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把统治权回归苏丹吧

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发表于 27-9-2017 09:30 PM | 显示全部楼层
本质上皇室是站在民主的角度下。要是皇室被回教侵蚀,皇室也不复存在。
别看阿拉伯国王活的那么潇洒,也只不过是钱的力量而已。

在皇室的世界,其他一切称做“神”的都是他们的敌人。

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发表于 27-9-2017 09:49 PM | 显示全部楼层
snsv 发表于 27-9-2017 03:53 PM
现代的君主不象以往没受正规教育,现在的社会不是以前因没互联网而形同相对闭塞的社会,所以君主专制实际已不复存在。以马来这种不讲理态度,由君主一人无须考虑选票因素从上往下压就是对各族最公平的。你说不好, ...

陷入困境的 華人,請進回教,不要奢望 蘇丹 打救你們,你們配不上 蘇丹 的救贖
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发表于 27-9-2017 09:53 PM | 显示全部楼层
KLIP829 发表于 27-9-2017 05:00 PM
虽然说不是很認同你的王权统治想法,不过目前大马的民主真是被巫桶骑劫了,一党坐大导致政客假借民主之名为所欲为,实行了很多不公政策,一切都以选票为主要考量,其结果损害了非巫裔人民的福利和利益。
柔苏丹相 ...

制度的問題就從制度上解決,把 皇室 拉下水問題會更複雜


其實要解決 大馬 的政治問題很簡單的,行動黨 高層全部 masuk Islam 就可以了
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发表于 27-9-2017 10:00 PM | 显示全部楼层
探险家 发表于 27-9-2017 09:07 PM
最好是恢复以前的方式, 恢复皇室立法权, 不过如果某项立法三次统治者都不通过的话, 执政者可以对该立法举办全民公投, 如果全民通过的话, 统治者反对了也照样通过.....现在完全是Najib一个人说了算, 统治者和人民反对 ...

Jib Gor 再怎樣欠打,也是合法競選選上去的


歸根結底,馬來西亞 的政府有那麽大的問題,很大程度就是人民本身就有問題。我說的人民不只是那些投 囯陣 的人,反對黨支持者也很有問題。如果反對黨支持者那麽正確,爲什麽沒有辦法説服 囯陣支持者 轉投反對黨?
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发表于 27-9-2017 11:02 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
followme123 发表于 27-9-2017 09:53 PM
制度的問題就從制度上解決,把 皇室 拉下水問題會更複雜


其實要解決 大馬 的政治問題很簡單的,行動黨 高層全部 masuk Islam 就可以了

第一个 Point 認同。
第二个論点有些儿戏,宗教原本就是个人选择的自由,民主体制的一环,强制性或以利益依据而加入并不能解决问题。
更何况此教限制条约过多,和现代社会脱轨,也不能为国家政策,人民带来什么好处。
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发表于 27-9-2017 11:21 PM | 显示全部楼层
那个苏丹已经强暴了马来人的人权 你华人也准备被他继续剥削吧 拜王的嗨 等他掌握大权后 就等着他安排一群人折磨死你们这些异教土 然后他又出来当圣人 封王的鱼类继续永世地被愚化 子子孙孙永世地被洗脑
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snsv 发表于 27-9-2017 03:53 PM
现代的君主不象以往没受正规教育,现在的社会不是以前因没互联网而形同相对闭塞的社会,所以君主专制实际已不复存在。以马来这种不讲理态度,由君主一人无须考虑选票因素从上往下压就是对各族最公平的。你说不好, ...

大马现在状况的却如你所说,需要一个君主来施压,因为政府,司法,警察已经变质,利益为主,道义无存
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发表于 27-9-2017 11:36 PM | 显示全部楼层
不要店关。。。关人。。。
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发表于 28-9-2017 12:26 AM | 显示全部楼层
可是还是很多马来人支持洗衣店老板的做法
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发表于 28-9-2017 02:13 AM | 显示全部楼层
kmrddecade 发表于 27-9-2017 11:41 AM
直接写不可以放进有狗毛的衣服,这个华人也会支持咯,因为只是卫生的问题罢了

我養喵的,可以拿衣服去洗嗎?
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发表于 28-9-2017 04:46 AM | 显示全部楼层
followme123 发表于 27-9-2017 09:53 PM
制度的問題就從制度上解決,把 皇室 拉下水問題會更複雜


其實要解決 大馬 的政治問題很簡單的,行動黨 高層全部 masuk Islam 就可以了

Islam洗脑了千多年, 不要认为有可能在现代的我国能得到改变, 任何尝试的人都会被冠上叛教的恶名, 然后被拉下台.....

因此, 除非战争歼灭, 不然就只有靠制衡, 我国的统治者不可能不怕发生在伊朗的事会发生在他们自己身上, 更何况是完全失去立法权的情况.....

恢复皇室立法权只是变回原本的宪法, 老马当初应该只消除赦免权就好.....


