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 楼主| 发表于 10-7-2013 08:33 PM | 显示全部楼层
F-18也不错的
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发表于 10-7-2013 08:35 PM | 显示全部楼层
waja2000 发表于 10-7-2013 08:17 PM
消息真是高兴Rafale....gogogo ...


某些不实的军事消息,看完笑笑就好
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发表于 10-7-2013 08:41 PM | 显示全部楼层
waja2000 发表于 10-7-2013 08:33 PM
F-18也不错的


不是Rafale最新的消息已经go go go了吗?怎么又F18了?
可见你也知道阵风不行。。。

要知道阵风搞的绿色纤维合成材料是没有意义的,因为这是给Business Jet用的。
去年Rafale也跟Italy签过同样的东西,Italy有买Rafale吗?


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发表于 11-7-2013 12:10 PM | 显示全部楼层
waja2000 发表于 9-7-2013 12:04 AM
只是法国媒体报道,别太认真..看看就好

France hopes to sell the Rafale to Malaysia

只是英国媒体报道,别太认真..看看就好

New Eurofighter chief aims to make jet cheaper
(Reuters) - The new chief of the Eurofighter Typhoon will lay out plans by the end of this year to make the fighter jet cheaper and decision-making quicker, as the aircraft gears up to vie for more business in an increasingly crowded and competitive market.
Alberto Gutierrez, the former head of operations at EADS (EAD.PA) unit Airbus Military who became Eurofighter's chief executive in April, said the goal was to win at least 25 percent of 1,000 potential aircraft sales in the global market.
"In this market, where we are, there is competition and we have to keep on going, finding out whatever improvement is available to catch up, to make the product cheaper and a way of getting into decisions leaner and faster," he said at the Paris Airshow on Wednesday.
He said he intended to lay out the plans by the end of the year but declined to specify figures on how much cheaper the product could become.
One option to make decision-making leaner could be to restructure the way Eurofighter export campaigns are waged by giving them a "single face," he said.
The multi-role Eurofighter combat jet is made by Britain's BAE Systems (BAES.L) and Italian weapons maker Finmeccanica (SIFI.MI), and EADS, representative of Germany and Spain, with each taking responsibility for particular campaigns. EADS's Cassidian arm, for instance, is leading its proposal in South Korea.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/19/us-air-show-eurofighter-idUSBRE95I1DQ20130619
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发表于 11-7-2013 06:08 PM | 显示全部楼层
detectivebinbin 发表于 18-6-2013 03:58 PM
這麼看來大馬未來不知是否會仿效印度空軍Su-30MKI + EMB-145 AEW&C + MMRCA而採購同樣機種的空中預警機和MR ...

有假的试。。。

MALAYSIAN HIGH FLYERS VISIT WARTON
THURSDAY 11 JULY 2013

A group of post-graduate Malaysian students from our sponsored Chevening Scholarship Programme recently paid a visit to our Warton site.

Building relationships

The aim of the visit was to build relationships with the group, who are currently studying in the UK, and to promote our products and capabilities, especially Typhoon, which we are promoting as the best solution to meet Malaysia’s requirement for a new multi-role combat aircraft.

Flying Typhoon

After meeting with senior representatives, the visitors were given a tour of the Typhoon final assembly facilities and had the chance to fly Typhoon in the flight simulation rig.

Chevening Scholarship Programme

Andy Lavin, Programme Director Malaysia said: “The Chevening BAE Systems Scholarship programme is an established, highly prestigious programme for potential future leaders and our sponsorship will enable more Malaysian students to take advantage of this exciting opportunity.”

Mind-blowing

Suet Mei Kong, who is studying for her masters in Competition Law at Kings College London, said: “Our time in Warton was absolutely mind-blowing. It was such a privilege to visit the Typhoon Final Assembly Hangar and to be able to have a go at the Eurofighter Active Cockpit Simulator - definitely at the top of my best and most memorable moments as a Chevening BAE Systems Scholar. Having to deal with seven girls around aircraft could not have been very easy, but our host answered the many questions and explained patiently. The visit and the presentations have been immensely informative and insightful, I am so grateful for this rare opportunity. Thank you BAE Systems for being the most gracious host, and for the memories which will last a lifetime.”

Once in a lifetime opportunity

Fellow student Nurulhuda Zakariya, who is studying for her masters in Law at Queen Mary London, added: “The Warton experience was mind blowing. Though with a legal background, I’m always interested in the mechanics of things in general. Having the chance to see the Typhoon production line and the technological development of the products manufactured by BAE Systems – is a once in a lifetime opportunity that I am very sure I would not have been able to acquire if I was not a Chevening BAE Systems scholar. Anyone can come and study here in the UK, but the privileges given on this programme are priceless.”

