［投资示警］ＩＳＫＡＮＤＡＲ ＺＯＮＥ Ａ和Ｂ未来将何去何从？

annielovelife

我在setia eco garden买了一间double storey
现在想在Klang Setia Alam一带入手一间double storey 20x70,rm555k, 不知道适合投资吗
我也感觉现在马来西亚的房地产很多已经有价无市了。。。

u0508950

annielovelife 发表于 12-3-2013 04:46 PM
我在setia eco garden买了一间double storey
现在想在Klang Setia Alam一带入手一间double storey 20x70,r ...

恩，请问你是如何感觉得到的呢？我自己是看你们天天这样讲感觉得到的。

你投资的目标是什么？租金？往后升值？年限大概多少呢？你都集中投资新屋子？不考虑旧屋？

annielovelife

u0508950 发表于 13-3-2013 01:06 AM
恩，请问你是如何感觉得到的呢？我自己是看你们天天这样讲感觉得到的。

你投资的目标是什么？租金？往 ...

我觉得我有kia su 心态, 总觉得再不买房子越来越贵,以后更不可能买了
买这么贵的房子,如果租金cover不到房贷,也不划算,毕竟他还是负资产
如果买了想转手卖...我还在考虑中
之前我在klang的时候当过一阵子agent, 很明显超过500k的房子,来电话要看房子的很少,前几年买房子的人,想转手真的可以很快
现在市场也有点静了,不是每个人能负担
而且现在发展商卖房子出的配套,有rebate,又DIBS,又免费这,免费那,把买房子这事变得很容易
我觉得这样的后遗症过几年就会出现了
我看了你帖子上的comment,也可以接受便宜买二手便宜的房子赚租金也是不错的投资
如果在jb你有是么适合的地方可以建议适合投资二手房子吗 ?
我也想知道你对现在房地产的看法如何?

u0508950

annielovelife 发表于 13-3-2013 09:06 PM
我觉得我有kia su 心态, 总觉得再不买房子越来越贵,以后更不可能买了
买这么贵的房子,如果租金cover不到 ...

买房子也不可以只看rental yield 的，很多房子的yield 很低，不过收藏价值很高，比如说bangsar，bandar utama或pj 的排屋，拿来长期持守很不错。要打yield的话，就要拿二手公寓了。

目前上涨势头是没那么猛了，不过价钱很难下，要买来自住就不用等了。
Jb 的二手公寓我没买过，不能给你什么意见。
自己本身看好的是雪兰莪，吉隆坡的排楼，以及一大堆新加坡人争的地点。

aidj

jasonhanjk 发表于 7-3-2013 03:05 PM
并不奇怪。
发展商在launch之前可以自己做booking。
当launching 的时候就讲80%卖完了，不快点买就没有 ...

体验过。认同。

我们就是这样你能拿我们这样！

jasonhanjk

aidj 发表于 1-4-2013 03:05 PM
体验过。认同。

我们就是这样你能拿我们这样！

又不违法，你要我对你怎样啊~~~

aidj

jasonhanjk 发表于 1-4-2013 03:12 PM
又不违法，你要我对你怎样啊~~~

呵呵！

kit6115

jasonhanjk 发表于 7-3-2013 03:05 PM
并不奇怪。
发展商在launch之前可以自己做booking。
当launching 的时候就讲80%卖完了，不快点买就没有 ...

发展商会派一些unit给不同州甚至不同国家的agency来卖
不管卖不卖得完
给你几个unit卖 那些被分配出去的自然而然就贴贴子
然后去到sales office 就跟你说卖完
都是只是一些销售手法而已

superblade4051

其实jb情况很像雪隆
不止pr和小新人
很多外国游客来买

‘‘我的朋友在律师楼工作，他刚毕业’’（请不要干吊，真的听他说的，他的亲生经历）
他工作那间firm帮过大陆投资客做agreement（广东人），developer assign的lawyer firm
那些人是一辆巴士一辆巴士来载来的
来了都说 ‘好平啊，好平啊’
然后就买了。。。。
就算他们不懂里面document写什么 也是签了算
购买力一流

所以‘个人觉得’地点不好的地方以后rental yield 可能会比较差点
也许靠近mrt 或 custom的地方还rental还不错
新山整体房价要掉倒是不那么容易掉
除非经济风暴
如果没有 价钱会还是会继续涨

－mrt 要2018 才建好
－还有zone C ，zone D（D 就算了吧。。。highway附近可能还有一点看头）

两个boost factor像播放着的音乐 一天不停 没人会坐下抢椅子

个人2cents意见

Dragoon

现在看回去，其实各位觉得在两年之内psf从 RM 600 起到 RM1200 有道理吗？
殊不知其实landed 新屋，gated and guarded, 才RM 400 psf
我依然那一句，要买就想清楚看清楚，
如果你不能租出去，又卖不出去， 你能hold 多久...

Btw,谢谢楼主的帖，又有吵架讨论的机会了，
不然房产这页挺闷的~

u0508950

Dragoon 发表于 3-7-2013 08:58 AM
现在看回去，其实各位觉得在两年之内psf从 RM 600 起到 RM1200 有道理吗？
殊不知其实landed 新屋，gated  ...

没什么人回....希望大家参与吵架.

