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 楼主| 发表于 16-8-2015 09:22 PM | 显示全部楼层
马来剑 发表于 16-8-2015 03:43 PM
吃饭钱都没有了,大家就别淫意吧

对啊
有谎话支持的那吉在,都跌破RM4了
现在阵风单价怕要RM11亿了
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 楼主| 发表于 18-8-2015 03:37 PM | 显示全部楼层
detectivebinbin 发表于 22-7-2015 02:43 PM
無法獲得的那8項全都是迫切需要的~唉~若26億+18億+420億用作國防用途應該綽綽有餘吧~



谎话偶像下台前,熊雄签下天价单子,那也不是不可能

MRCA: Special Funding and Advanced Negotiations

SHAH ALAM: Reuters made a big splash on July 28 when it reported that Malaysia was on the verge of buying the Dassault Rafale. The story stated that Malaysia and France are “advanced negotiations” for the sale of the Rafale fighters.
This should have been posted earlier but I was distracted by the chase to land the Starstreak story.
Anyhow, reading the Reuters story one might be forgiven to think that a deal for the Rafale was imminent, though the story also cautioned that the Malaysian deal might be delayed due to fiscal troubles.
The Reuters report:
“By Cyril Altmeyer
(Reuters) – France is confident of winning two more foreign orders for its Rafale fighter jet by the beginning of next year as it seeks to extend a spate of recent export successes, a source familiar with the matter said on Tuesday.
Rafales in Egyptian Air Force colours. Rafale
After failing for years to win an order for its warplane, France has sold 24 Rafales each to Egypt and Qatar in recent months and is in talks to finalise the sale of another 36 to India.
“There should be two other export contracts for the Rafale by the beginning of next year,” not including India, the source said.
“The most advanced discussions are with Malaysia and the UAE,” the source added.
In a further development, the source said that France was negotiating with India for options to supply further aircraft on top of the 36 Rafales the country has provisionally agreed to buy.
In April, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi said he had ordered 36 “ready-to-fly” Rafale fighters to modernise his country’s warplane fleet, dealing directly with the French government after three years of inconclusive negotiations with the plane’s manufacturer, Dassault.
India has signaled any further purchases will come though government channels, raising doubts over the future of the stalled commercial negotiations with Dassault for 126 jets
COMPETITION
The recent spate of Rafale export orders has shaken up the global defence market and given fresh momentum to the French warplane as available production slots begin to dwindle.
Analysts and diplomats say the appetite for the jets has also risen as a result of the United States’ diminishing influence in the Arab world along with wider security concerns.
However, Dassault still faces tough competition from U.S. and European rivals.
Advanced Super Hornet. Boeing photo
Kuwait is expected to announce soon an order for 28 Boeing F/A-18 E/F Super Hornets, a $3 billion-plus deal that will keep the jets’ St. Louis production line running well into 2019, according to people familiar with the deal.
Malaysia, which wants to replace its fleet of Russian MiG-29 fighters, is looking at the Rafale, the F/A-18, Swedish firm Saab’s Gripen and the Eurofighter Typhoon.
Typhoon taking off with the latest P2E software, recently, BAE Systems
While a Malaysian decision had been expected this year, aviation industry executives have warned that fiscal troubles due to lower oil and commodities prices could lead to delays in placing the order.
Indonesia, which needs to replace ageing U.S.-built F-5s, is reported to be studying the Rafale, Eurofighter and Russia’s Sukhoi Su-35 as well as Sweden’s Gripen and the Lockheed Martin F-16. The Eurofighter consortium comprises Airbus Group , representing Germany and Spain, Italy’s Finmeccanica and Britain’s BAE Systems. (Reporting by Cyril Altmeyer; Writing by Tim Hepher; Editing by Michel Rose and Pravin Char).- Reuters.
I am not blaming the reporter – I have been in the same situation before – but relying on a source which- is obviously a patriotic French person carries a lot of risk. That said I am not saying that Malaysia is not in advanced negotiations with the French over the MRCA programme.
