysian Law subjects and Malaysian based like in Multimedia University. Although Multimedia University is a private university, we cannot compare and make assumptions that their course structures are the same.. The law students in Multimedia University learned as how other Public universities as well ( uia, um, etc ) and the law course in Multimedia University is 4 years same as other universities either so logically, why would their students sit for CLP? They are going to learn the same whole thing anyway. What i have noted is that, as they are exempted from CLP, the students must achieve certain requirements to go for training after graduate and at the same time, they can do their chambering as well. Hence, the statement which stated that they are lowering the standards required to be a lawyer does not make sense. Besides that i have also heard that they won the moot competition at the international level in Hong Kong so, in my opinion, we shouldn’t make any irrelevant speculations just because they are new in the course. The students might be better than other law students in public universities perhaps. who knows.
I disagree with the statements given which point out the view that this exemption will caused flood to the legal world and that the students who got exempted might not be competent enough to practice. From the facts that I’ve received, the students need to complete a legal training after graduated which will be planned out by the Legal Profession Qualifying Board as to receive a certificate in order for them to practice. Upon receiving the certificate after finishing their legal training then only they can start practicing. I’m sure that after finishing the legal training which is conducted by the Legal Profession Qualifying Board themselves this will approved that they’re competent enough. There’s no question of they’re not competent enough as for those who failed to receive the certificate, they’ll not be allowed to practice. About the exemption given will caused flood to the legal world is a vague argument as it’s not the matter of quantity but the quality itself. If let say this exemption is not given to the MMU students, there’ll still be graduated students from the public universities as well. But we never questioned whether or not they’re flooding out the legal world as we comparing to the exemption given to those students from MMU. This exemption should be welcomed as the quality of those who graduated from MMU which allowed to practice will be controlled by the Legal Profession Qualifying Board. And furthermore, this exemption will be observed every 2 years by the Legal Profession Qualifying Board to make sure that the requirement is achieved by the students.
I agree with RIZZALORA. Future Lawyers at ATC, BRICKFIELDS, and so on the other colleges where the learned totally INTERNATIONAL LONDON STRUCTURES of LAW they shouldn’t be compared to the MMUans Future Lawyers because they learned totally MALAYSIAN LAW which is the same syllables as the other GOV Funded Universities such as IIU,,UM,,UKM..and UITM. The main Fucntion of CLP is that, to make sure the future lawyers graduated from LONDON BASED LAW who desired to be a qualified as MALAYSIAN lawyer not a LONDON lawyer so this CLP will make them WELL Equip with the MALAYSIAN BASED LAW. so what is the problem when it comes to the EXEMPTION of CLP towards MMUans future lawyers where they allready learned the Totally 100% MALAYSIAN LAW? we can Distinguish clearly the reason Y MMU are eligible for the EXEMPTION of CLP..
and on the point of this Exemption will downgrading the Quality of Lawyers in Malaysia? because of The MMU had not enough Experience in Teaching LAW as well as the Low Requirements?
Simple answer for that, LAW degree is the highest percentage of Dropouts in the world.. because its well known of its super difficulties.. so if there are INEPT lawyers from MMU? He or she is no longer consider as MMU’s students .. beacuse the one who stays.. is the one who can survive.. so if U came from a low result of SPM and STPM or even a related DIploma.. no matter what it takes U have to kick UR ass off to survive as a LAW students in MMU.. otherwise U will Be kick out.. so No point saying that MMU downgrading the Quality of Lawyers in the future..
and on the point of saying MMU is still young in teaching LAW therefore MMU not eligible to received CLP Exemption? Guys, How do evaluate ones Maturity on certain things? Some people on this planet even if they reach the age of 35years old.. they have yet to reach the Maturity level.. sometimes people who are only 18years old can think better than this 35years old citizen because this 18years old teens reach the maturity level earlier. what is this shows ? its shows U the level of exposer of someone can have.. MMU is an INTERNATIONAL UNIVERSITY.. MMU is not a COLLEGE.. MMU has enough FACILITIES to CATER their students that came from all over the world..
so the Evaluation does not only took place because of the Education itself.. The facilities.. Abilities and Capabilities also being calculated into account..so I hope that MMU will Be the BEST LAW SCHOOL not only NATIONALLY but INTERNATIONALLY as well … Thank you
Again. its about fairness, Flood, Lowering Standards of Lawyers in Malaysia, and so forth. Em..