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任何一個國家的穆斯林人口在1%左右時,他們會被視為一個愛好和平、不對任何人構成
威脅的少數群體。事實上,可能會有文章和電影描繪他們的多彩的獨特性:

美國-穆斯林1.0%
澳大利亞-穆斯林1.5%
加拿大-穆斯林1.9%
中國-穆斯林1%-2%
意大利-穆斯林1.5%
挪威-穆斯林1.8%

當有2%和3%時,他們開始向其他少數族裔和那些對社會不滿的群體傳教,大量從監獄和
街頭幫派招募:

丹麥-穆斯林2%
德國-穆斯林3.7%
英國-穆斯林2.7%
西班牙-穆斯林4%
泰國-穆斯林4.6%

當他們的人口比例有5%以上時,他們所行使的影響會過於他們在人口中的比例。

他們會推動引進Halal(伊斯蘭標準的清真)食品,從而確保穆斯林在製作食品方面有工
作。他們會對連鎖超市增加壓力,要求他們的貨架上有清真食品-對不遵從者會發出威脅


法國-穆斯林8%
菲律賓-穆斯林5%
瑞典-穆斯林5%
瑞士-穆斯林4.3%
荷蘭-穆斯林5.5%
千里達及多巴哥-穆斯林5.8%

在這時,他們會努力促使政府讓他們根據伊斯蘭教法統治他們自己。伊斯蘭的最終目標不
是使全世界皈依,而是在整個世界建立伊斯蘭教法統治。

穆斯林的人口達到10%時,他們會增加一些無法無天的手段(巴黎-燒毀汽車),作為對
他們所身處的環境的申訴。任何非穆斯林冒犯伊斯蘭的行動會導致抗爭和威脅(阿姆斯特
丹-穆罕默德漫畫)。

圭亞那-穆斯林10%
印度-穆斯林13.4%
以色列-穆斯林16%
肯尼亞-穆斯林10%
俄羅斯-穆斯林10-15%

在達到20%之後,可以預料會有一觸即發的暴動、聖戰武裝分子組織的建立、零星的殺戮
、並教會和猶太教堂被焚燒:

埃塞俄比亞-穆斯林32.8%

到40%時,會出現廣泛的屠殺、偶發的恐怖襲擊、和持續的武裝衝突:

波斯尼亞-穆斯林40%
乍得-穆斯林53.1%
黎巴嫩-穆斯林59.7%

到60%時,對非信徒和其他宗教可能有各種迫害、零星的清洗,使用伊斯蘭教法作為一種
武器,和採納Jizya-加之於異教徒的稅:

阿爾巴尼亞-穆斯林70%
馬來西亞-穆斯林60.4%
卡塔爾-穆斯林77.5%
蘇丹-穆斯林70%

達到80%之後,預計有國家掌控的清洗和屠殺:

孟加拉-穆斯林83%
埃及-穆斯林90%
加沙-穆斯林98.7%
印尼-穆斯林86.1%
伊朗-穆斯林98%
伊拉克-穆斯林97%
約旦-穆斯林92%
摩洛哥-穆斯林98.7%
巴基斯坦-穆斯林97%
巴勒斯坦-穆斯林99%
敘利亞-穆斯林90%
塔吉克斯坦-穆斯林90%
土耳其-穆斯林99.8%
阿拉伯聯合大公國-穆斯林96%

100%就會迎來達累斯˙薩拉姆-伊斯蘭和平之家-應該是和平的,因為每個人都是穆斯
林:

阿富汗-穆斯林100%
沙特阿拉伯-穆斯林100%
索馬里-穆斯林100%
葉門-穆斯林99.9%

當然,這並非如此。為了滿足他們的嗜血的慾望,穆斯林然後為著各種原因開始互相殘殺。



The truth about Muslims.

The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Musiims
The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims'

Think of it:

Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem
Christians living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem

Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
Muslims living with Christians = Problem
Muslims living with Jews = Problem
Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem
Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM

**********SO THIS LEAD TO *****************
They’re not happy in Gaza
They're not happy in Egypt
They're not happy in Libya
They're not happy in Morocco
They're not happy in Iran
They're not happy in Iraq
They're not happy in Yemen
They're not happy in Afghanistan
They're not happy in Pakistan
They're not happy in Syria
They're not happy in Lebanon
They're not happy in Nigeria
They're not happy in Kenya
They're not happy in Sudan

******** So, where are they happy? **********
They're happy in Australia
They're happy in England
They're happy in Belgium
They're happy in France
They're happy in Italy
They're happy in Germany
They're happy in Sweden
They're happy in the USA & Canada
They're happy in Norway & India
They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic! And who do they blame? Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves... THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!! And they want to change the countries they're happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy and finally they will be get hammered
!!!!

Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
ISIS: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
AND A LOT MORE!!!!!!!