Indeed a couple of my industry sources confirmed such talks are on-going. However what the anonymous source failed to inform Reuters is the fact that the advanced negotiations are also being conducted with two other countries namely the US and UK for the sale of what else, the Super Hornet and the Typhoon.
Dassault recently delivered 3 Rafales to Egypt. Dassault
So in reality, if we live in a perfect world, we could be signing for the Typhoon or the Super Hornet and not just the Rafale. But that is the reality of it, with the Rafale seeming on song a well timed leak always create the bigger buzz.
Buzz notwithstanding, my sources pointed out that the countries which had chosen the Rafale in recent months – Qatar, Egypt and India – are all long term operators of Dassault fighters so it was not conceivable that they would again choose a French fighter for their needs. And Malaysia is not.
Advanced Super Hornet
They pointed out that another air force which had considerable experience with US fighters, Kuwait Air Force looked increasingly likely to choose the Super Hornets to replace its legacy Hornet fleet. Although Typhoon is also competing for the same deal, my sources again pointed out the Kuwaiti experience with US support and maintenance would probably be a tipping factor for the Super Hornets.
It is for this reason, they said the Super Hornet was probably the favourite for the MRCA programme with the two European fighters lagging behind. Could the Rafale or Typhoon be chosen, instead, of course, my sources said.
One thing going against the Rafale at the moment is – ironically – its own recent successes. Even India with 36 Rafales selected, though not signed, are fearing that its aircraft will not be delivered on its schedule. The supply bottleneck will be further exacerbated if the UAE – another operator of legacy Dassault fighters – finally decides to go French again and signed the contract before the Indians!
Typhoon with P2E soiftware taking off for a flight test recently. BAE Systems
However, in the case of both the Super Hornet and Typhoon, the aircraft could be delivered quickly to Malaysia if the contract is signed in the immediate future as the production line is much more fluid at the moment thought it will not be so forever. Indeed Dassault had indicated it will ramped up production of the Rafale to meet the new orders but at the moment, the French air force and navy are taking a back seat due to the export sales.
Anyhow, so why we are negotiating for the MRCA when it is not listed under the RMK11 funding? The title of this post of course; Special Funding.
Although call Special Funding, if exercised, it will become part of the Security sector allocation of RMK11 or specifically defence. Huh? Yes even though the current allocation for RMK11 for the security sector does not include funds for the MRCA programme, if the Special Funding is passed, it will be added later under the plan as part of the mid-term review.
For example, if the allocation for the security sector for RMK11 is RM16 billion (a hypothetical figure of course as it had not been announced), by adding RM2 billion for the MRCA, the final allocation will be RM18 billion. As usual any shortfall for the programme could be covered in the next Malaysian plan or the next (you get my drift)
As it is not a firm funding yet, it is called “special”. It must be noted that such special funding had been done in the past and its not specifically meant for the security sector only. It could also and had been given to other sectors including education or any other needs that the government sees fit.
Will the Finance Ministry commit to the special funding, which will allow for the signing of a deal within one year or so (according to my sources)? I am still not convinced yet. With historic low oil and commodity prices coupled with a declining Ringgit and the current political imbroglio, I am not too optimistic.
We could however be blessed with a couple of billions in donations of course, but the donor must specifically stated MRCA for that to occur. I am willing to be the person to receive the donation, as my contribution to national service. My email is in the About page (in case any one with a couple of billions to spare is reading this).
Anyhow check back with Malaysian Defence on regular basis, hopefully I will get more updates on the MRCA programme.
— Malaysian Defence

