新加坡教会 牧师 康希被捕

JowY

weesoon 发表于 14-11-2015 10:49 PM
有时间吗 ?
很想听 !

沒什麼，就以前在此版吊康希被美麗叔叔不爽過

amnobody

weesoon 发表于 14-11-2015 10:52 PM
"他做的所有都是为了神的国度 !
只是技术上疏忽而已。"

屁啦！根本就是以宗教之名， 行欺骗之实！

美丽旅程

JowY 发表于 14-11-2015 10:45 PM
我突然感慨萬分

当康希案在法庭审讯的时候，有很多人就自己来未审先判。那些人以为自己比警方，法庭还要权威。
我不赞同他们庭外的审判，所以，我是异议分子。
现在，新加坡法庭判决了。有证据证明了康希是违法的。这是专业的审判，我们应该接受。
哈哈，那些庭外仙家猜中了。

JowY

美丽旅程 发表于 16-11-2015 12:54 PM
当康希案在法庭审讯的时候，有很多人就自己来未审先判。那些人以为自己比警方，法庭还要权威。
我不赞同 ...

法庭的定罪只是技術上的

還沒判的時候，人家已經大方承認用其他名義的捐款來資助何耀珊的「跨界」歌唱事業，還可以弄到教徒出來說就算沒有事先說明也沒有問題，他們不反對康希這麼做，企圖用這招來抗辯

只是檢控方精明抓着技術上的失誤猛打才成功定罪的

你又失明？

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外面流传的一篇文章
由很早期就在 city harvest 的教友所写。
当然他也已经离开了。
很长。。。。




By Geraldine Sim
“Extracted fromwww.gerashen.com”

I’ll probably receive some flak from City Harvest people – but through my years I’ve learnt that all they know is to spout out loud their blinded ‘opinions’.

People: They’re not opinions if you werebrainwashedinto it; that just makes it aninfluence over a weak mind.

I dare say this.
Why? Because I was one of them.

It was quite a number of years back, when I was still in secondary school. To be honest, I didn’t grow up in a happy home and endless hopes of getting out of my abyss was just part of my daily routine. While there were others who asked me to join their ‘gangs’, I didn’t want my daddy to look down from Heaven and be disappointed that he didn’t live long enough to love & protect me.

Soon enough I was invited to City Harvest Church and was quite intrigued by their style of worship. At that time, Charismatic churches weren’t very well-known in Singapore. So when songs had strong beats, fast rhythms and people grooving to them – it all seemed really new.

And deep down I wanted to believe that maybe, just maybe… They were thefamilythat I lost. Oh, how stupid I was.

It wasn’t too long before the whole hype of their music tuned down a little and other ugly things started to sprout.

Disclaimer: Whatever I share here is entirely my own experiences and from my perspective, which can be limited. So if you experienced anything otherwise or feel that I’m spouting nonsense – you’re welcome to leave. Thank you.

First, I’ll start withOFFERINGS.
Quite a norm of the church, yes? So unlike the typical church that lets you put in the money into the little pouches and pass it on – they make you put the money into envelopes,thenyou put it into the pouches.

I didn’t think too much about it at first, but slowly I began to question – “Whywas there this need?” Honestly it just didn’t make sense to spend money printing envelopes with the logos, etc. And the manpower spent inserting those envelopes to every newsletter (granted free labour, anyway).

Then one day I thought to myself, “It just seems like they want to obligate you to give. You were given a wrapping for a present; so therefore you feel you ought to give the present. It is also a way to monitor how much an average person gives during service. So why is there thisobligationwhen it’s supposed to be freewill?”

So the next service, I tried something out –I didn’t give an offering. Oh, badass!

Then my mentor (everyone is assigned one) looked at me when I just passed the pouch over, asking me why didn’t I give an offering. I said I have no more money left for the week, so can’t give anymore. After which, she gave averydisapproving glare.

