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I Liq Chuan - 意力拳

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发表于 19-12-2009 06:17 PM | 显示全部楼层
Victor兄,头三个月真的是RM 1,300???
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 楼主| 发表于 20-12-2009 03:06 PM | 显示全部楼层
确实

去访问他, 他是一个杰出的修补 "破拳"能手。

否则, 我那会追求他的功夫 ?

备忘录 : 我是1985/86 大马"极真会" 公开赛冠军,
第一次接触他的手时, 不到三秒也跌落,给他挂起"墙壁"是一般的美好经历。

喜。。喜。。目前没那么容易的。

他已经可以控制敌手移动,去试一试,看你有什么见解。
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 楼主| 发表于 11-4-2010 07:55 PM | 显示全部楼层
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Can someone assist to correct my posting ?
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发表于 11-4-2010 10:56 PM | 显示全部楼层
确实

    忘录 : 我是1985/86 大马"极真会" 公开赛冠军,
第一次接触他的手时, 不到三秒也跌落,给他挂起"墙壁"是一般的美好经历。

victoriliqchuan 发表于 20-12-2009 03:06 PM



那是因为你练的是硬拳, 所以比较容易给人接到力.
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发表于 11-4-2010 10:59 PM | 显示全部楼层
回复 43# victoriliqchuan

让我来帮您一把

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 楼主| 发表于 12-4-2010 09:40 AM | 显示全部楼层
smallhurricane
对的!那时我对"阴阳法"是彻底地没有认识


歐賣葛

谢谢帮助!  希望你也能从视频中吸收&学习。
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 楼主| 发表于 11-6-2010 12:14 PM | 显示全部楼层
1585#  发表于 11-6-2010 12:06 PM | 只看该作者
以下是英语译本 :

History

The history of I-Liq Chuan is cryptic. My father Chin Lik Keong is the Grandmaster of the system, and he learned the art from Sifu Lee Kam Chow in Malaysia. At that time, the art was called Hsing I-Pa Kua. Some people called it Feng Yang Chuan or Liew Mun Pai (nomadic clan) and it originated from Wudang Mountain. It was a hidden martial art skill used by these nomads to protect themselves on the open roads and was not open to the public, and only passed down secretly. The higher levels of skill were kept for the family members.

My father traced the history of the style to find its origins. He found that I-Liq Chuan training methods didn't really look like Hsing I Chuan, I Chuan, Pa Kua Chuan, or T'ai-Chi Chuan, yet they contained the principles of all four. My father continued his research and expanded on what he had learned. He came to the conclusion that I-Liq Chuan was an art of self-recognition and self-realization of both the mental (I) and the physical (Liq). So, feeling uncomfortable with naming the art under any one of the internal styles he renamed it I Liq Chuan. In 1976 Grandmaster Chin formed the I Liq Chuan Association in Malaysia




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About the instructor,
Master Sam F.S. Chin:


Traditionally trained since his childhood with his father, Grand Master Chin Lik-Keong, the founder of the art.
Chief instructor in United States of America.
The genuine second generation and co-founder of the art.
Has won championships in T'ai-Chi push-hands and kick-boxing tournaments, and his students have also won competitions.
Has been teaching for 16 years in Malaysia and Australia.
At present, teaching in Chuang Yen Monastery in Kent, New York since 1993



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System

I-Liq Chuan is a style of Kung Fu based solely on physical sensitivity and sensorial mind awareness - not on developing techniques for dealing with particular situations. It is an art of unifying mental and physical. To understand how they effect each other and to unify and coordination them. Through the learning process, of which is merely to recognize and realize and not to accumulate or imitate as that is just building another habit. In the training system which the students need to recognize the six physical points and three mental factors. They train through the process of understanding muscular movement, body structure [skeleton]. Incorporating chi [energy] and the mental process. Relaxation is an essential component of the art. Relaxation contains the process of looseness, softness, elasticity, and fa jing [issuing power]. As soon as an I-Liq Chuan practitioner touches an opponent's hands or body, he can feel instantly what strike or technique the opponent is going to use and where the opponent's weight and center of gravity is extending. Ultimately, the I-Liq Chuan practitioner is able to sense the opponent's intention, even without contact, through awareness. He can then redirect the force and use it against the opponent or incorporate the use of f'a jing [energy release] strikes depending on the threat level.

