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!!英法战机进入塞浦路斯直逼叙利亚!!美可能先战斧伺候 叙?会开打吗?

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发表于 29-8-2013 07:32 PM | 显示全部楼层
江夏 发表于 29-8-2013 04:43 PM
希望叙利亚保家卫国顺利。




美国在中东的利益寄希望于中东各国都是听美国话的乖宝宝,无论中东国家是独裁制度,还是民主制度,只要听美国话,就是美国的盟友,只要不听美国话,是民主制度也要揍你。埃及无论民主还是独裁,都是听美国话的,那么美国自然就对埃及民主与否,民主政府是否射杀示威者并不关心。而叙利亚伊朗这些国家不同,他们是不听美国话的刺头国家,虽然是三权分立总统直选的民主国家,也欲要除之而后快。一开始,由西方国家资助的反抗军势力,有充足的军备和人员,可以跟叙利亚政府军一战的,但看来还是钱砸的不够,现在反抗军已经逐渐被削弱,政府军节节胜利,全歼反抗军之日也即将到来。这是美国最不愿意看到的结果,需要找个理由干涉政府军的进攻和统一全国的过程。这时候最需要化学武器事件的,只有美国和其手下的反抗军,而非政府军。

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发表于 29-8-2013 09:53 PM | 显示全部楼层
刺激经济的手段 ?
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发表于 29-8-2013 10:42 PM | 显示全部楼层
还没打?在等呢
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ivan6003 发表于 28-8-2013 08:35 PM
英法又可以实战测试战机了


台风没有的出镜了!

8月30日讯据BBC报道,英国议会下院29日以285票对272票否决 ... 这一投票结果实际上排除了英国参与美国带头军事打击叙利亚


Syria crisis: Britain sends six Typhoon fighter jets to Cyprus ahead of military strikes
Britain is sending six Typhoon fighter jets to Cyprus to guard against potential retaliation by the Assad regime in the event of airstrikes against Syria Photo: GETTY IMAGES

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10273157/Syria-crisis-Britain-sends-six-Typhoon-fighter-jets-to-Cyprus-ahead-of-military-strikes.html



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detectivebinbin 发表于 28-8-2013 10:51 AM
(華府28日訊)米國國防部發言人說:『有證據顯示,2003年時伊國的大規模殺傷性武器在多國部隊採取軍事行 ...

奥巴巴好像也是踢到石头板。

美英对叙利亚的军事打击计划昨天看上去稍微放缓了一下步调,奥巴马宣称“尚未作出决定”,英国首相卡梅伦表示愿意等到联合国核查小组的调查结果之后。美英为何犹豫?路透社称,民调显示只有9%的美国民众支持军事干预叙利亚,美国国会高调施压奥巴马,称动武必须经过国会同意!
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发表于 31-8-2013 07:07 PM | 显示全部楼层


美国攻打叙利亚符合中国战略利益:

1.美俄战略矛盾加剧,俄国将更加亲中.

2.美继续深陷中东泥潭,高调返太平洋战略围堵中国的战略受牵制.

3.叙利亚非石油主要出口国,国际油价变化不大.

4.正在裁减军费的美国,军费压力更大 .

U.S. Fights Side-By-Side With Three Terrorist Groups In Syria

Al Qaeda is supporting the Syrian opposition.

So is the Muslim Brotherhood.

And Hamas.

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发表于 31-8-2013 08:09 PM | 显示全部楼层
反对派从沙特得到化武?


EXCLUSIVE: Syrians In Ghouta Claim Saudi-Supplied Rebels Behind Chemical Attack

This article is a collaboration between Dale Gavlak reporting for Mint Press News and Yahya Ababneh.

Ghouta, Syria — As the machinery for a U.S.-led military intervention in Syria gathers pace following last week’s chemical weapons attack, the U.S. and its allies may be targeting the wrong culprit.

Interviews with people in Damascus and Ghouta, a suburb of the Syrian capital, where the humanitarian agency Doctors Without Borders said at least 355 people had died last week from what it believed to be a neurotoxic agent, appear to indicate as much.