After service at fellowship (dinner), the cell group leader requested to speak to me. He said he was informed that I didn’t give an offering because I had no more money left. Then he told me it was my duty to put aside money for God every week,it was to show God my love and sincerity in worshipping Him.

HAHAHA! Okay, I’m sorry. Right now I’m just laughing at how pathetic it sounds. But he really did say that! And at that age, I actually thought I did something gravely wrong to God. I failed to realise that it was between me & God.

The following week onwards, they monitored if I gave offerings closely. Even with the friendly reminder before service started.

Second,TITHINGS.
Somewhere in the bible it says something about giving God 10% of your fortune or harvest… Truthfully quite vague about this. I just know the 10%.

So then every month, you’re supposed to give 10% of your salary/allowance to the church – on top of offerings.

“Whatever you have, actually belongs to God. Even your money. But God is so magnanimous that He only wants 10% of it.” Remember those words crystal clear.

So like I said, I didn’t grow up in a happy home. Sometimes my remaining parent would not give me money or take what little savings I had – sometimes I had no money to even eat. Therefore giving away 10% was asking a lot of me.

And on those envelopes that give you for offerings are forms as well. There you will fill up your name, cell group number, contact number and amount you are giving for your tithe.

Yes, they monitor your tithings.

So quite a few times my cell group leader said he was notified that I didn’t give my tithing for this month, or my tithing seemed significantly lesser than usual.

Again – I bought into it and felt like I could do better for God. I failed to realise I wasn’t chasing God; I was stupidly chasing their approval for God knows what reason.

Third,PLEDGING MONIES.
Everyone should know more or less that the church has building funds. I was there when they just moved to the church in Jurong, near NTU. It was entirely brand new, nice facilities with obviously pricey construction. “Nothing but the best for God,” they said.

Then before I knew it, they had new ideas to build a stadium of some sort. Citing the rapid growth of church members as a reason. There was about a 20 to 30 minute speech on how we should contribute to building the house of God.

Nice words, eh?House of God. So of course I’d want to help!Pledge money that I rely on getting occasionally from concerned relatives? Sure!

What an idiot I was.

And the best part was that they even set a benchmark of how much theyencouragedeach church member to give. If I remember correctly, it was about $200 a month.

My mentor even sat down with me toplan outhow I can somehow give $200 every month – on top of 10% tithing and very compulsory offering… to build the house of God.

Then I started to think, “Am I just here to give them free money; buying the illusion of a family that I crave for?”

Fourth,GOD THE INVESTMENT BANKER.
Every time before offering, we were told this – if you give to God, God will give you back 10 times.

So even if you do not have much money, just give what little you have… And somehow God will multiply it and give it back to you.

They preached that God wants all of us to be rich. And also that “where your treasure is, there your heart will be also”. So therefore – to show your sincere love to God, you must give him your money.

I tried asking what if my treasure isn’t money? Then they said, “The bible meant money.”

Fifth,BRINGING IN NEW PEOPLE.
Every week we are expected to always bring in new people to service. ALWAYS expected to.

They even presented charts of who brought in new people and who didn’t. Those who didn’t were mildly humiliated, of course.

But it was really difficult and rather ironic. When I had too many close friends outside church, they were unhappy and told me that it was ungodly influence. I should surround myself with spiritual people.

Oh, but still must have a good enough relationship with these non-spiritual people to convince them to come to a religious event.

There was this time my mentor called another cell group member and myself to her house. There, she sat us both down and made us call each and every person on our handphone contact list – asking them to come to church. ‘No’ is not an answer.

If they were sick, we’d give a mask. If they were not free, plan the following weekend or the next. If they were not willing, ask why until they couldn’t give a legit reason.

I don’t know how many people I pissed off, how many friends I lost that day… but I know that month my phone bill was really high.And those people I called became even more guarded against anything to do with Christianity.

When we didn’t manage to get people, she scolded us. When I said this isn’t the right thing to do, she said I was being selfish and not sharing salvation. When my cell group member managed to get someone, they both said I didn’t care about this hard enough.