LPQB Were very satisfied and very happy when they first came to MMU while evaluating the LAW students performance there. whether About their Education performances or Practice. Both Factors are well meet the demand that LPQB wants. so If.. ATC, BRICKFIELDS, and TAYLORS want to be Exempted from CLP too
because everyone seems to follow other people foot step so then, why don’t they try to invite LPQB to visit and evaluate them? em… one of the main and very3 important Requirements to recieve the exemption, it must be Malaysian Based Law. so Understood. if other Private University so suddenly wants to Build LAW school the same as MMU which is 4years and so called ” EASILY ” got exemption? why don’t they try to do so.. so we take look then what will happen next.. will they face the same EASILY get exempted.. if they not.. then understood how hard MMU work for that.. Why Lawyers must afraid of Flood?? its Competition.. if U think U R the best or good lawyer what do U afraid of? Employers will take a look for UR pointer rite? and UR involvements in, let say Debate : if U R the best debater or the best speaker in Malaysia or even in the world ( like MMU are now producing ) it won’t be a problem for U.. Spotlight will be more on U then. moreover if U won the International Mooting competiton or even National level.. that will be extra advantage.. if U can see UITM.. IIUM UM MMU UKM they are in the same lavel when it comes to National and International Debate Competition as well as Mooting Tournaments..
not just that , they also won a lot of best prizes.. so .. MMU is one of them.. most of them are LAW students who shines.. em… Clearly we can see Malaysian Based Law Performances from Public Uni are the same as MMU.. |
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its getting funny now. hehe We don’t even have to discuss the issue that doesn’t raise by the problem.
because its irrelevent. we need to understand the fundamental of the problem that occured at the first place.
Why MMU as Private university be given CLP exemption while other colleges not?
- 1. Agree with the above.
a) MMU is an INTERNATIONAL UNIVERSITY Level.
b) MMU is FULLY Malaysian Based Law.
c) MMU syllables are the same as IIU, UITM,UM,and UKM.
d) LPQB themselves satisfied and very happy with MMU future lawyers on their QUALITY of education
performance and practice.
e) MMU produce many BEST Speakers, Debaters , Mooters in Many International Tournaments n National too.
2nd level : Why other colleges such as ATC, BRICKFIELDS , TAYLORS and so on, they are not given the CLP
exemption?
a) They are not MALAYSIAN BASED LAW.
– Mostly External of London based law.
3rd level : How to get CLP exemption for ATC, BRICKFIELDS, TAYLORS and so on. ( because its unfair, that MMU
can why they can’t?
a) They need to change the Syllables to B Fully Malaysian Based Law as in UM, IIU, UKM, UITM n MMU.
4th level : if MMU can have it, it will leads to many other private LAW school to B like MMU and Downgrading or
Lowering the standards of Lawyer. because its too easy. it also will cause FLOOD. and bad to LAW
industry?
Answer : why Lowering and Downgrading Lawyer in Malaysia. MMU Syllables are the same as IIU, UM, UITM, and
UKM. meaning UKM UM UITM IIU and UITM they are lowering the standard too? just because the
stipulated requirements for LAW in MMU is a bit LOW then it will leads to Bad Lawyer?
requirments for ATC and Brickfield also not higher than MMU. If the students failed in doing their LAW
studies..because they came from really2 bad SPM or STPM or Diploma Result? then they will be That
college or that University dropouts. They will no longer be a Future Lawyer. No problem as bad Lawyer..
because they are not even eligible 2b one. All Law school contains of HUGE WORKLOADS and very
difficult LAW education. Espcially when MMU syllables are the same as other Public Uni, MMU has the
same level of HIGH STANDARDS OF MALAYSIAN LAW education.
The problem still arise when people keep questioning the Eligibility of MMU to recieved the Exemption. while it already being stated clearly, for many times its about FULLY MALAYSIAN BASED LAW. why so hard to understand?
very simple to distinguish.
The problem also still arise, on the idea of ” it will cause flood ‘??
why we have to be afraid of Flood?