The U.S., Britain, and France as well as the Arab League have accused the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad for carrying out the chemical weapons attack, which mainly targeted civilians. U.S. warships are stationed in the Mediterranean Sea to launch military strikes against Syria in punishment for carrying out a massive chemical weapons attack. The U.S. and others are not interested in examining any contrary evidence, with U.S Secretary of State John Kerry sayingMonday that Assad’s guilt was “a judgment … already clear to the world.”

However, from numerous interviews with doctors, Ghouta residents, rebel fighters and their families, a different picture emerges. Many believe that certain rebels received chemical weapons via the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and were responsible for carrying out the dealing gas attack.

“My son came to me two weeks ago asking what I thought the weapons were that he had been asked to carry,” said Abu Abdel-Moneim, the father of a rebel fighting to unseat Assad, who lives in Ghouta.

Abdel-Moneim said his son and 12 other rebels were killed inside of a tunnel used to store weapons provided by a Saudi militant, known as Abu Ayesha, who was leading a fighting battalion. The father described the weapons as having a “tube-like structure” while others were like a “huge gas bottle.”

Ghouta townspeople said the rebels were using mosques and private houses to sleep while storing their weapons in tunnels.

Abdel-Moneim said his son and the others died during the chemical weapons attack. That same day, the militant group Jabhat al-Nusra, which is linked to al-Qaida, announced that it would similarly attack civilians in the Assad regime’s heartland of Latakia on Syria’s western coast, in purported retaliation.

“They didn’t tell us what these arms were or how to use them,” complained a female fighter named ‘K.’ “We didn’t know they were chemical weapons. We never imagined they were chemical weapons.”

“When Saudi Prince Bandar gives such weapons to people, he must give them to those who know how to handle and use them,” she warned. She, like other Syrians, do not want to use their full names for fear of retribution.

A well-known rebel leader in Ghouta named ‘J’ agreed. “Jabhat al-Nusra militants do not cooperate with other rebels, except with fighting on the ground. They do not share secret information. They merely used some ordinary rebels to carry and operate this material,” he said.

“We were very curious about these arms. And unfortunately, some of the fighters handled the weapons improperly and set off the explosions,” ‘J’ said.

Doctors who treated the chemical weapons attack victims cautioned interviewers to be careful about asking questions regarding who, exactly, was responsible for the deadly assault.

The humanitarian group Doctors Without Borders added that health workers aiding 3,600 patients also reported experiencing similar symptoms, including frothing at the mouth, respiratory distress, convulsions and blurry vision. The group has not been able to independently verify the information.

More than a dozen rebels interviewed reported that their salaries came from the Saudi government.


Saudi involvement

In a recent article for Business Insider, reporter Geoffrey Ingersoll highlightedSaudi Prince Bandar’s role in the two-and-a-half year Syrian civil war. Many observers believe Bandar, with his close ties to Washington, has been at the very heart of the push for war by the U.S. against Assad.

Ingersoll referred to an article in the U.K.’s Daily Telegraph about secret Russian-Saudi talksalleging that Bandar offered Russian President Vladimir Putin cheap oil in exchange for dumping Assad.

“Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russia’s naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia’s Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord,” Ingersoll wrote.

“I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us,” Bandar allegedly told the Russians.

“Along with Saudi officials, the U.S. allegedly gave the Saudi intelligence chief the thumbs up to conduct these talks with Russia, which comes as no surprise,” Ingersoll wrote.

“Bandar is American-educated, both military and collegiate, served as a highly influential Saudi Ambassador to the U.S., and the CIA totally loves this guy,” he added.

According to U.K.’s Independent newspaper, it was Prince Bandar’s intelligence agency that first brought allegations of the use of sarin gas by the regime to the attention of Western allies in February.

The Wall Street Journal recently reported that the CIA realized Saudi Arabia was “serious” about toppling Assad when the Saudi king named Prince Bandar to lead the effort.

“They believed that Prince Bandar, a veteran of the diplomatic intrigues of Washington and the Arab world, could deliver what the CIA couldn’t: planeloads of money and arms, and, as one U.S. diplomat put it, wasta, Arabic for under-the-table clout,” it said.

Bandar has been advancing Saudi Arabia’s top foreign policy goal, WSJ reported, of defeating Assad and his Iranian and Hezbollah allies.

To that aim, Bandar worked Washington to back a program to arm and train rebels out of a planned military base in Jordan.