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 楼主| 发表于 18-8-2015 03:39 PM | 显示全部楼层
梦魇蝴蝶 发表于 11-8-2015 09:26 AM
不考虑这个东西么
http://www.bilibili.com/video/av2712914/



话说阿联酋明年可能会买天价阵风
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发表于 19-8-2015 12:49 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
cyberjaye 发表于 4-8-2015 01:42 PM
silent hornet好像不便宜喔
不过当然比天价阵风便宜很多

问题是 advanced super hornet美国卖吗?
连他自己的海军都还没换上的战机哪里会卖给我们?

况且growler的电子装备太敏感了,美国应该不会放full specs给我们
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发表于 19-8-2015 12:51 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
cyberjaye 发表于 18-8-2015 03:39 PM
话说阿联酋明年可能会买天价阵风

阿联酋有钱,买一堆军备送人或放着丢都不要紧。

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 楼主| 发表于 20-8-2015 11:04 PM | 显示全部楼层
梦魇蝴蝶 发表于 11-8-2015 09:26 AM
不考虑这个东西么
http://www.bilibili.com/video/av2712914/

中国火箭炮威力超过美俄火箭炮


印度《经济时报》网站8月17日发表题为《中国人民解放军说,其火箭炮威力超过美俄火箭炮》的报道称,中国人民解放军宣称,其炮兵部队的火箭炮能打击150公里以外的目标,在自动化和火力方面远超美国和俄罗斯的火箭炮,能给敌人带来“金属风暴”般的打击。


报道称,解放军某炮兵旅一位叫王培成(音)的远程火箭炮营教导员说,该营每门火箭炮的威力与装备传统火炮的整个营相当。解放军是世界上规模最大的军事力量。

王教导员说,火箭炮一发炮弹能够覆盖相当于数个足球场大小的区域,而一门火箭炮能在数分钟内发射10发以上的炮弹。

报道称,王说,归功于严格的训练,目前该营的命中率几乎和地对地导弹相当。他说,所有这些意味着任何敌人遭打击后都难活命。

中国军队的远程火箭炮曾于2009年在天安门广场举行的阅兵式上公开亮相。

远程多管火箭炮是作为人民解放军地对地打击武库的有效补充列装的,该武库主要由战术导弹和传统火炮组成。

据上述远程火箭炮营的指挥官介绍,这种火箭炮的最大射程为150公里。

相比之下,俄罗斯BM-30式“龙卷风”多管火箭炮的最大射程约为90公里,美国M-270多管火箭炮的最大射程约为70公里。

上述炮兵旅训练部门负责人说,远程火箭炮营将继续提升作战能力,时刻准备给敌人带来“金属风暴”般的打击。

该旅旅长杨国斌表示,与外国军队使用的多管火箭炮相比,中国军队的多管火箭炮在自动化和火力方面更胜一筹,可以说这种武器是人民解放军地面部队威力最大的战术威慑力量之一。

报道称,当该营2009年装备多管火箭炮时,这种新式武器似乎过于先进,许多士兵不得不放下传统火炮知识,几乎从零开始学习如何操纵火箭炮。

杨国斌说,该营装备这种先进武器后参加了一系列演习。他说,该营最近在演习中发射的近百发炮弹全部击中目标,这意味着该营命中率达到顶尖水平。

他说,为了使这种先进武器适应各种作战环境,如沿海地区、高原和山区,该营已出台多项作战部署计划。
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cyberjaye 发表于 20-8-2015 03:04 PM
中国火箭炮威力超过美俄火箭炮

媒体断章取义的报道,有些话军官是不可能说的。PLA列装的火箭炮确实比美俄强,也确实优势明显,但没有文章中说的那么夸张,由于费效比和成本控制的原因,PLA装备的火箭炮远不如外贸火箭炮先进。
火箭炮是消耗品,要求使用成本低,能够大规模流水线生产,过于先进的火箭炮是不能满足这两点的。
经常上军展上新闻的火箭炮PLA一款都没有装备,开发出来就是为了出口。
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 楼主| 发表于 21-8-2015 01:05 AM | 显示全部楼层
梦魇蝴蝶 发表于 21-8-2015 12:58 AM
媒体断章取义的报道,有些话军官是不可能说的。PLA列装的火箭炮确实比美俄强,也确实优势明显,但没有文 ...

最先进的还能打潜艇
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 楼主| 发表于 31-8-2015 09:22 PM | 显示全部楼层
edmund47 发表于 27-7-2015 11:55 PM
我还是比较喜欢台风。

有那么多钱的话,海军都可以换新船增加潜艇然后在没艘大船上安装导弹了。哪里像 ...



跟据马哈林的分析,目前除了对大型舰的功击能力是天价阵风占优, 其他大部份RMAF的评估都是台风占优!