Then I asked, “What’s the point of bringing in people who are unwilling? Won’t this just shut their hearts to God even more when you force them like this?”

Needless to say, I was rebuked for not having child-like faith.

Sixth,ACCOUNTA

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Sixth,accountability.
Basically what happened here was my mentor was to be kept informed of my whereabouts at all times.

After school, what I was doing… Who I’m hanging out with… It was a tad invasive.

And I wasn’t allowed to meet boys. Other church members in the school were to tell immediately if any of us did something the church won’t approve of.

I was in a girls’ school, but somehow I still got to know boys through friends or sometimes the Internet. HoweverI wasn’t allowed to go out with boys because they do not approve of it. And according to them, I cannot start dating till I turned 21.

And when I asked the cell group leader, “Then why did you start dating your girlfriendat 16?” I was rebuked and told not to question my leader.

There was once I met this boy after school for a movie, it was supposed to be with another girl but she had to go home. So it was just the both of us. A cell group member in school saw and immediately informed our mentor, of which I quickly got a phone call to ask me what in the world I was doing.

Next service, I was rebuked again and I actually felt guilty for it even though I knew clearly he and I were just good friends.

I tried reasoning with my mentor that it didn’t start out this way, that the other girl was suddenly called to go home.

“Oh what a coincidence. How do I know that you’re speaking the truth? You always had boys, so maybe this was your way to go on a date. If it really wasn’t a date, you would’ve left when the other girl left as well. You don’t respect yourself.”

Seventh,buying Sun Ho’s albums.
Ah, everyone’s favourite.

So our pastor’s wife wanted to enter the music industry to preach the Word of God. Using songs to lead the people honestly didn’t sound like a bad idea.

Then it got to her albums. Every single person in church had to have her album. It was compulsory, really. If you didn’t have her album, then you don’t love your church family. And back then we still used portable CD players. Everyone was supposed to have the CD in their bags.

It seemed quite ridiculous to me at this point. Especially when they pushed us to buy several albums at service. Yes,severalcopies of theexact samealbum. Why? To give Sun Ho the support to spread the Word of God.

Everyone had to buy at least 3 to 5 albums. Cell group members collected money from the members to buy the albums. And told them to give the albums to other people to spread the Word.

Slowly, the number of albums each church member had to buy was increasing. Pastors and cell group leaders kept on pushing and pressurising everyone to buy the albums. It got to a point whereby another cell group member actually sold his car in order to buy more albums.

Eighth,Sun Ho’s crossovers.
True to her word, she did go overseas and preached the gospel through her concerts. She would sing some songs, share her testimony and call on people to receive Jesus as their one true saviour.

Every now and then we were shown numbers of souls she saved – tens of thousands at a time.

Then I asked, “Do these people have a church to go to, to continue building their relationship with God?”

“Not sure. We already shared the Word with them. It’s up to them now.”

“But without a spiritually supportive environment it’s easy to lose faith.Won’t they then be condemned to hell for knowing the Word but not believing in it?”

Yup. Got rebuked again.

Ninth,outcasting.
Back then there was a man (yes, Mr Roland Poon) who told the public about the church forcing members to buy Sun Ho’s albums, of which he was fiercely dealt with in church. His cell group leader and mentor rebuked him to no end, his cell group members ostracised him.

Of which then he was pressured to give a public apology to the church and was definitely treated differently. And to give due credit, Kong Hee did announce in service to forgive and accept him back.

However this social outcasting happened to me when Istarted asking questions. I started mentally calculating how much money the church was making (10% tithe + offerings of $2 at a conservative amount of per pax), it gave me a rather high number. After thinking through it all, I realised every month the church should have a bit of money left after operational costs. Then why did they constantly ask for moneyall the time? So how much were they paying the pastors? What else are they spending on? Shouldn’t the leftover money be put into the church’s own building fund, instead of asking for more from the people? Wasn’t the money given to God, for God’s people?