The newspaper reports that he met with the “uneasy Jordanians about such a base”:

His meetings in Amman with Jordan’s King Abdullah sometimes ran to eight hours in a single sitting. “The king would joke: ‘Oh, Bandar’s coming again? Let’s clear two days for the meeting,’ ” said a person familiar with the meetings.

Jordan’s financial dependence on Saudi Arabia may have given the Saudis strong leverage. An operations center in Jordan started going online in the summer of 2012, including an airstrip and warehouses for arms. Saudi-procured AK-47s and ammunition arrived, WSJ reported, citing Arab officials.

Although Saudi Arabia has officially maintained that it supported more moderate rebels, the newspaper reported that “funds and arms were being funneled to radicals on the side, simply to counter the influence of rival Islamists backed by Qatar.”

But rebels interviewed said Prince Bandar is referred to as “al-Habib” or ‘the lover’ by al-Qaida militants fighting in Syria.

Peter Oborne, writing in the Daily Telegraph on Thursday, has issued a word of caution about Washington’s rush to punish the Assad regime with so-called ‘limited’ strikes not meant to overthrow the Syrian leader but diminish his capacity to use chemical weapons:

Consider this: the only beneficiaries from the atrocity were the rebels, previously losing the war, who now have Britain and America ready to intervene on their side. While there seems to be little doubt that chemical weapons were used, there is doubt about who deployed them.
It is important to remember that Assad has been accused of using poison gas against civilians before. But on that occasion, Carla del Ponte, a U.N. commissioner on Syria, concluded that the rebels, not Assad, were probably responsible.

Some information in this article could not be independently verified. Mint Press News will continue to provide further information and updates .

Dale Gavlak is a Middle East correspondent for Mint Press News and has reported from Amman, Jordan, writing for the Associated Press, NPR and BBC. An expert in Middle Eastern affairs, Gavlak covers the Levant region, writing on topics including politics, social issues and economic trends. Dale holds a M.A. in Middle Eastern Studies from the University of Chicago. Contact Dale at dgavlak@mintpressnews.com

Yahya Ababneh is a Jordanian freelance journalist and is currently working on a master’s degree in journalism,  He has covered events in Jordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Russia and Libya. His stories have appeared on Amman Net, Saraya News, Gerasa News and elsewhere.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/witnesses-of-gas-attack-say-saudis-supplied-rebels-with-chemical-weapons/168135/





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发表于 3-9-2013 11:07 AM | 显示全部楼层
ivan6003 发表于 28-8-2013 08:35 PM
英法又可以实战测试战机了



为何英国议会不批准出兵,看看议员是怎么指责自由军吃人心肝的(转载)

http://www.taobao67.com/article-a-173935-1.html


8月30日,英国议员在下院揭露,叙利亚自由军喜欢吃人肉,挖心脏,抢库乐德女人(库乐德女人只好拿枪自卫)。


法鲁克营的小头目,食人魔阿布·谢克尔被叙政府军狙击手爆头毙命,落得罪有应得的下场

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发表于 4-9-2013 04:40 PM | 显示全部楼层
美国国会本地时间今晚投票,但是奥巴马的人已经在活动了。



美国国会相关人士透露,美国参议院外交关系委员会的高层议员已于9月3日晚些时候就向叙利亚动武决议达成协议。
http://news.xdkb.net/international/2013-09/04/content_123995.htm
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 楼主| 发表于 4-9-2013 09:07 PM | 显示全部楼层
美国参院高层同意对叙动武 行动时间最长90天(图)

2013-09-04http://news.1001do.com/article/7681017.html
来源:美联社

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据报道,美国国会相关人士透露,美国参议院外交关系委员会的高层议员已于9月3日晚些时候就向叙利亚动武决议达成协议。


