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现在的人阅读圣经都犯了什么错误?

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发表于 30-9-2007 01:45 PM | 显示全部楼层
和大家分享这句:
John 16:13 When the spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.
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 楼主| 发表于 30-9-2007 01:45 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 ubiquitous 于 30-9-2007 01:42 PM 发表
外面的问号是什么意思?我不懂。
什么意思??什么外面的问好?
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 楼主| 发表于 30-9-2007 01:47 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 ubiquitous 于 30-9-2007 01:43 PM 发表
对了,你用什么圣经译本?有多少本圣经,多少译本?
一本厚厚,厚到可以砸死人的NIV(里面有每段经文的解释,亲戚在SUFES 书局买来送我的)

还有一本和合本,小本的那种,朋友送的
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 楼主| 发表于 30-9-2007 01:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 ubiquitous 于 30-9-2007 01:37 PM 发表
每次读经前先祷告,会有帮助的。我以前也不会真确的读经,但是我祷告,后来遇到一位弟兄,才学会的。这是神的应许哦!感谢主。
对。。。每次都有祈祷先的。。。不过现在很懒惰阅读BIBLE
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发表于 30-9-2007 02:44 PM | 显示全部楼层

回复 #23 daimon 的帖子

我想是Zondervan NIV study bible吧!很不错哦。最新的,应该是3rd Ed.
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 楼主| 发表于 30-9-2007 02:53 PM | 显示全部楼层
我的是LIFE APPLICATION STUDY BIBLE~ LIMITED ANNIVERSARY EDITION
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发表于 30-9-2007 02:58 PM | 显示全部楼层
不过我建议你买多一本圣经译本,可以用e-sword的ESV和The Message,还有NLT(有两个Edition, 1996 & 2004),还有NRSV,可以的话买NRSV对UBS 3rd Edition原文,或NRSV的study bible。

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 楼主| 发表于 1-10-2007 11:11 AM | 显示全部楼层
哇。。。想想下如果真的要真正的掌握圣经的精华不是要经过很长和很深入的研究。。。-_-"
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发表于 1-10-2007 11:27 AM | 显示全部楼层

回复 #28 daimon 的帖子

是的,如果像快点的话,可以专攻新约,或甚至只是Romans,因为大部分神学是从这本书来的
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发表于 1-10-2007 01:06 PM | 显示全部楼层
THE METHOD OF BIBLICAL THEOLOGY
Inductive Study
The study leading to biblical theology must be inductive (although an incomplete induction). The emphasis on inductive study means that the categories, themes, motifs, and conceits must be exegetically derived from the biblical texts. The exegete must come to the text as much as possible without preconceived mental, logical, or philosophical schemes as the molds into which biblical knowledge is poured so that it comes out bearing his mold. This will contrast with dogmatic theology.

To avoid arbitrariness, proof‑texting, and selectivity, the basic view of each biblical writer must be ascertained. From this investigation of separate books, longitudinal themes that unify the Old Testament can be discovered.


Deductive Presentation
The presentation of biblical theology must be deductive. It is not just a retelling of the parts (as von Rad does), but is the organized theology of the Old Testament.

The presentation should set forth the historical development of each category. Certainly consideration should be given to the separate times of divine revelation-‑prior to the founding of the nation, at the founding of the nation under Moses, then the time. of judges, monarchy, captivity and return. The next step in the development would be the relationship to the New Testament.
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发表于 1-10-2007 01:13 PM | 显示全部楼层
The following list of Waltke’s central theological ideas of each Old Testament  give you something to go on in your study, and they show you what we mean by biblical theological ideas rather than systematic theological ideas (which would be the result of incorporating this material from the whole Bible into broader categories). Some of these are written as topics; to be more helpful, they should be stated in full sentences that express the theological point of the book.

I.          THE PENTATEUCH (Moses): The Founding of the Theocracy: “The Rule of God over all Creation."

A.        GENESIS: The origins behind the founding of the theocracy: the promised blessing of the seed in the land.

B.         EXODUS: The redemption of the seed of Abraham out of bondage and the granting of a constitution to them.

C.        LEVITICUS: The manual or ordinances enabling the holy Yahweh to live in residence among his people, making them holy (cf. Lev. 26:11‑12).

D.        NUMBERS: The cultic laws of the camp in motion: the military arrangement and census of the tribes and the transport of the sacred palladium: the promised blessing cannot be frustrated from within or from without.

E.         DEUTERONOMY: The covenant renewed in legal‑prophetic form.

II. THE PROPHETS
A.        THE FORMER PROPHETS:
1.         JOSHUA: The historical fulfillment of Yahweh’s promise made to the patriarchs and Moses to give Israel the land by holy war (cf. 1:2‑6, 11:23; 21:43).

2.         JUDGES: The failure of theocracy under the Judges and the necessity of kingship.

3.         SAMUEL: The establishment of a human monarchy over the theocracy.

4.         KINGS: The failure of theocracy under monarchy: the kings of Israel and Judah could govern others but could not rule themselves.