They also showed how well Sun Ho was doing overseas – claiming she was popular in Taiwan and America. Showing us hit charts where she was #1. To me, if she was so popular… Then why did the church make everyone buy about 9-12 albums each to support her? So with the help of the Internet, I went to look around. Only to find that every weekend I was buying into a scam. I chatted up some Americans on IRC and asked about Sun Ho, where 100% response I got was along the lines of, “Who the f**k is that?”

They said the money goes to God. Fantastic. So tell me, do youactuallygive the money to God? I’m sure our Earthly money means to nothing to Him, who is in Heaven. So if you don’tactuallygive the money to God… What on Earth do you spend on that you deem worthy enough to be ‘God’?

It was just downright ludicrous.

If they did things the public disapproved of, they’ll say that Jesus also faced this and they need to move on. The devil was fighting against them. Resistance meant they were doing the right thing.

If they did things the public approved of, they’ll shout Hallelujah and how they are bringing God to the world.

In full honesty, they did very good marketing right there. They brainwashed the people into believing every single thing they did, no matter what other facts might state. The people in the church aren’t the bad guys – they were just steered the wrong direction.

To me, I saw the devil doing an excellent job there. I saw so many people leave and strongly shutting their hearts away from the very idea of God. And I saw how those people in church don’t worship God; they worship Kong Hee and the prosperity gospel they’re fed.

Feeling frustrated and powerless, I left and prayed, “God, if You do exist – please save these people.”

I’m thankful for the strength Mr Roland Poon found to stand up for what he believes in, despite all the opposing forces. And I’m glad that at least there’s a little justice out there.

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法官將在明天(11月20日)早上9時半判刑


新加坡城巿豐收教會案歷時三年，終在上月21日宣判，包括主任牧師康希及副主任陳一平牧師在內的六名教會領袖被判罪名成立。法官將在明天(11月20日)早上9時半判刑。

控方已提交有關刑罰建議的書面陳詞，要求六名被告判監5至12年不等，其中建議案件最重要人物主任康希牧師、副主任陳一平牧師和教會前基金經理周英漢周英漢判處入獄11至12年。周英漢對此回應說：「我不會求情，我堅持抗辯立場，亦準備上訴。」

在判決結果宣判後，城巿豐收教會表示：「雖然法官今日宣佈的裁決令許多人失望，會友們對過去三年來一直在領導CHC的團隊和教會董事有信心。」並指教會仍然會繼續前進。

教會作好暫時失去主任康希牧師的準備。康希牧師的妻子、判決前兩天突然被按立成為牧師的何耀珊說：「自2012年起，教會的運作一直由新的管理層與教會董事執行，康牧師也沒有扮演任何執行角色——他一直專注於牧養關懷和講道，而且沒有參與任何決策。」

她又說：「雖然我們會想念他的貢獻，但教會沒有康牧師的參與一直都順利運作。在這之後，這個管理團隊和教會董事會依然會負責帶領教會進入CHC 2.0。」

六名教會領袖被控在2007年至2009年期間，通過教會認購兩家公司思創和Firna 2400萬新元債券為掩蓋挪用教會的建堂基金，當中包括1300萬新元用於康希妻子、歌手何耀珊的英語唱片上。告們堅稱這是教會的跨界計劃一部份——用流行音樂的方式向青年一代傳福音，然而未被法官接納。

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康希的接班人-----何耀珊



康希牧师和其他五位城市丰收教会(City Harvest Church，以下简称CHC)领袖挪用教会数百万资金支持何耀珊流行音乐事业被判罪名成立数天前，创始人之一何耀珊被按立为牧师。

《新加坡雅虎新闻》发布了现场照片和一则康希牧师分享的按立视频，按牧显然发生在10月19日。

报道称，“两分钟的视频显示何耀珊接受来自纽约教会学院(Christian Colleg)的迈克尔·斯凯尔斯(Michael Scales)以及丈夫康希的按手，康希也是滥用教会资金资助何耀珊歌唱生涯被判有罪的六位领袖之一。”