MRCA: Typhoon and RafaleMarhalim Abas August 27, 2015 Malaysia - RMAF
SHAH ALAM: TYPHOON or the Rafale? With the visit of the French Defence Minister to Malaysia coming so soon (this Sunday Aug 30, 2015), on the heels of the visit of UK Prime Minister David Cameron and his Defence Procurement Minister Philip Dunne I thought it would be timely to take a look at the two acknowledged front runners in the MRCA programme.
The RMAF have, its understood from sources close to programme being having a more in depth look at both Eurofighter Typhoon and Rafale – particularly with regards to the maturity of the technology that both parties are offering. Apart from the Typhoon and Rafale, the other official contenders of the MRCA is the Boeing Super Hornet and the Saab Gripen NG.
Whilst at first glance it appears that the Rafale is more mature, its been deployed on operations in North Africa (Libya, Mali and Chad), and has a current Maritime Strike Capability – stated by the RMAF as a day 1 requirement – when you scratch the surface of the proposal its not quite that clear cut.
A French Navy Rafale taking off with the single Exocet missile.
The Rafale on offer to the RMAF is the F3R standard. This is the same standard as Qatar has ordered, however the technological maturity of this variant is understood to have been assessed by RMAF as Technology Readiness Level 5 (TRL5). The TRL levels run from 1 (a bright idea) to 9 (operational service).
TRL 5 would suggest that components are currently being lab tested. That is a very long way from prototype test flying, and then operational maturity and productionisation. On the surface there would appear to be considerable risk to the time-frames because of the required development.
On Eurofighter, the RMAF has been offered the the latest Tranche 3 model. RMAF pilots are believed to have been unable to fly the Tranche 3, however. This is because only Single Seat variants have been ordered by the UK’s Royal Air Force, although it has been ordered in the twin seater variant by Germany. (UK is responsible for the marketing to Malaysia).
The Tranche 3 have now begun production deliveries across Europe and is going into front line service with the Eurofighter nations of UK, Spain, Italy and Germany. The Typhoon is therefore at TRL 9, albeit there may be some additional systems that RMAF wants, such as Maritime Strike, that we will explore the maturity of later in this piece.
Electronically scanned (AESA) radar is another point of interest. Whilst Rafale is already fitted with an early generation ‘AESA’ which came from a 2007 AMSAR project (which incidently included France and the Eurofighter nations in a common programme), the development programme over at Eurofighter, led by Euroradar, a European consortium headed by Selex, continued.
It added a number of a number of additional strands, including critically that of a repositioner. Nose size would also seem important in the ASEA technology field. The nose size of Eurofighter Typhoon is significantly greater than that of Rafale. This allows not just for the repositioner but also allows significantly more antennas and receivers.
Typhoon with the AESA radar
These are key to not just projecting power from the Radar, but picking up returns, making the Eurofighter Typhoon AESA potential significantly more potent than its French counterpart. So whilst the Brits appear to have taken their time it would appear that it was worth the wait. The TRL level for the Captor-E radar is assessed at full maturity, TRL9, with integration onto Eurofighter Typhoon at TRL 7 [Prototype flying].
The Captor-E radar, offering something like 3 times the coverage of the Rafale radar offered on F3R, is now in production and will be in service in 2018, meaning it would be available day 1 for the RMAF.
On Weapons the comparison is again striking. Both platforms offer the joint European developed Meteor Beyond Visual Range Air to Air weapon, so we will leave that at rest.
Maritime Strike is an interesting question. Again, it appears that on the face of it Rafale is superior. It has Exocet in its arsenal, and is being marketed with AASM (Hammer) for littoral and small ship capability. However a close look at the programme suggest that AASM is nothing more than a development programme, with only the 250kg variant in service.