It's the mind that leads and the body that follows. When you are trying to move your opponent, first lead his mind before you move his body. By trying to move your opponent with just brute force alone, his body feels heavy.

The mind has neither weight nor volume. If the art of leading the mind is mastered, a woman or a child can easily defeat a big man. By leading your opponent's mind, he leads his own body movement.

Originally I -Liq Chuan had no forms, it was a formless art. At first the system only contained specialized sticky hands practice, its resulting sensitivities, and Ch'i Kung. Now the system has expanded and includes two training forms, but the applications are still learned from the sticky hands practice which is based on feel. The primary emphasis of I-Liq Chuan is awareness, which develops in time from practicing and applying the philosophy.

An I-Liq Chuan student is taught from form to become formless. There are no fixed moves every move is based on the conditions; what the condition is and what your move is. Only when you are merging with an opponent's energy at every moment, can you use your own energy appropriately and precisely.
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 楼主| 发表于 11-6-2010 12:22 PM | 显示全部楼层
finity,

(還有很多人都知道(坐蓮)也可以名叫坐盤!
他是中華武術的其中的一個招式。
問題是很多人不知道到怎樣用這個招式。
我從前有領教過這招的用法。
可惜到目前爲此我沒真正的見到有人用到這招了!
我只可以肯定到這招是用在那裏。
不過要由哪個方向開始我倒忘了。
希望知者能分享一下這招式的方程,)

It appear in Ipman 2,
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发表于 11-6-2010 05:52 PM | 显示全部楼层
看来视频,竟然有冲动学,可是一个40多岁,没学过武的胖子,上的到手吗
都是叶问2,害我心细细。
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发表于 11-6-2010 08:45 PM | 显示全部楼层
请问一下意力拳的门户有收女徒弟吗?其实我曾经介绍我的女性朋友(不是女朋友)尝试意力拳
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 楼主| 发表于 12-6-2010 09:34 AM | 显示全部楼层
影武者神风 ,

Jimmy 门下有三位女学生,专练防身。

以我的认识,实际上,意力拳是 :

1。架子/杠杆/功力拳 - 加强身子内部整个整衔接,
                          拉长力量/力气的使用。

2。通过"筋骨运动"训练, 提升&加强皮肤"听劲"能力
    从中懂得对手的意图/意向, 那么本身只要"相反"对应
    对手的意图/意向,就能支配/抑制敌手。

3。太极/阴阳,圈位,原理运用。

4。其他的, 你必须碰手后材会了解我想要解释的。
    因为动作是随…意识而定, 抢攻是转动而进入的
    不怕分享,说出原理,因为读&看是学不到的

NOTE :  希望你从SAM CHIN - ENGLISH 说法中得益,
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 楼主| 发表于 17-6-2010 06:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 victoriliqchuan 于 17-6-2010 06:58 PM 编辑

资料分享!

希望所有的热衷者改进!


前辈相传,凡是人,都有一个总(重心点,局部部分又各有一个重心点,比如人们常说的丹田就是人体总重心点,而颈椎部位是人体上半部分(丹田以上)的重心点,肘部是手臂部分的重心点,膝部是人体下半部分(丹田以下)的重心点,这些重心点对于把握、运用重力波十分重要。

根据什么断定这些重心点的正确性呢?