视频显示何耀珊跪在地上，举着双手，康希牧师为她按手祈祷。

“我祷告她说话，腹中有火出来，”牧师说。

康希进一步请求信徒为教会下一代领袖祈祷，说：“耀珊与新世代的领导团队一起为CHC2.0努力时，请继续为他们祷告！”


1989年，康希和何耀珊创立CHC教会，并带领其成为新加坡最大的教会之一。

康希及其他五名CHC会友因挪用逾3500万美元的教会奉献基金，投资给负责何耀珊在美国歌唱事业的管理公司思创(Xtron)被判有罪，将面临高达20年的刑期。

何耀珊并未在此案中受审，整个过程中一直支持丈夫和其他领导人，在有罪判决后称她仍然相信神的安排。

“在之前的两年调查与三年审讯中，我们一直信靠神，并相信不论结果如何，神会使用它叫我们得益处（罗马书8章28节）；现今也不例外。这漫长的时期的确非常艰巨，不单单是对这六人而言，也包括他们的家人朋友和我们的教会会众。 ”

雅虎表示，作为在CHC牧师，何耀珊将不负责为信徒提供咨询和建议。

康希目前正在等待公诉人向法院提交书面材料，判决预计将在11月20日宣布。

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精彩的按立过程

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http://www.channel8news.sg/news8/latestnews/20151120-sg-city-harvest/2277560.html

备受关注的城市丰收教会领导人失信案今天可能判刑，大批公众与支持者今早就在国家法院外排队。今天控方将对刑罚进行口头陈词，而法官可能在今天或之后判刑。

六名被告康希、陈一平、周英汉、陈绍云、黄玉音以及林岭恒上个月21日被判罪名成立。控方吁法官判四名被告，即康希、陈一平、黄玉音和周英汉，坐牢11至12年；另外建议判决林岭恒坐牢8到9年，陈绍云坐牢5到6年。

由于案情令人瞩目，自昨晚10点半起，法院外就有公众排队，希望能进入法庭内，聆听判决。工作人员今天早上7点15分，开始发放通行证给排队的公众，其中50张通行证为早上使用，50张则为下午使用。

一名不愿透露姓名的排队公众说：“在审讯进行期间，我曾做个几个梦，在审讯初期，我有四个关于康希的梦，全部都是正面的。这些梦到底是来自魔鬼还是上帝，有意识或潜意识的，我想来这里看梦境是否会出现。”


- CH8/YA

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http://www.channel8news.sg/news8/latestnews/20151120-sg-chc/2277982.html



城市丰收教会领导人失信案：六名被告律师求法官轻判

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城市丰收教会领导人失信案，今天可能判刑。辩方上午已就六名被告的刑罚，进行了口头陈述。

教会创办人康希的律师表示，康希挪用教会公款，是为了资助妻子何耀珊的跨界计划项目，目的是为了传教，无意对教会造成伤害。

律师也说，康希感到懊悔，过去五年的审讯已给他的家人带来精神压力，他担心80多岁的父母无法承受，他的10岁孩子也需看心理医生，并已经退学。

被控三项挪用公款罪名的前教会管委林岭恒的律师则表示，林岭恒只是一名协调者，他选择相信领导人康希。他过去几年，也以义工的身份帮忙教会，并同妻子捐了32万4000元给教会作为慈善。