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发表于 28-9-2017 05:11 AM | 显示全部楼层
KLIP829 发表于 27-9-2017 11:02 PM
第一个 Point 認同。
第二个論点有些儿戏,宗教原本就是个人选择的自由,民主体制的一环,强制性或以利益依据而加入并不能解决问题。
更何况此教限制条约过多,和现代社会脱轨,也不能为国家政策,人民带来什么 ...

不進回教,fine。我們知道 囯陣強區 的 馬來人 不投 反對黨聯盟 很大原因就是因爲 行動黨 這个 kafir 政黨的存在。如果要實現變天,那就把 行動黨 解散掉,併入 公正黨
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探险家 发表于 28-9-2017 04:46 AM
Islam洗脑了千多年, 不要认为有可能在现代的我国能得到改变, 任何尝试的人都会被冠上叛教的恶名, 然后被拉下台.....

因此, 除非战争歼灭, 不然就只有靠制衡, 我国的统治者不可能不怕发生在伊朗的事会发生在他们 ...

稀聯 lagi 制止不了 馬來西亞 的 回教極端化,只有 30% 華人進回教才能制止 回教極端化
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followme123 发表于 28-9-2017 05:16 AM
稀聯 lagi 制止不了 馬來西亞 的 回教極端化,只有 30% 華人進回教才能制止 回教極端化

最后只会变成马来穆斯林和华人穆斯林的内战......

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探险家 发表于 28-9-2017 05:21 AM
最后只会变成马来穆斯林和华人穆斯林的内战......

UMNO 内部一直都有不同種族的穆斯林在内斗,比如 土耳其穆斯林 (Hishammuddin)、mamak穆斯林 (Mahathir)、華人穆斯林(Abdullah Badawi)等等
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发表于 28-9-2017 06:23 AM | 显示全部楼层
你会像wong ah fook一样把你妹送去王宫当妃子吗
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followme123 发表于 28-9-2017 05:45 AM
UMNO 内部一直都有不同種族的穆斯林在内斗,比如 土耳其穆斯林 (Hishammuddin)、mamak穆斯林 (Mahathir)、華人穆斯林(Abdullah Badawi)等等

The truth about Muslims.

The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Musiims
The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims'

Think of it:

Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem
Christians living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem

Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
Muslims living with Christians = Problem
Muslims living with Jews = Problem
Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem
Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM

**********SO THIS LEAD TO *****************
They’re not happy in Gaza
They're not happy in Egypt
They're not happy in Libya
They're not happy in Morocco
They're not happy in Iran
They're not happy in Iraq
They're not happy in Yemen
They're not happy in Afghanistan
They're not happy in Pakistan
They're not happy in Syria
They're not happy in Lebanon
They're not happy in Nigeria
They're not happy in Kenya
They're not happy in Sudan

******** So, where are they happy? **********
They're happy in Australia
They're happy in England
They're happy in Belgium
They're happy in France
They're happy in Italy
They're happy in Germany
They're happy in Sweden
They're happy in the USA & Canada
They're happy in Norway & India
They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic! And who do they blame? Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves... THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!! And they want to change the countries they're happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy and finally they will be get hammered
!!!!

Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
ISIS: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
AND A LOT MORE!!!!!!!

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发表于 28-9-2017 07:12 AM | 显示全部楼层
Cinabaku 发表于 28-9-2017 06:23 AM
你会像wong ah fook一样把你妹送去王宫当妃子吗

黃阿嬌 是皇后,麻坡 別名 香妃城 就是用來紀念她的


柔佛皇室、黃氏家族 還有 郭鶴年 的 郭氏家族 是有千絲萬縷的聯姻關係的,所以 新山 的情形跟其他地方有所不同




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发表于 28-9-2017 07:29 AM | 显示全部楼层
pupuman 发表于 27-9-2017 11:21 PM
大马现在状况的却如你所说,需要一个君主来施压,因为政府,司法,警察已经变质,利益为主,道义无存

政治問題就用政治手段去解決,如果 皇室成員(除了 蘇丹 和太子) 想參與政治,他們是可以競選的,如果有足夠的選民投票給他們當選,他們就可以在議會上替人民爭取權益


大馬 有很多案件都成立了 皇家調查委員會 來調查,最後都是不了了之,因爲 皇權 本來就是虛設的,想靠 皇權 來壓制 相權 是不切實際,也不合理的


那麽討厭 囯陣 和 Jib Gor,就用競選解決掉他們,整天搞 Bersih 沒有淋用的
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 楼主| 发表于 28-9-2017 08:07 AM | 显示全部楼层
肥仔聪 发表于 27-9-2017 08:27 PM
只有一个王的话确实可以参考,但现在问题是不止一个王。。

9个王推举一个轮任大王,建起一个由王选拔人才的治国系统,任何方针由9个王讨论可行方法后交回給轮任大王,由后者颁布后交给治国系统执行。比现在烂中选烂强上好多。人民也不必为选谁而闹个不可开交,在政客的谎言中打滚。9个王向来都是统治家族,治国是他们的强项,只是被废了武功而已。
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