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Osis03

原帖由 神行太保 于 6-1-2009 11:59 AM 发表
刚入了这游戏来~画面像是在看动画的感觉

你入日版/美版???

神行太保

原帖由 Osis03 于 6-1-2009 02:05 PM 发表

你入日版/美版???

亚洲英文版,为了看得懂的语言而放弃原著日语版本
暂时玩到与Estelle逃出城堡一幕~

另外有一个DVD特典一些花絮等
开来看了下日文的,听不懂啦喂~

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火辣女生

虽然有xxx版, 也不见得多人讨论, 难道大家不流行日RPG了?

Osis03

原帖由 神行太保 于 6-1-2009 07:12 PM 发表


亚洲英文版,为了看得懂的语言而放弃原著日语版本
暂时玩到与Estelle逃出城堡一幕~

另外有一个DVD特典一些花絮等
开来看了下日文的,听不懂啦喂~

对，那个dvd必定是日文的了，没办法
其实tov的英文声优算合格的，虽然一些npc的杂角表现参差，但算ok了。为了剧情，只能这样了
以前我会觉得日文首选，现在不一定了，剧情看得懂，也是买美版的bonus原因

原帖由 火辣女生 于 6-1-2009 11:52 PM 发表
虽然有xxx版, 也不见得多人讨论, 难道大家不流行日RPG了?

你闲不闲，和tlr套用同样的内容....
无可厚非，日本rpg已经没以前那么影响力大了，日本厂商再不进取，只有拓大被无视可能性。
但，tov是近期里日本rpg的不错作品，我觉得它算是有交足诚意了，让我连续玩了2回，还会第3回...的。

edisonyeoh

有人过弯了吗？？？

墮天地獄闇

闇也開始玩了。。
成就點有點虐待。。。
請問。。boss的成就，missed就得等下一次嗎？
這次的AI太廢了。。自己使用道具。。氣死。。
不過。。還好回復葯都變得很便宜。

個人進行方式，打雜兵Hard,打boss-normal
這次不懂有沒有打hard的王來取得特殊技能。

Zeroff

我入手了这游戏，可惜是英文版，没心情玩中 第一次失手 tales of系列买不到日版

墮天地獄闇

去PA買咯。。
不然就網上找邪惡版。

chtan69

我卡在凤凰boss那关，过不去。现在等新Jasper机，旧的上个礼拜三红了。

Osis03

原帖由 墮天地獄闇 于 2-2-2009 05:58 PM 发表

闇也開始玩了。。
成就點有點虐待。。。
請問。。boss的成就，missed就得等下一次嗎？
這次的AI太廢了。。自己使用道具。。氣死。。
不過。。還好回復葯都變得很便宜。

個人進行方式，打雜兵Hard,打boss-no ...

成就近乎精神耐力的虐待....很多分支剧情，要命的是错过其中一个，搞不好会影响拿到其成就....你说的boss成就，是打中它们的弱点或用某特殊方式攻击换来的那些成就?对，错过的话，就得2周目来过...除非你当时save了，回到之前再挑战过。还有个成就，是scan全部角色和怪物之类的资料的，每次养成一进去battle就scan下它们资料的习惯 (用狗狗的特殊技能/或用那个特定item)

Zeroff

我玩任何游戏都不理会成就的

Osis03

根据日本那边的杂志情报(红圈)，TOV这游戏貌似在日本电视台推出剧场动画版

墮天地獄闇

可能是tales of the abyss的動畫好賣吧？
所以又來了~~

Osis03

原帖由 墮天地獄闇 于 16-2-2009 10:36 AM 发表

可能是tales of the abyss的動畫好賣吧？
所以又來了~~

是吗?我是想，toa好卖也应该是情理之中，因为玩游戏版时已经觉得剧情还不错，所以动画版受欢迎呱?
但tov的剧情，其实不会算是很突出，虽然游戏不错玩。目前全球销量好像在二十多万左右。

cheapskirt

原帖由 Osis03 于 17-2-2009 02:52 AM 发表

是吗?我是想，toa好卖也应该是情理之中，因为玩游戏版时已经觉得剧情还不错，所以动画版受欢迎呱?
但tov的剧情，其实不会算是很突出，虽然游戏不错玩。目前全球销量好像在二十多万左右。

绝对赞成！！！

edisonyeoh

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Introduction
This guide will teach you an effective method of Grade Farming for Tales of Vesperia using the character Rita and spamming a particular spell called "Tidal Wave".