This flood there are good future lawyer too. ( allready being explained on how it will be in the above )
Flood will leads to healthy competition..
healthy competition will leads to QUALITY and PRODUCTIVITY enhancement..
its a positive idea.. why afraid..? at the end of the day..
Malaysian LAW industry will be very competitive and superb.
whats the problem with that?
“do not reflect the mental dexterity/level of intellectual strength needed to read law”. Well, I do not think we should question the ability of students by their spm results. In my opinion, that is very unfair. Most students perform better in universities and it does not mean that if that is the qualification, it means the students who enter the law school are all low standards. And how sure are you Multimedia University’s law students will produce lousy ones? As far as i am concerned, what i have read in the newspaper is that they actually won the international mooting competition at the in Hong Kong. That is pretty impressive for new law school that produce good speakers. Even Malacca Bar Council have been supporting their law events for all this while and they will constantly check the standards of law students in that university. I do not think it will be a problem. To the law school of Multimedia University, prove that the students are very high in standards. After all, they already get the CLP. Congratulations to the Law school of Multimedia University. Keep up the good work and all the best to the law students, we support you! |
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发表于 25-12-2010 02:55 AM
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祝大家圣诞快乐~ |
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发表于 1-1-2011 12:41 AM
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祝大家新年快乐!2011年了~foundation学生距离大考剩14天 |
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我想问下如果在MMU读FOUNDATION(1YEAR)+DEGREE(4 YEARS)的学费大概会是多少?PTPTN 的最高贷额有能够到多少? |
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本帖最后由 jeremykkt 于 5-1-2011 08:56 PM 编辑
我想问下如果在MMU读FOUNDATION(1YEAR)+DEGREE(4 YEARS)的学费大概会是多少?PTPTN 的最高贷额有能够到多少 ...
1sTBlOoD 发表于 5-1-2011 07:47 PM 
首先先声明,以下学费数额以2010年生为准,会不会起我不能担保哦。
foundation RM12,000. PTPTN max loan RM8,000.
degree RM47,000. PTPTN full loan RM64,000 |
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发表于 11-1-2011 01:05 AM
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law students from or after 2009/10 在MUET的考试需要考到band4才能毕业,band3能上degree |
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售卖Foundation in Law, 3rd Sem 课本,请浏览售卖二手物品版页,有兴趣可联络我... |
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请问MMU law的毕业生需要考certificate in legal practice吗? |
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请问MMU law的毕业生需要考certificate in legal practice吗?
alicelau 发表于 25-6-2011 10:31 PM 
现阶段的学生还得等待bar来考察。 |
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大家好
没有错的话我会在今年6月intake,拿的是foundation in law
我想请问如果自己去mmu读的话住哪里最方便呢? |
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大家好
没有错的话我会在今年6月intake,拿的是foundation in law
我想请问如果自己去mmu读的话住哪里最 ...
ying7094 发表于 18-1-2012 03:53 PM 
ixora or EP吧,最靠近學校的宿舍。或者你要住學校宿舍也行 |
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回复 93# jeremykkt
噢给~谢谢~酱那个ptptn一定借得到吗? |
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回复 jeremykkt
噢给~谢谢~酱那个ptptn一定借得到吗?
ying7094 发表于 21-1-2012 11:30 PM 
通常都拿到的啦,只要你照著procedure做~ |
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回复 95# jeremykkt
okok~thanks a lot and happy lunar new year |
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发表于 21-3-2012 12:49 PM
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嗨!我又来了~
请问一下mmu法律系的学额是有限制的?
因为我刚刚拿到SPM成绩~成绩并不是很理想~
我只拿了6个A~高数和三科理科都没有A~不过国语和英文都A+~1119拿了1A~
这样的成绩有被录取的机会吗?请尽快回复,因为如果机会不大我就要另想出路了~谢谢 |
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嗨!我又来了~
请问一下mmu法律系的学额是有限制的?
因为我刚刚拿到SPM成绩~成绩并不是很理想~
我只拿了 ...
ying7094 发表于 21-3-2012 12:49 PM 
錄取機率很高!你語文科都拿A, 有六個A就行了~~~~~~~ |
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回复 98# jeremykkt
真的吗?那我就放心了~下个星期一就会去mmu报名了~ |
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原来这里也蛮热闹的 |
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