A Rafale pictured in a F3R standard weapon load, AASM Hammer for strike missions and MICA and Meteor missiles for air-to-air work and extra fuel tanks.
It is currently guided with GPS/INS technology (latest variant could also be laser guided) which is somewhat 1980’s compared to the Dual GPS/Milimetric wave technology in use in Brimstone. The Brimstone is currently on the European Tornados and has been signed up by the Typhoon nations contractually to be in service inside 18 months, making the weapon at TRL 9 and its integration at TRL7. Unsurprisingly the RAF seem to be at the forefront of this push, given the use of Brimstone in Libya and Iraq, along with a large user of Typhoon in the Middle East (Saudi).
A CGI image of a Typhoon armed with a number of Brimstone missiles
Brimstone is the weapons of choice for use against the most likely threat Malaysia faces, that in its littoral waters, fast, small and manoeuvrable craft. Rafale would appear to have no answer to the Typhoon dominance in this area.
Typhoons biggest problem however has always been its lack of a big ship missile. Rafale is equipped with the Exocet, second only perhaps globally to the Harpoon (which is currently in service on the RMAF F-18Ds) in terms of a threat to large complex modern warships. This is a TRL 9 weapon in service today.
A French Navy Rafale with an Exocet
However industry sources indicated that Rafale can carry only 1 Exocet in one sortie. That doesn’t seem like anything near enough to be able to defeat a modern complex air defence warship with radar and weapon that are able to engage multiple targets.
Only by over complicating the radar picture are you likely to be successful today, which means multiple weapons at once. Even the RMAF reportedly during their evaluations to have assessed Rafale to be less capable than the current SU-30MKM and F-18Ds they have in-service already, and it has little or no capability development to come.
A Typhoon undergoing tests with six Marte ER ASM load.
It is understood that whilst the Eurofighter has no large maritime weapon in service today, at least one customer has asked for the MBDA anti-ship missile the MARTE ER to be integrated. The Typhoon would be capable of carrying six of these weapons, along with a full Air to Air load and extra fuel tanks.
The offer to Malaysia also its understood included the costs for integration of Harpoon, should that be an RMAF requirement. The real game changer however could be the SPEAR 3 weapon, which is slated for entry into service in around 2022. This is based on the Brimstone concept, and is focused on moving and re-locatable targets. Its understood to have GPS, Milimetric Wave and Laser guidance. With wind tunnel testing underway its assessed by the RMAF to be at TRL level 4.
A CGI of a Typhoon carrying a load of Spear 3 bombs complete with air-to-air missiles and extra fuel tanks
On support, the numbers are quite striking. Over 600 Typhoons have been ordered globally. That is compared to the 264 Rafales now ordered following the recent deals in Egypt, India and Qatar. Straight numbers tell you that the more aircraft there are in service the better the through life costs are likely to be and the more certainty you have around security of supply.
One particular note that RMAF insiders are saying from recent visits to France and the UK is on a specific major cost driver, namely the engine support costs. The Rafale engines has a mean-time-between-failure (MTBF) of around 100 hours, compared with the 500 hours that the Eurofighter Typhoon consortium boast. This has to be of particular concern to the French in their efforts to promote their system, and the RMAF in terms of serviceability.
Costs is another factor at play. A big deal has been made about comparing costs, but my understanding from industry sources is that in a like for like comparison there isn’t much to chose between Rafale and Typhoon. Whilst some may play up initial procurement costs, and highlight differences, I am reliably informed from those close to the potential deal that in many statements around such numbers are not sensible comparisons.
A RSAF Typhoon displayed with the ordnance it can carry.
Its only when you either strip the numbers right back, and compare like with like, or look at whole life cycle costs for both platforms, that you see the truth. There is no real difference, according to sources in India, Qatar and those close to the UAE potential deal confirm this.
Finally, back to next weeks visit. Its politics. Would we rather as Malaysia have a relationship in which four Nations feel indebted to us for such a large procurement, or a single Nation. Who would you trust you come to Malaysia’s side in our time of need? I’ll let you, the reader, decide.
Anyways my sources indicated no significant deal is expected to be signed next week. The hype have been about Rafale and the Russian Mistrals. These make good copies of course but you and I know the present situation in Malaysia doesn’t bode well for a multi-billion deal. Yes some deals could be signed.
Among them I’m told include companies participating in DSA2016.
–Malaysian Defence


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发表于 1-9-2015 12:44 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
cyberjaye 发表于 31-8-2015 09:22 PM
跟据马哈林的分析,目前除了对大型舰的功击能力是天价阵风占优, 其他大部份RMAF的评估都是台风占优!
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这就是我对台风坚持的原因。哈哈
台风拥有对战舰攻击的能力只是时间上的问题。