I do not take credit for any of the information contained wherein, only the act of putting the information together in an easy to digest format.

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What Is Grade?
Everything you do in battle earns or subtracts Grade points.
Everything you do in battle earns or subtracts Grade points.
In the Tales series, a system called "Grade" is implemented into the battle system.  You gain (or lose) a certain number of points for everything you do in battle such as not taking a hit, quick battles, pulling off successful combos, etc..  At the end of the game, you can use the Grade for purchasing extras to use in a new game plus.  Some of the options include raising the item cap to 99, 10x experience, carry over gold, carry over skills, etc.  You will select all of these options in the Grade Shop at the start of a new game plus.

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Grade Shop Items
For quick reference, and to know how much Grade you need to accrue, below is a list containing every Grade Shop item and it's associated price.  (I tried to add this as a nicely formatted table but apparently, pressing backspace will delete the table)

    * Max 99 items: 400
    * items: 500  //  Inherit non-valuable items
    * Gald: 1000   //  Inherit Gald
    * Titles: 500  //  Inherit titles
    * Collector's Book: 10  //  Keep all information gathered in Collector's Book
    * Enemy Book: 10  //  Keep all information gathered in Enemy Book
    * Recipes: 10  //  Inherit all recipes learned
    * Cooking Skill: 50  //  Inherit current cooking skill level
    * World Map: 300  //  Keep the amount of viewable map
    * Craft Skill: 10  //  Inherit current craft skill level
    * Records: 10  //  Inherit current information listed in "Records" menu
    * Artes: 1000  //  Inherit all learned artes. (For all characters)
    * Skill: 1000  //  Inherit all learned skills.  (For all characters)
    * Yuri artes and skills: 350  //  Inherit artes and skills for this character.
    * Estelle Artes and Skills: 350  //  Inherit artes and skills for this character.
    * Karol Artes and Skills: 350  //  Inherit artes and skills for this character.
    * Rita Artes and Skills: 350  //  Inherit artes and skills for this character.
    * Raven Artes and Skills: 350  //  Inherit artes and skills for this character.
    * Judith Artes and Skills: 350  //  Inherit artes and skills for this character.
    * Repede Artes and Skills: 350  //  Inherit artes and skills for this character.
    * Increase Max HP: 500  //  Start game with maximum HP increased by 20%. Cannot be used with "Decrease Max HP."
    * Decrease Max HP: 10  //  Start game with maximum HP decreased by 20%. Cannot be used with "Increase Max HP."
    * Increase Max TP: 500  //  Start game with maximum TP increased by 20%. Cannot be used with "Decrease Max TP."
    * Decrease Max TP: 10  //  Start game with maximum TP decreased by 20%. Cannot be used with "Increase Max TP."
    * 2X Gald: 600  //  Earn twice the amount of Gald in battle
    * Increase Over Limit: 1000  //  Doubles speed at which Overlimit gauge fills.
    * 1/2 Experience: 10  //  Decrease amount of Exp. earned to half. Cannot be used with other Exp. related options.
    * Double Exp.: 1000  //  Earn twice the normal Exp. in battle. Cannot be used with other Exp. related options.
    * 10X Exp.: 3000  //  Earn 10x normal Exp. in battle. Cannot be used with other Exp. related options.
    * 2X Grade: 3000  //  Earn twice the amount of GRADE.
    * Skill SP 1: 3000  //  Reduce SP consumption for using skills to 1
    * Increase item drop rate: 1000  //  Doubles chance of aquiring items from battle.
    * Battle Techniques: 50  //  Set Exp. value to 1 and increase bonus Exp. by 5.
    * Unlock Battle Rank: 50  //  Unlock battle difficulty "UNKNOWN"
    * Unlock all Skits: 1000  //  You can view all skits on the skit player at Nam Cobanda Isle (must discover island yourself)


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Getting Started
You will be using the character Rita for this task.  Rita must be the one in control.  The information below lists what you need to gather before you start farming.

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Skills & Equipment
The skills listed below for Rita shows you what weapon you need to learn them.  Please note that Milky Way +1 cannot be obtained until you have access to the final dungeon as the weapon is located in a chest inside the dungeon.