六名被告上个月已被判罪名成立，除了罚款，他们也可能坐牢长达20年。审讯还在进行当中。

- CH8/KX

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控方：康希罪责应最重

（联合早报网讯）作为其他被告马首是瞻的精神领袖，康希的罪责应是所有被告中最重的。

城市丰收教会一案今天下午料将下判。在代表律师进行陈词后，控方开始陈词并指出上述说法。

控方指出，如果涉及失信罪名的被告将被判处不同刑期，最大的区别应该是在康希和其他被告之间。

对于康希的悔意，控方指出，康希虽然已对案件向教会会员道歉，但他只是对整起案件道歉，而没有对他个人在其中扮演的主要角色而道歉。

控方促请法官判康希（51岁）、陈一平（43岁）、教会前投资经理周英汉（55岁）和教会前财务经理黄玉音（38岁）各11至12年监禁。对于财务经理陈绍云（39岁）和时管委会成员的林岭恒（47岁），控方则促请法官分别判五至六年，以及八至九年。

（联合早报网编辑： 明永昌 )

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城市丰收案 下午3时起宣判

城市丰收案现休庭，施奇恩法官宣布，将在今天下午3时开始宣判。

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康希入狱8年。。。。

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城市丰收教会案 康希判8年

（联合早报网讯）城市丰收教会创会牧师康希被判八年监禁，黄玉音被判坐牢五年。

国家法院首席法官施奇恩今天下午3时许，对断断续续审理了两年半的城市丰收教会一案做出判决。

牧师陈一平（43岁）被判五年半。

教会前投资经理周英汉（55岁）被判六年。

教会前财务经理黄玉音（38岁）被判五年。林岭恒（47岁）被判三年。陈绍云（39岁）被判21个月。

城市丰收案六名被告将在明年1月11日起开始服刑

施奇恩说，康希是城市丰收教会的精神领袖，也是案件中的跨界项目的主导者，因此是被告中罪责最重的。

他也指出，刑罚须达到一定的阻吓作用，但也不能过重。此外，被告没有将钱款用于个人利益，也没有给教会造成损失，这也是判刑考量。

六名被告各面对三至十项控状，上月21日被判全部罪名成立。控方促请法官判康希、陈一平、教会前投资经理周英汉和教会前财务经理黄玉音各11至12年监禁。对于财务经理陈绍云和时管委会成员的林岭恒，控方则促请法官分别判五至六年，以及八至九年。

牧师康希等被告的代表律师今早陈词时指出，本案虽然涉及金额巨大，但不应只因此而加重刑罚，并吁请法官减轻判刑。康希和陈一平的代表律师也呈堂大量信徒和当事人亲友等人的求情信，当中多人感念两位牧师对他们的恩德，请求法官轻判。

控方强调，这是本地有史以来涉及最大金额的善款失信案，引发公众不安。被告是有预谋地进行，使用复杂手段，而且还“利用更加狡猾的欺骗手法，企图蒙骗过关”。控方说，失信善款的行为必须受到严惩。

本案涉及金额高达2400万元，被告先是通过教会认购唱片制作公司Xtron Productions的1300万元债券，以及会员哈纳菲的玻璃制品厂The First National Glassware（简称Firna）1100万元债券集资，来应付何耀珊的高额制作费。

（联合早报记者：王舒杨）

zhenxijingtian

这样的结果都是预料之中，
坐牢是必定，
坐牢几年内看他
会不会看见自己错失。
可惜其他人成为其牺牲品。

cmf_JDAM

从开始我就把这场官司当成 欺诈/失信案来看待。康希根本就把教会当成一门生意， 或许他根本没信过耶稣。

zhenxijingtian

始终感觉到他的私心，
私自滥用公款，
他自称是因为上帝的国度。
建立的是自己的教会，
现在坐牢前赶紧按立自己妻子，
他还可以在背后遥控，
本人是很佩服他的聪明。

祈祷他在坐牢里有耶稣的光照，
让他重新认识耶稣，
那一天他悔改出来就像圣经里的浪子回头，
让天父拥抱在怀里！

weesoon

calebdong 发表于 24-10-2014 01:46 PM
各位朋友们，我们都相信有神。所以我觉得此事我们不能下结论或给予任何的言论，因为我们不是法官也不是神， ...

大哥, 现在已经判了8年。
出来写点想法和感言叻 !

JowY

合理的判決

這案真的審了有夠久的了