一则,凡属于重心点的部位,一旦受到外力的打击和控制,都容易引起整体或局部失控;二则,重心点一动必能带动相应的身体部分。

体认重力波的原则是:身体总重心大动,各局部重心点小动,其它部位随动。

一般认为,蓄力为静,发力为动;果真如此那重力波就运用不出来了。

所谓“我微动”就是蓄力,就是体内重力波催动的过程,犹如海面下潜流汹涌。发力是什么?是极动后的瞬间一静,是汽车高速行驶之后的刹车,重力波发于体外就是这么来的。

该波浪力量的起点始自人体总重心在前后脚之间的轻重对倒,如向前发力则变两脚前虚后实为前实后虚,其它发力依次类推,至于两脚虚实互换的比例,二八、三七、四六等均各有之,总以“先求大动后求小动”为原则身体重心除了前后移动,还有起落,于是构成整体移位的悠荡之力,重力波便通过蓄力时身拔而发力时身伏,由身体总重心点即腹腔中心向四肢梢端辐射出来了,最终形成一浪压过一浪、一波催动一波的波浪动力,术语称之为“化身体位能为身体势能”。

在重力波的运用中,身体不可有拙力即超出身体移位的多余用力,否则会影响身体势能的发挥。体重本身通过极速运动自然就会产生力,像汽车熄火下坡一样。假如身体内部有拙力的移位,就如同汽车带档滑行,既有损车的性能又影响滑行的速度。

为了使重力波的运用达到最大效果,训练三个阶段,即意力相随、意力相逆、意力不分。

意力相随所导致的是整体运力节节相催,因此一般习武者练习的是以躯干带动肢体,并传有口诀“根节(肩)催,中节(肘)抖,梢节(手)刺。这种练法之所以成为练拳的第一阶段,是因为它比那种躯干不动徒做四肢舞的拳术套路进了一大步。但不足之处在于,节节相催的发力一旦遇到外界大于本身的反作用力,极容易引起自身发紧,致使重力波受阻,比如你用力推一块大石头,推不动,会不会发紧?为了解决这个问题,意力相逆的试力训练方法。

意力相逆,即试力或发力过程中练拳者的意念和力量成相反方向,道家曰“行乎不得不行,止乎不得不止”,拳家解释为“推着小车下坡”或“水自身后来,力量向前去”等。如此训练,手是主动,身为从动,结果形成手带着身子做动作而且节节相追的重力波运用,与前一阶段的节节相催正好相反,因此圈内传有“稍节(手)起,中节(肘)随,根节(肩)追”的拳诀。至此阶段,重力波的练习、运用才有一个质的提高。

至于到了高级阶段,意力不分的观点,把前两个练法融在一起,使重力波的追求臻至炉火纯青的境地。由上可知,意力相逆的节节相追,在重力波的追求中最为关键也最鲜为人知。


大自然的力量,究竟是后面推着前面走还是前面带着后面行呢?恐怕是后者。因为科学家证实;大海潮汐是由月亮引力而引起的。是以,重力波的运用需要一种假借之力才能形成节节相追,联想前面提到的“推着小车下坡”和“水自身后来,力量向前去”,不难悟到这种假借之力。这一点有待智者指正。

为此,推手、实作要将对方当成自己的一根拐棍儿,这根拐棍就是我的第三个支撑点。只有这样,才能充分调动人体总重心和各个重心点的运动功能,带起全身,最大程度地显现重力波的打击效果,这就是传统意义上的“重心作用于体外”。

这里还有一个技术性做法,即发力时习者的前后脚不要站在一条直线上,否则无法将重力波作用到对方身上,最好把打击目标放在两只脚向前延长线的范围内,必要时可以一只脚微离地面(前后脚不定),这样体重更容易加到对方身上。

其实重力波的运用只在刹那间就完成了,好似打个冷战一样。
以上所谈,似有概念游戏之嫌,读者、习者尽可实际练功,互为印证、提高。

总之,放松是手段,求取重力与争力才是目的,松沉劲的奥秘也就尽在其中了。
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 楼主| 发表于 23-7-2010 06:42 PM | 显示全部楼层
兄弟,

请帮助放上我新的CLIP。。。

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74TNppKNah4
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发表于 23-7-2010 07:36 PM | 显示全部楼层
兄弟,

请帮助放上我新的CLIP。。。

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74TNppKNah4
victoriliqchuan 发表于 23-7-2010 06:42 PM


我来鸡婆。


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 楼主| 发表于 23-7-2010 08:36 PM | 显示全部楼层
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 楼主| 发表于 25-7-2010 07:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
Pahangjudo,

上星期,你有跟这只大玩具玩,玩两手mah?


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