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发表于 4-3-2008 09:23 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 hey_friends 于 4-3-2008 01:47 PM 发表
i am understood...but i still have some questions.

"i forgot to tell you our plans"
can it be "i forgot tell you our plans",we take out "to"?
or must be "i forgot telling you our plans"? y?
is i ...


"I am understood" should be " I have understood".
is/am/are + past participle = passive voice of present simple.

In this case,you can't omit the "to".Usually we omit "to" if the preceding verb is "verb to be(IS/AM/ARE)".

I forgot to tell you our plans and I forgot telling you our plans have different meaning.
The first one means you must be informed.However,the 2nd one means that it is not a necessity to inform you.

Yes,the "telling" is a gerund.

As object cannot take verb,placing "was' in front of present participle is wrong.

"placing" is a gerund here.
"Object" is the subject and "verb' is the object.
And the object in the sentence does not have any relation with the gerund "placing".
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发表于 4-3-2008 09:26 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 hey_friends 于 4-3-2008 02:04 PM 发表
1)They were driven or shipped into Singapore in containers using forged documents and registration numbers.
using = present participle,am i right?

2)Numerous times this season Yao carried the Ro ...


For 1),the actual version is " They were driven or shipped into Singapore in containers (by) using forged documents and registration numbers.

The "using" is a gerund and not present participle.

They were driven or shipped into Singapore in containers by the lorry driver (n).
They were driven or shipped into Singapore in containers by using (n) forged documents and registration numbers.

By can be omitted in this case.

Do you understand?
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发表于 4-3-2008 09:28 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 hey_friends 于 4-3-2008 02:04 PM 发表
1)They were driven or shipped into Singapore in containers using forged documents and registration numbers.
using = present participle,am i right?

2)Numerous times this season Yao carried the Ro ...


2)Numerous times this season Yao carried the Rockets on his giant shoulders but his teammates have rallied in his absence (BY) winning their first two games without him and (BY) extending their winning streak to 14 games. They are seventh in the Western Conference.
winning =gerund,extending=gerund.am i right?

Yes,you are absolutely right.
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发表于 4-3-2008 09:29 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 hey_friends 于 4-3-2008 02:04 PM 发表
1)They were driven or shipped into Singapore in containers using forged documents and registration numbers.
using = present participle,am i right?

2)Numerous times this season Yao carried the Ro ...


for 4) Achieving is a present participle,the obj precedes it is " the country"
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发表于 4-3-2008 09:33 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 hey_friends 于 4-3-2008 02:04 PM 发表
1)They were driven or shipped into Singapore in containers using forged documents and registration numbers.
using = present participle,am i right?

2)Numerous times this season Yao carried the Ro ...


For 5,including acts as a gerund.You cant use past participle "included" or "included" that acts as a verb  (did include).

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发表于 4-3-2008 09:34 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 hey_friends 于 4-3-2008 02:04 PM 发表
1)They were driven or shipped into Singapore in containers using forged documents and registration numbers.
using = present participle,am i right?

2)Numerous times this season Yao carried the Ro ...


6) yes,beating is gerund there.
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 楼主| 发表于 5-3-2008 11:10 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 darksider 于 4-3-2008 09:29 PM 发表


for 4) Achieving is a present participle,the obj precedes it is " the country"

i dun understand this.is it boz it indicated last year so we should put present participle?o how did you get it?
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 楼主| 发表于 5-3-2008 11:16 AM | 显示全部楼层
As object cannot take verb,placing "was' in front of present participle is wrong.

"placing" is a gerund here.
"Object" is the subject and "verb' is the object.
And the object in the sentence does not have any relation with the gerund "placing".

i take this as a example.we use gerund in a sentence,is it boz we have alr got a main verb in this sentence,so the second verb must be gerund without conjuction?
cannot take = main verb and place = 2nd verb,so place must use "placing" as gerund,izit?
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 楼主| 发表于 5-3-2008 11:25 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 hey_friends 于 5-3-2008 11:10 AM 发表

i dun understand this.is it boz it indicated last year so we should put present participle?o how did you get it?

o boz of archieving is related to obj(the country),so we use present participle?
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 楼主| 发表于 5-3-2008 11:49 AM | 显示全部楼层
there is some questions here again,i hope you could answer me ,tq

1)i'm almost finished writing it.
writing = gerund,am i right?

2)This latest snub to Shevchenko leaves him in a familiar position.
leaves = to infinite,am i right?