下面的lightning97就是我的评论
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发表于 1-9-2015 12:47 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
cyberjaye 发表于 31-8-2015 09:22 PM
跟据马哈林的分析,目前除了对大型舰的功击能力是天价阵风占优, 其他大部份RMAF的评估都是台风占优!
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不过,现在没错的话是天价阵风占优势。国防部长还说会考虑阵风,之前台风、大黄蜂等最高领导来的时候都不说这些话。
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 楼主| 发表于 8-9-2015 08:24 PM | 显示全部楼层
马来剑 发表于 16-8-2015 03:43 PM
吃饭钱都没有了,大家就别淫意吧

还有呢~~

Deftech MRAP is Confirmed, UnofficiallyMarhalim Abas September 7, 2015Malaysian Army
SHAH ALAM: IN my postFive Things We Are Getting in RMK11, it was stated that the Deftech MRAP would also likely to make the list. And unofficially it has been confirmed that the Army is getting the Thai-designed vehicle.
Janes is now reporting that “Thai firm Chaiseri Metal & Rubber has won a contract from the Malaysian government to supply 4×4 multipurpose armoured vehicles to the Malaysian Army, it has been confirmed to IHS Jane’s . The contract represents one of Thailand’s largest known military export programmes.
Deftech MRAP as seen at the Deftech plant in Pekan late 2014. Malaysian Defence
Karn Hirankul, general director of Chaiseri, said on 7 September that the on-order vehicles would be modified versions of Chaiseri’s 4×4 ‘First Win’ vehicle, which is in operation by the Royal Thai Army and Thailand’s Ministry of Justice’s Department of Special Investigation. In Malaysia the vehicles will be known as AV4.. The full story here.
Of course, Janes was following up on the story which first appeared back here, which originally came out in 2013 but was updated on Aug 27, 2015! Regular reader D.W posted that story in the comments section.
As everyone here remained tight-lipped about the contract, I guess we have to take the word of the Thai fellow for the time being. But since Janes is reporting about the contract, I guess I will not be accused of making up stories.



If confirmed, it will likely see the end of the effort Pindad to sell its Anoa 6X6 APC to the Army.
Deftech MRAP at DSA 2014. Malaysian Defence.
So what about the offset deal? As I had reported previously, Malaysian made M4 Carbines. But what about Colt LLC bankruptcy then? Not much really as the new company will of course backed the Malaysian-Thai deal.
The only fly in the ointment is the Malaysian ringgit slide…
— Malaysian Defence


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发表于 9-9-2015 02:36 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
cyberjaye 发表于 8-9-2015 08:24 PM
还有呢~~

Deftech MRAP is Confirmed, UnofficiallyMarhalim Abas Septem ...

这辆装甲车如果装上类似stryker的RWS就很不错了
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 楼主| 发表于 9-9-2015 08:58 AM | 显示全部楼层
edmund47 发表于 9-9-2015 02:36 AM
这辆装甲车如果装上类似stryker的RWS就很不错了



可以装红剑-9或Javalin
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cyberjaye 发表于 9-9-2015 08:58 AM
可以装红剑-9或Javalin

Javelin 是防空的还是反坦克的啊?
美国和英国都有自己的一套javelin哦…

看white house down是使用javelin把黑鹰直升机打下来的
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 楼主| 发表于 9-9-2015 10:51 PM | 显示全部楼层
edmund47 发表于 9-9-2015 09:07 PM
Javelin 是防空的还是反坦克的啊?
美国和英国都有自己的一套javelin哦…


是反坦克的,但是距离近的话,不排除可能可以打下武直

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FGM-148_Javelin
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 楼主| 发表于 7-11-2015 10:56 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 cyberjaye 于 7-11-2015 10:59 PM 编辑
edmund47 发表于 9-9-2015 02:36 AM
这辆装甲车如果装上类似stryker的RWS就很不错了