B.         THE MAJOR PROPHETS:
1.         ISAIAH: The holy God will not permit unholiness in his people, and will therefore deal with them in such a way as to chasten and purge them and make them fit to participate in his program of extending his rule over the Gentiles (includes first the remedial discipline under Gentiles, and second, the promise of the covenant that cannot be frustrated).

2.         JEREMIAH: Jerusalem will fall if the people will not repent; nevertheless, God's rule is assured through a new covenant.

3.         EZEKIEL: The fall of Jerusalem and the Babylonian captivity are necessary measures for the God of glory to employ to correct his disobedient people; but “the day is coming when Jehovah will restore a repentant remnant of his chastened people and establish them in a glorious latter‑day theocracy with a new temple” (Archer).

C.        THE MINOR PROPHETS:
1.         HOSEA: In spite of Israel’s unfaithfulness, Yahweh’s faithful love will prevail.

2.         JOEL: Divine judgment is to be visited upon Israel in the day of Yahweh.

3.         AMOS: Yahweh is faithful to his covenant and to his law.

4.         JONAH: While Israel is an ineffective servant under discipline, the sovereign Yahweh preaches salvation to the Gentiles through his prophetic messenger.

5.         OBADIAH: Yahweh will revenge Israel against Edom.

6.         MICAH: The necessary product of saving faith is social reform and practical holiness based on the righteousness    and sovereignty of God.

7.         NAHUM: Nineveh will fall for her cruelty and immorality because Yahweh is mighty.

8.         HABAKKUK: The just live by faith in the face of apparent difficulties hindering the fulfillment of God's promises.

9.         ZEPHANIAH: Yahweh is firmly in control of all his world despite any contrary appearances, and  he will prove this in the near future by the Day of Yahweh including immediate and distant chastisement upon all the disobedient is clear.

10.       HAGGAI: Seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all these things shall be added to YOU

11.       ZECHARIAH: Visions and oracles about Israel’s purification and restoration as God’s priestly nation in the glorious future.

12.       MALACHI: Yahweh will come quickly with fire and with rewards to purify his theocracy.

III. THE HAGIOGRAPHA:
A.        PSALMS: The. psalmists set forth Yahweh as king of the universe who is establishing his just rule upon the earth in and through his people; they pray for its realization and exhort praise and trust in Yahweh (McDaniel).

B.         JOB: The suffering must learn to live by faith in the sovereign creator and ruler of the cosmos.

C.        PROVERBS: A collection of maxims to give the student instruction in the skill of living a practical, righteous, and productive life.

D.        RUTH: Yahweh sovereignly, but in a hidden way, effects the birth of his king.

E.         SONG OF SOLOMON: A celebration in song of the joyful reunion of sexes in marriage.

F.         ECCLESIASTES: In spite of the apparent futility involved in man’s existence, he will live life skillfully by trusting God’s sovereignty, goodness, and justice.

G.        LAMENTATIONS: A song lamenting the destruction of Jerusalem with hope for the future based on God’s faithfulness.

H.        ESTHER: An illustration of the vicissitudes of Abraham's physical but not spiritual seed.

I.          DANIEL: A panorama view of Israel's history while subjugated by the Gentile world powers until the time of the Kingdoms.

J.          EZRA‑NEHEMIAH: An account of the establishment of the theocracy during Gentile oppression.

K.        CHRONICLES: A history of Israel designed to arouse support for the theocracy during Gentile oppression.
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发表于 1-10-2007 01:16 PM | 显示全部楼层
还有chronological method,可以用chronological bible,我上次去书局看到有一本是NLT的。或者用bible guide提供的,e-sword里有gospel harmony
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 楼主| 发表于 1-10-2007 01:33 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 ubiquitous 于 1-10-2007 01:06 PM 发表
THE METHOD OF BIBLICAL THEOLOGY
Inductive Study
The study leading to biblical theology must be inductive (although an incomplete induction). The emphasis on inductive study means that the categ ...
这我不知道它在讲什么
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发表于 2-10-2007 10:20 AM | 显示全部楼层
e-sword里还有Jesus from seven sources和History of the Christian Church可以读,还有其他都不错的读物。
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发表于 2-10-2007 10:22 AM | 显示全部楼层

回复 #33 daimon 的帖子

是圣经神学,另一种是系统神学,可以找这些书来读,对了解圣经有帮助。
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 楼主| 发表于 2-10-2007 07:22 PM | 显示全部楼层

回复 #34 ubiquitous 的帖子

哇。。。e sword这样厉害的哦
不过全部英文很难咧,要查DIC。
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 楼主| 发表于 2-10-2007 08:22 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 ubiquitous 于 2-10-2007 10:22 AM 发表
是圣经神学,另一种是系统神学,可以找这些书来读,对了解圣经有帮助。
可以用中文大概解释解释那篇东西下吗?
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发表于 2-10-2007 10:46 PM | 显示全部楼层
希望UBI你能一个一个解释第二楼所有的东西。。。嘻嘻
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发表于 3-10-2007 11:07 AM | 显示全部楼层
给点时间,尽量试试,不敢保证能翻译到很好。
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发表于 3-10-2007 11:26 AM | 显示全部楼层

回复 #38 kamwah 的帖子

为什么叫我‘ubi'?
缩写请用 ubiq 会比较好。
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