卡螺丝

Factors you should be aware of before you invest in Iskandar, Johor

By Ascendant Assets Pte Ltd | Property Blog – Tue, Dec 4, 2012

By Getty Goh

These days, investing in Iskandar seems to be a very hot topic. Whenever I hold my talks or training, there will definitely be some people who will ask for my views of the location as well as whether they should buy a unit there.
In recent months, many Singaporeans are warming up to the idea of owning a unit there. Considering how expensive Singapore properties have become, some Singaporeans, as well as Singapore residents, are more open to staying in Johor where housing costs are much lower, and commuting to Singapore for work and play. However, before you jump onto the Iskandar bandwagon, you should be mindful that, despite the proximity, Johor's property market is very different from the Singapore market. Even though units there can go for as little as RM500,000 (about SGD200,000), buyers face several potential risks. So what are some of these risks?

1. Untested resale market.
Had anyone bought a unit in Iskandar back in 2009/2010, he would likely be sitting on good profits right. These days, new property launches are easily priced at 50% to 100% more.
Nonetheless, it is important for us to remember that profits are only realised when we sell the unit. As long as the unit is unsold, any increase in valuation will remain as paper profits. Although some properties in Iskandar are currently sitting on healthy paper profits, whether they can find buyers for those units remain to be seen. Even if owners are able to find a buyer from the resale market, any profits could be affected by the next factor.

2. Currency (or Exchange Rate) Risks.
For domestic Malaysian buyers, the issue of currency risk is not really a concern. In comparison, Singapore investors who wish to convert their profits from Malaysian Ringgit back to Singapore Dollar would be susceptible to fluctuations in exchange rates between the two countries. Singapore investors who own properties in Iskandar would want the Malaysian currency to strengthen (and not weaken) over time, so that profits in Singapore dollars would be more after conversion.
At present, RM1 is approximately the equivalent of SGD0.40. From Figure 1, it can be seen that the Malaysian Ringgit has been weakening against the Singapore Dollar over the last few years and the chart seems to suggest that this trend could potentially carry on. While this trend may be good for Singaporeans who are looking to buy, it works against those who are looking to sell as the value of their profits, in Singapore dollar, is gradually being eroded.

3. The Iskandar real estate market is not as transparent as Singapore.
As an investor, you can find information on the Singapore real estate market quite easily online. Unfortunately, this is not the same for Iskandar and the Malaysian real estate market is not as transparent as what many Singaporean property investors are used to. Adding to the lack of transparency, there are also political risks. In the last Malaysian election in 2008, the ruling party UMNO garnered just slightly more than 50% of the popular votes and failed to win the two-thirds supermajority in the Malaysian parliament needed to pass amendments to the Malaysian Constitution. With the next Malaysian election looming, the political climate is highly uncertain. In the event that a new political party comes into power, it is possible that Malaysia's new political masters would want to review some of the standing policies as well as arrangements pertaining to the Iskandar development. Hence, such political uncertainty could pose potential risks and uncertainty to Singaporeans who have bought units there.

4. Untested rental market.
Some investors, whom I have spoken to, told me they are prepared to hold onto their Iskandar units for the long-term by renting them out. However, what some of them may not realise is that the rental market in Iskandar is currently untested and the amount of rental returns is still questionable. In addition, even if there is rental demand, it could be volatile during the initial stage. This is because many developments would be completed about the same time and that, in turn, could result in excess housing supply. With the sizable supply, tenants would be spoilt for choice and it is foreseeable that it would take a while for rental prices to eventually stabilise.

Conclusion
If we were to look beyond the hype of Iskandar, we can see that investing in that location is not devoid of risks.
At this juncture, I wish to emphasize that I am not saying that Iskandar is a bad investment and Singaporeans should not go in. Even I am personally exploring the possibility of investing in that location. Given the challenging property investment conditions in Singapore, it would make sense for some investors to venture across the causeway.
Ultimately, we cannot assume that the real estate market in Iskandar and Singapore behaves in the similar way. In addition, certain factors, such as political and currency risks, that we often take for granted when we buy or sell a Singapore property, actually become important considerations when it comes to buying properties across the causeway. Hence, it is important for all investors to do their research before they plunge in.
As a parting shot, let me end this article with a quote from Donald Trump, one of the richest men who made his fortune through real estate, "Every day, you'll have opportunities to take chances and to work outside your safety net. Sure, it's a lot easier to stay in your comfort zone…but sometimes you have to take risks. When the risks pay off, that's when you reap the biggest rewards." Despite the uncertainty, those who have the gumption for risks and the financial ability to hold could potentially find some gems and make money there. Only time will tell if investing in Iskandar will pay off.
Getty Goh is the director of Ascendant Assets Pte Ltd, a boutique real estate research consultancy. He has a Masters in Real Estate and a Bachelors in Building from the National University of Singapore. He conducts frequent talks on the topic of property investing.

or more information, please visit www.BuyByeProperty.com.

thsy1127

bujua 发表于 7-3-2013 03:23 PM
如我之前所说，现在进场的话，风险管理和了解自身能力很重要，要自住和长期持有的也许风险较低，要赚快钱 ...

absolutely right! ^^

thsy1127

aidj 发表于 1-4-2013 03:05 PM
体验过。认同。

我们就是这样你能拿我们这样！

seems like cheating customer , missleading , missinterpret. biz world .