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【红魔转会讨论区VIII】冬季转会 Welcome Bruno!
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发表于 27-6-2017 11:15 AM
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发表于 27-6-2017 11:19 AM
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水手一月山 发表于 27-6-2017 10:38 AM
我真是少数支持马蒂入魔的？
呵呵，希望他真的来，希望他发光发亮，打脸洗在的反对派，就像Zlatan打脸去年的我。
至于钱方面，就不要去担心了。
那个排名什么的，我不是很相信啦，什么Dier第一，Naigollan ...
我是不反对matic来，如果他能回到两三年前的状态，那是不会比kante差的，只是可不可以我还有所保留，毕竟状态已经不好了两个赛季。据di marzio说，fabinho在mourinho的计划是wingback，所以还是有可能的，只是我觉得没有必要那么贵买一个wingback,曼联还有valencia一个铁钉主力在，不过fabinho有时还可以去打后腰。 |
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发表于 27-6-2017 11:24 AM
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本帖最后由 天然夜行者 于 27-6-2017 11:25 AM 编辑
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发表于 27-6-2017 11:26 AM
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Matic i ok , 唯一不满意的是，要是真的是4千万镑，真心贵。
Sibeh 贵 !!!
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发表于 27-6-2017 11:27 AM
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发贝诺是右闸第一人选吧
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发表于 27-6-2017 11:28 AM
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发表于 27-6-2017 11:29 AM
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CRon7 发表于 27-6-2017 11:19 AM
我是不反对matic来，如果他能回到两三年前的状态，那是不会比kante差的，只是可不可以我还有所保留，毕竟状态已经不好了两个赛季。据di marzio说，fabinho在mourinho的计划是wingback，所以还是有可能的，只是我觉 ...
华少，年纪不小了。。。而且大伤过。。。加上下赛季4线作战，板凳厚一些是好的
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发表于 27-6-2017 11:29 AM
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发表于 27-6-2017 11:32 AM
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MR.Beck 发表于 27-6-2017 11:29 AM
华少，年纪不小了。。。而且大伤过。。。加上下赛季4线作战，板凳厚一些是好的
Semedo好像比较便宜。 |
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发表于 27-6-2017 11:32 AM
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Firstly, let’s not forget that Matic has just played 35 league games in a side which won the title at a canter. Kante gets the plaudits for his eye catching ground coverage, but without the big Serb at his side doing the dirty work he would no doubt have been less impressive, as would Chelsea as a whole. In that sense, Matic is very much a ‘cog in the machine’ type player, which perhaps doesn’t do him full justice, but that’s exactly what United need for me. United’s conundrum all season long was how to get the best out of Pogba. In a midfield two, he’s bogged down by much of that aforementioned ‘dirty work’ and in a three Jose never quite got the right blend of teammates around him.
However, if you think about a three of Matic sitting deep protecting the back four, with Herrera (right) and Pogba (left) that for me feels a whole lot more balanced as a trio. Carrick undoubtedly has a much better range of passing than say Matic, but he’s not got the mobility he once had, and even when he did, still had a tendency to let players run off him at CDM. On paper, it’s not an awe-inspiring setup but any means, but it could just work in practice and I guess that’s the acid test for this purchase should it go through as rumoured.
Matic has also had a couple of seasons in the Premier League now, so he knows what it’s about and what’s required to win a title in what can be a slog of a campaign at times. He’s also big, strong and a bit of a s**thouse. So that really is all of the Jose boxes ticked I’m afraid. United have made a habit of buying names, rather than players to fill a specific role over the last few years, so hopefully Matic will be the cog that bucks that trend. |
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发表于 27-6-2017 11:44 AM
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semedo 3500万欧左右。。。
右后卫，右中场，左后卫。。。
fanbinho 4000万欧左右。。。
后腰，右后卫。。。
两个都是23岁
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发表于 27-6-2017 11:50 AM
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马蒂可能就只值2千万镑啦，不过：
1。买家是曼联，曼联税， +5百万
2。买家是车仔直接对头，+5百万
3。EPL certified，+5百万
4。Mourinho certified，+5百万
他的状态下滑是在穆车2.0的第三季吧？那一季除了威廉哪个车仔不下滑？上赛季有所回升了，车仔连胜那段时间也是他状态最好的一段时间。 |
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发表于 27-6-2017 11:53 AM
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fabinho我觉得4000万欧我觉得买不到，应该要5000万欧上下。
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发表于 27-6-2017 11:55 AM
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买Fabinho继续做右翼卫是好的，唯一我不舒服的是，他和Valencia之间谁主谁副？我个人比较偏向对球员有明确的主副职责，而不是两个“都有机会”做正选。 |
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发表于 27-6-2017 11:56 AM
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水手一月山 发表于 27-6-2017 11:50 AM
马蒂可能就只值2千万镑啦，不过：
1。买家是曼联，曼联税， +5百万
2。买家是车仔直接对头，+5百万
3。EPL certified，+5百万
4。Mourinho certified，+5百万
他的状态下滑是在穆车2.0的第三季吧？那一季除 ...
我没有留意车仔的比赛，看到是说状态还是没有以前好。他这两季表现不好据说是因为他变的爱带球向前，如果鸟叔可以压制他呆在后面干脏活，我觉得他的表现有望回升。
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发表于 27-6-2017 11:58 AM
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天然夜行者 发表于 27-6-2017 11:32 AM
轉：
Firstly, let’s not forget that Matic has just played 35 league games in a side which won the title at a canter. Kante gets the plaudits for his eye catching ground coverage, but without the b ...
据说他这两季表现不好就是因为他变的爱带球向前。
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发表于 27-6-2017 11:59 AM
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SAF 签的最后一个DCM是不是Owen Hargreaves？ |
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发表于 27-6-2017 01:10 PM
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看好的方面
其实matic 比起fabinho 更符合穆的要求
：高（很重要,基本这因素秒掉很多后腰选择）， 壮， 英超proven,穆有说明书
缺点：年纪高（阵中年轻人不少），贵（曼联有钱）
matic 和大树差一两岁，如果高空球不在依赖大树，基本把大树卖掉可以腾出位置给年轻人
Dier 虽然年轻，实力其实不比matic 强，而且潜力这种东西不包的，可能两年后 团子贝可以挑大梁也不一定
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发表于 27-6-2017 01:47 PM
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穆习惯进攻从keeper大脚build up，后场几乎没有人拿球。
所以“高度“会很重要
卡神有些年纪了，马蒂适时轮换会很好。
再说 下个赛季我们不期望能统治英超，只要提高主场胜算就可以。没有时间再给球员适应了，即插即用是最好 |
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发表于 27-6-2017 02:07 PM
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