3)if grant can unleash the same attacking firepower on Olympiakos the Greek side would struggle to cope,although they travel to London knowing a score draw can take them through.
knowing = gerund,am i right?

4)It is ridiculous to have two players from the same country playing in the first round.
playing = present participle and obj is "two players.am i right?as obj related to "playing",so playing is present participle,right?
"to - infinite " can be a main verb o not?cannot right?
5)In the draw made yesterday for the last Super Series tournament, to be held in Basel from March 11- 16 and where Olympic qualifying points will be awarded, Chong Wei should have no problem overcoming South Korea’s Park Sung-hwan and Thailand’s Boonsak Ponsana in the first two rounds.
overcoming= gerund,am i right?
6)It will be the first real test for the second seeded Malaysian, who will then find himself facing either fourth seed Chen Jin of China, Peter-Gade Christensen of Denmark or unseeded Korean Lee Hyun-il in the semi-finals.
facing = gerund?
7)The same should have been done for the KL Open. I can accept facing Nicol in the quarter-finals ... but meeting her in the first round is just not fair,” said an annoyed Sharon.
facing = gerund?
8)But if Mew Choo can get her game up and running from the start, it will be difficult for others to break her momentum.
running =gerund?
9)China, boasting the world’s top five players, proved too powerful for Hong Kong, whose paddlers could offer little resistance to the Red Army, gunning for their eighth straight team title.
gunning= gerund?
10)Japan’s men, however, continued their fine form, producing some spectacular play in their quarter-final clash with Taiwan.
producing is gerund or present participle?
11)Alonso, the champion in 2005 and 2006, endured an acrimonious relationship with Hamilton at McLaren which ultimately led to the Spaniard returning to Renault after just one year.
returning= gerund?
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 楼主| 发表于 5-3-2008 11:57 AM | 显示全部楼层
12)KUALA LUMPUR: National men’s doubles specialist Tan Boon Heong can’t stand losing to the same opponents twice
losing = gerund?




13)In the British Open last year, Nicol failed in the defence of the title, losing to third seed Rachael Grinham of Australia in the final. She also failed in the defence of the World Open title, crashing to a second-round defeat by Shelley Kitchen of New Zealand.
losing = gerund,crashing = gerund?
for this,losing and crashing are gerund as "failed" is main verb for those two sentences,so lose and crash must be gerund rite?


if verb+ing is related to the obj,it is present participle,rite?
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 楼主| 发表于 5-3-2008 12:09 PM | 显示全部楼层
Sorry for alway bothering you........
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发表于 5-3-2008 12:43 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 hey_friends 于 5-3-2008 11:49 AM 发表
there is some questions here again,i hope you could answer me ,tq

1)i'm almost finished writing it.
writing = gerund,am i right?

2)This latest snub to Shevchenko leaves him in a familiar positi ...


1)i'm almost finished writing it.
writing = gerund,am i right?

2)This latest snub to Shevchenko leaves him in a familiar positi ... [/quote]

Yes,all of them are gerunds except the 2nd one is a singular verb.

This latest snub (to Shevchenko) leaves (does leave) him in a familiar position.

a)Althought they travel to London,knowing that a score draw will take them through.
b)Knowing that a score would take them through although they travel to London.
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发表于 5-3-2008 12:45 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 hey_friends 于 5-3-2008 11:16 AM 发表
As object cannot take verb,placing "was' in front of present participle is wrong.

"placing" is a gerund here.
"Object" is the subject and "verb' is the object.
And the object in the sentence does ...


Let see what if I don't put comma.
Object cannot take verb. Placing "was" in front of the present participle is wrong.

Understand now?
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 楼主| 发表于 6-3-2008 01:18 PM | 显示全部楼层
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 楼主| 发表于 6-3-2008 01:19 PM | 显示全部楼层
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 楼主| 发表于 6-3-2008 01:19 PM | 显示全部楼层
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 楼主| 发表于 6-3-2008 01:29 PM | 显示全部楼层
Yup!i get it.......tq
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 楼主| 发表于 6-3-2008 01:41 PM | 显示全部楼层
how to call 专用名词 in english?such as IP Address,pc and so on,only IT field's person know about what it is.
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 楼主| 发表于 6-3-2008 01:41 PM | 显示全部楼层
how to call 专用名词 in english?such as IP Address,pc and so on,only IT field's person know about what it is.
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