Culture of lifelong learning

Sponsorship of the BAE Systems Malaysian Chevening Scholarship programme is an important step in developing BAE Systems education programme in Malaysia and aligns perfectly with our approach to education globally, where we have a culture of lifelong learning. In addition, the BAE Systems Malaysia Chevening Scholarships aligns with Malaysia’s Vision 2020 and supports the country’s aspirations to develop leaders to grow and develop the economy through the Economic Transformation Programme.

Sponsorship

This is the first year that we as a Company have been involved in this prestigious programme. During 2012 we have sponsored seven students to study engineering and science in the United Kingdom, a further 14 will be sponsored in 2013. The scholarships are managed by the Foreign & Commonwealth Office in Malaysia who select the students through a competitive process.




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发表于 11-7-2013 06:51 PM | 显示全部楼层
waja2000 发表于 10-7-2013 08:33 PM
F-18也不错的

底下那個是新款的副油箱嗎?設計不錯咧~
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发表于 11-7-2013 07:26 PM | 显示全部楼层
detectivebinbin 发表于 11-7-2013 06:51 PM
底下那個是新款的副油箱嗎?設計不錯咧~

non-functional conformal fuel tanks (CFT)容量是538加伦

http://www.thebaynet.com/news/index.cfm/fa/viewstory/story_ID/32377

F-18F apart from the airplanes already at Pax will be the non-functional conformal fuel tanks (CFT), an Enclosed Weapons Pod (EWP) and a mock-up of an internally-mounted infrared search and track system mounted along with a slew of radar cross-section enhancement measures.

According to Boeing officials, the Super Hornet will be at Pax to test the aerodynamic qualities of those representative shapes. They noted “the CFTs won't add any cruise drag at high subsonic speeds, but it will have a negative impact on drag at transonic speeds--but the company has done a lot of engineering work to try mitigating that.”

Moreover, they went on to say that, “at low airspeeds, sometimes overall drag with the CFTs is actually lower than a clean aircraft.” They also added, “configured with the CFTs and EWPs carrying 4 AMRAAMs, the jet performs roughly the same as a Super Hornet carrying 4 external AIM-120s.

The CFTs will add an additional 3500 lbs, or about 538 gallons, of fuel and the EWP can carry up to four AMRAAM sized weapons, six Small Diameter Bomb sized weapons and two AMRAAM sized weapons, and several air to surface weapons up to the 2000lb class.

Boeing officials say the Conformal Fuel Tanks and the Enclosed Weapons Pods can be added as post-production retrofits or to new Super Hornets.  However, should “the Navy decide to retrofit some of its existing Super Hornets with the CFTs and EWPs, a modification line could be set up at a Boeing facility, a USN depot or at a USN Air Station.”

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发表于 11-7-2013 07:35 PM | 显示全部楼层
Boilwater 发表于 11-7-2013 07:26 PM
non-functional conformal fuel tanks (CFT)容量是538加伦

哦,538加侖~

super-hornet.jpg

之前的那款(上圖)是480加侖~有點小增幅……
ELEC_IRST_Tank_Cutaway_LMCO_lg.jpg
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 楼主| 发表于 11-7-2013 11:59 PM | 显示全部楼层
detectivebinbin 发表于 11-7-2013 06:51 PM
底下那個是新款的副油箱嗎?設計不錯咧~

底下是武器仓,导弹和各种炸弹都放在里面,目的都是提高隐形效果,






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发表于 12-7-2013 08:00 AM | 显示全部楼层
waja2000 发表于 11-7-2013 11:59 PM
底下是武器仓,导弹和各种炸弹都放在里面,目的都是提高隐形效果,

啊哈哈哈哈哈~原來是武器艙而不是副油箱……
除了機腹底下,機翼最裡面的兩個掛點可以吊掛嗎?
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 楼主| 发表于 12-7-2013 09:36 AM | 显示全部楼层
detectivebinbin 发表于 12-7-2013 08:00 AM
啊哈哈哈哈哈~原來是武器艙而不是副油箱……
除了機腹底下,機翼最裡面的兩個掛點可以吊掛 ...