Rita Mordio: Master Grade Farmer
Rita Mordio: Master Grade Farmer
Rita

    * Spell:  Tidal Wave  (will learn around lvl. 52)
    * Skill:  Light Magic // Weapon:  Ever Blue
    * Skill:  Minimum Damage  //  Weapon: Sash +1
    * Skill:  Endure  //  Weapon: ?
    * Skill:  O.L. Bonus  //  Weapon: Sword Whip
    * Skill:  Speed Cast  //  Weapon: Milky Way +1
    * Skill:  Spell End  //  Weapon: Psychedelica +1
    * Skill:  O.L. Boost   //  Weapon:  Nova +1 a
    * Equip:  Wonder Symbol  (an accessory)


Karol

    * Skill:  Taunt or Taunt 2  //  Weapon:  Bastard Sword +1 b (for Taunt 2)
    * Equip:  Blue Dice (accessory)


Raven

    * Skill:  Taunt or Taunt 2  //  Weapon: Variable Edge +1 b (for Taunt 2)
    * Equip:  Blue Dice (accessory)


Other Characters
Try to obtain Taunt or Taunt 2 on your third character.  If you are able to come by a third blue dice during your journey (which you apparently can) equip that on the third character as well.  Also have one character be able to use the skill "Item Thrower" giving them the ability to regenerate your magic for you.

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Strategy Setup
For all extra characters, setup the strategy in the strategy menu as seen here.  The only exception is the character that has the skill "Item Thrower", set the Item strategy to "Watch TP".  As you get low on TP they'll throw an item to replenish it for you.

Strategy        Set As
Target         Help Allies
HP        Avoid Risk
TP         Do Not Use
Action         Defend
Position         Keep Distance
Item         Watch HP
Overlimit         Do Not Use
FS         Do Not Use


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Farming Time
Go to the land just outside Capua Nor.  I've tried a few other locations, but have always gotten the best results here.  Apply a Dark Bottle to yourself to increase the encounter rate.  Try to get a couple of enemies linked into the same battle.

As soon as battle starts, open the menu and load the strategy that you've set above.  If you're able to get your overlimit to level 3 and you've also got Taunt 2 on your other characters, then make sure your overlimit is at 3 because when you use it, you won't spend TP using your tidal wave spell.  Also make sure Tidal Wave is set to your default arte button because you're going to be in this for the long haul.

As soon as you exit the menu, activate overlimit level 3 (push left on d-pad) if you have Taunt 2 on your other characters.  If you only have Taunt 1 activate a level 1 overlimit (push right on d-pad) and start tapping the arte button furiously.  As soon as you start getting low on your overlimit and it's about to run out, mash the d-pad to reactivate your overlimit.  The combination of you hitting 8 or so enemies at once plus your teammates taunting will continually build your overlimit.  By the time you run out of your current overlimit, you should have another 1 or 3 level overlimit waiting for you.

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Method In Action
Here is a video by tetsuo9999 showing the method in action.  The strategy originated in this video.
  

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Conclusion
Once you've done this a few times, you'll get the hang of it and really be able to keep the combo going for long periods of time.  To check how much Grade you've earned, go to Nam Camboda Isle which is located around the North Western part of the map.  You will be able to see how much Grade you've earned by going to the woman who will sell you game chips for either Grade or Gald.  Select the Grade option to see your total Grade earned so far.

Hopefully this guide has helped you learn how to Grade farm!  Please share this with others and feel free to make revisions.  I have not come up with any of the strategies listed here, only gathered information in an easy to digest source.

Osis03

原帖由 edisonyeoh 于 19-2-2009 08:27 PM 发表
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你好，很谢谢你的分享
但转载的，还是注明下出处和作者的啊，大家留意下了.....转载自gamefaq??没记错那边一些作者对转载要求满严格的....所以，最好是直接分享连接就ok了，无需全文转载，以避免引起任何问题。谢谢体谅和合作

火辣女生

这游戏的ENDING好吗??

naoki_desu

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vesperia确定移植！！还追加新角tim

各位爆机的大大不懂会不会再玩多一次呢。。？

Osis03

TOV下面那个才是...别看错


追加新角色x1.......

原帖由 naoki_desu 于 2-4-2009 04:30 PM 发表
■PS3版テイルズオブヴェスペリア
PS3に移植
発売日：２００９年発売予定
▼新キャラ
パティ・フルール
CV：斎藤千和
悪名高い海賊アイフリードの宝を探す冒険家。どこまで本気かわからない言動が特徴。 ...

不会再买了...一是对新角色没感觉；二是重点...为了拿满成就..已经连续玩了3轮.....