东马买了Polaris MRZR

SMASH, AV4, DSME corvettes and othersMarhalim Abas November 7, 2015 Defence Shows
SHAH ALAM: AS it was obvious from the earlier report, I was in Bangkok last week for the Defense and Security 2015 show. As I was working for a regional publication for the show, I held back reporting forMalaysian Defence apart from the AV4 in Camo piece.
Anyhow since I am back home, lets dive into things which I found out at the show concerning the Armed Forces police and not to forget, the MMEA. For example, the Polaris MRZR (below) – 10 in service with PDRM in ESSCOM – is now supported by Global Komited Sdn Bhd, which recently signed contract to supply 8 Jaws APC for the police.
Polaris MRZR. PDRM bought 10 of these buggies for ESSCOM duties.
Speaking about MMEA, I did a story on theAselsan SMASH 30mm last September. Basically, I reported that Aselsan had issued a release stating that it had won a contract to supply six SMASH 30mm guns to the MMEA. The release however did not state the programme which the RWS had been contracted for, either the NGPC or the arming of six MMEA patrol vessels.
SMASH 30mm gun at Aselsan stand. Contracted for the NGPC.
I can report now that the SMASH guns have been selected for the NGPC programme, which put it in a great position for the other project. That said personally I think the 30mm gun is way too big for the unarmed MMEA vessels though that is the type of weapon specified by the tender. A 12.7mm RWS like the Aselsan STAMP is probably a better solution for these boats.
The land version of the STAMP RWS. The naval variant is covered much like the SMASH gun to better withstand the elements at sea.
As for the AV4, please check out the video below for a better view of the vehicle. The mini-gun fitted on the turret is a replica only and not the real thing.


Deftech Av4 in digital camo.
Meanwhile, I spoke to a DSME spokesman about the corvettes that they are proposing to RMN. The spokesman said DSME expected the project to start once Malaysia overcome “the current financial difficulties”. He said its Malaysian partner was still NMEL Sdn Bhd.
A model of the DSME corvette (right).
Anyhow, word is that the Agusta Westland AW159 is the odds-on favourite to fulfill the RMN’s ASW requirements. However, I have yet to find out whether funding – supposedly under RMK11 – will be released or not.
Exocet family at the MBDA stand.
By the way, the Thai MOD Defence Technology Institute unveiled the latest prototype of its Black Widow Spider 8X8 at the show. Some people commented that it looked very similar to the Singapore Terrex 8X8.
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Thai’s Black Widow Spider 8X8. Armed with a 30mm gun RWS turret.
I must admit it looked very similar to the Singapore vehicle but that is my opinion. The Black Widow was developed with a British firm, Ricardo and also Thai firm, Chaiseri ( the builder of the AV4). Yes, the digital camouflage of the 8X8 looked similar to the one the AV4 displayed at the show. Most probably painted by the same guys at Chaiseri!
The roomy cabin Black Widow Spider 8X8. Sits 12 soldiers and two crew.
Anyhow, the cabin at the back feels much roomier than our own Gempita. However, as it is a prototype, it is an unfair comparison. Having a 30mm RWS turret and an engine located to the front right of the vehicle certainly helps
Thales Starstreak missile. Malaysia joined Thai and Indonesia into the Starstreak club.


As in other regional shows, China defence companies made their presence from state owned Norinco to smaller companies. One of them is Bosma, an optics company which manufactures “binoculars, spotting scope, rifle-scope, red dot sight, laser range finder, astronomical telescope and night vision.
Bosma red dot sights.
A representative said their red dot sight retails for US$60 dollars only (above). Perhaps something to consider for our fiscally challenged services.

http://www.malaysiandefence.com/smash-av4-dsme-corvettes/


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发表于 8-11-2015 01:49 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
之前有听说政府考虑购买6辆ripsaw ev2 再装个RCWS作为海滩巡逻的。不知道能不能成真。
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 楼主| 发表于 9-11-2015 09:22 AM | 显示全部楼层
edmund47 发表于 8-11-2015 01:49 AM
之前有听说政府考虑购买6辆ripsaw ev2 再装个RCWS作为海滩巡逻的。不知道能不能成真。



长像看起来还行
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发表于 9-11-2015 08:22 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
cyberjaye 发表于 7-11-2015 10:56 PM
东马买了Polaris MRZR

SMASH, AV4, DSME corvettes and othersMarhalim A ...

较大型的军备不说,60美元的red dot sight的确很吸引人。以价位来看每把枪配上一个,当作standard issue也没问题(特种部队的 ACOG 或Eotech镜片另当别论)
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