应该可以挂吧,就像现在的F-18 SuperHornet....武器舱只是新设计出来
听说F-18 silent hornet(block3)科技水准已经是F-35的80%, 除了隐形不能比。
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发表于 12-7-2013 10:52 AM | 显示全部楼层
waja2000 发表于 12-7-2013 09:36 AM
应该可以挂吧,就像现在的F-18 SuperHornet....武器舱只是新设计出来
听说F-18 silent hornet(block3) ...


如果是这样买F-35的不就全都是水鱼?
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发表于 12-7-2013 02:17 PM | 显示全部楼层
Boilwater 发表于 12-7-2013 10:52 AM
如果是这样买F-35的不就全都是hh

不能這樣說~Super Hornet甚至Silent Hornet基本上都算是F/A-18系列的終極版了,要再進一步大幅改良已經很難了……反而現在的F-35還只是入門版的,以後的升級改良空間可大呢!
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发表于 12-7-2013 02:21 PM | 显示全部楼层
detectivebinbin 发表于 12-7-2013 02:17 PM
不能這樣說~Super Hornet甚至Silent Hornet基本上都算是F/A-18系列的終極版了,要再進一步大幅改良已經很 ...


也对,但是F-35差不多被加拿大放弃了,土耳其也推迟了
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发表于 12-7-2013 02:32 PM | 显示全部楼层
Boilwater 发表于 12-7-2013 02:21 PM
也对,但是F-35差不多被加拿大放弃了,土耳其也推迟了

雖然國外訂單不是一帆風順,但美國本土的最大訂單還在,還是有望大量生產的。過多幾年產品穩定下來後,相信還是會獲得多國青睞的~
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发表于 12-7-2013 02:39 PM | 显示全部楼层
detectivebinbin 发表于 12-7-2013 02:32 PM
雖然國外訂單不是一帆風順,但美國本土的最大訂單還在,還是有望大量生產的。過多幾年產品穩定下來後,相 ...


是的,新国已经在国会提起要买了~~
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 楼主| 发表于 24-7-2013 01:48 AM | 显示全部楼层
法国的新闻,原文是法文,用google翻译了,大概明白意思就好了....

法国总统下星期来大马访问详谈阵风和核能发电 ....

INDUSTRY - SERVICES   INDUSTRY   NEWS
France: Rafale and nuclear Ayrault speak in Malaysia
22/07 | 14:11
The possible purchase of Rafale fighter jets and nuclear power will be on the menu for the visit of the French Prime Minister in Malaysia next Monday, officials said around him.
Jean-Marc Ayrault goes next Monday on an official visit to Malaysia, during a tour that will also visit South Korea and New Caledonia.
Malaysia is the fifth partner of France in Asia - after China, Japan, Singapore and South Korea. France is the leading provider of country's defense.
Malaysia has identified five manufacturers, including Dassault for the purchase of 18 fighter jets scheduled in 2015 to replace its aging MiG-29s.
"There is interest in Malaysia for the Rafale, France is one of the choices," was recalled in the entourage of Jean-Marc Ayrault.
The Rafale of the French manufacturer will compete with the Eurofighter Typhoon consortium formed by the United Kingdom, Germany and Italy, the Swedish Saab Gripen, the F / A 18E / F Super Hornet of Boeing and Su -30 Russian Sukhoi.
Malaysia has also expressed its interest in nuclear power, which does not use at the moment, as part of an overall plan to diversify its energy sources.

http://www.lesechos.fr/entrepris ... malaisie-588429.php 本帖最后由 waja2000 于 24-7-2013 01:51 AM 编辑

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 楼主| 发表于 24-7-2013 01:50 AM | 显示全部楼层


效果不错
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发表于 24-7-2013 11:44 AM | 显示全部楼层
waja2000 发表于 24-7-2013 01:48 AM
法国的新闻,原文是法文,用google翻译了,大概明白意思就好了....

法国总统下星期来大马访问详谈阵风和 ...


无底洞和辐射!
你还没有回答阵风的AESA升级费问题,高失事率 和 后勤超贵的问题呢。。。

法国发生核泄漏事故 6名工作人员与专家受到辐射
http://www.china.com.cn/international/txt/2010-05/28/content_20141842.htm

法国再度发生核泄漏事故
http://www.epochtimes.com/gb/8/7/20/n2198078.htm

法国北部弗拉芒维尔发生小规模核泄漏
时间:2012-10-26
http://news.yesfr.com/29339.html
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发表于 24-7-2013 11:48 AM | 显示全部楼层
waja2000 发表于 24-7-2013 01:48 AM
法国的新闻,原文是法文,用google翻译了,大概明白意思就好了....

法国总统下星期来大马访问详谈阵风和 ...

下周有人会坐立不安了

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