资料图:美国总统奥巴马当地时间8月31日在白宫玫瑰园就叙利亚局势发表声明,称确定美国将对叙利亚发起有限范围的军事打击,但目前还没有确定时间,他将择机下令。图为美国总统奥巴马与副总统拜登在玫瑰园发表声明。
据报道,透露相关消息的美国国会助手称,外交委员会会在当地时间9月4日就对叙动武提案进行表决。但外交委员会主席梅内德斯已于3日晚些时候与其他高层议员达成一致。
报道称,最终决议将限制美国对叙军事行动的时间,还明确禁止美国向叙利亚派出地面部队。
另据《今日美国》报道,该协议会把美国对叙利亚的军事行动的时间限制在60天内,此外可能还有30天的延长。
西方国家近日指控叙利亚政府军对平民使用化武,美国总统奥巴马随后宣布,美国应对叙利亚采取军事行动,但须先征得国会授权。
随后,奥巴马接连多日把国会议员请进白宫亲自游说。美国国务卿克里、国防部长哈格尔、美军参谋长联席会议主席邓普西3日出席参议院外交关系委员会听证会,为对叙动武造声势。




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 楼主| 发表于 4-9-2013 09:09 PM | 显示全部楼层
普京:若叙政府确使用化武 不排除赞成对叙动武
俄罗斯总统普京在圣彼得堡G20峰会举行前夕接受俄罗斯“第一频道”和美联社采访。(资料图)

  人民网9月4日讯 俄罗斯之声网站报道,俄罗斯总统普京在圣彼得堡G20峰会举行前夕接受俄罗斯“第一频道”和美联社采访时称,在大马士革使用化武的罪行予以证实的情况下,俄罗斯不排除将赞同对叙利亚采取军事行动的可能性。
  普京表示,如果在叙利亚曾使用过化学武器,而且是由该国当局使用,那么,这些证据应提交联合国安理会并具有充足的依据。他说,“就是在美国,也有专家认为提交政府的证据不具有说服力,并且不排除反对派采取了预先安排的挑衅行动,企图予以自己的庇护者进行武装干预的借口。”



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ivan6003 发表于 28-8-2013 08:35 PM
英法又可以实战测试战机了

中国能试雷达了.


中国雷达装备叙利亚 可借美军打击测试


JYL-1远程三坐标警戒引导雷达


  【环球时报综合报道】俄罗斯军工新闻网2日援引美国《防务新闻》的报道称,如果美国对叙利亚发动军事打击,那么中国可以借机评估出售给叙利亚的雷达和电子战系统效能。龙腾网 http://www.ltaaa.com
  报道称,著名军事分析家理查德·费舍尔表示,目前在叙利亚部署有中国的JYL-1三坐标远程监视雷达(探测距离为320公里)和JY-27 VHF远程监视雷达及120型(LLQ120)2D低空目标雷达。中国可能在未来因台湾问题与美国发生潜在冲突中利用这些获得的数据。但这样的途径具有两面性,美国也可能获得这种雷达的相关数据,并通过这些数据检测自己突破中国防空系统的方法。费舍尔表示,中国还向叙利亚提供过现代化的电子防御装备,这些装备对保护叙利亚政权的生存至关重要。他说,上世纪90年代末,中国电信公司曾向伊拉克提供设备,其中包括光纤电缆,作为通讯工具用于监视美国设立的禁飞区。美国对光纤电缆轰炸后,中国工程师还帮助予以恢复。而目前紧迫的问题在于,中国帮助叙利亚现代化改造的防空系统状况如何,是否能够对抗美国战机的攻击?目前叙利亚有120个防空阵地,装备有俄罗斯及前苏联生产的SA-2、SA-3、SA-25、SA-6等防空导弹系统。另外,叙军还装备有俄制“山毛榉-M1”、“山毛榉-M2”和“铠甲-S1”等先进防空系统,可能还配备有S-300防空导弹系统。另外还有50个中俄制造的电子对抗阵地。
  文章称,中国现代化的雷达能够发现美国隐形战机,其中最有效的是2006年提供的JY-27 VHF远程监视雷达,其探测空中目标距离为500公里。目前,这些雷达部署在叙利亚中部的巴尔米拉城北部和南部。这些雷达站探测距离不仅包括叙利亚空域,而且还包括邻国空域。而并不是十分强大的双坐标120型2D低空目标雷达却鲜为人知。它是JY-29/LSS-1 2D雷达的升级型,能够在距离200公里处同时跟踪72个目标。这种雷达能与防空导弹系统雷达配合使用。中国目前在“红旗-9”和“红旗-12”防空导弹系统中部署有120部这种雷达。而叙利亚可能将其用于专门的电子对抗。叙利亚装备有4部这种雷达,部署在巴尼亚斯和塔尔图斯等地区。目前问题在于,中国的雷达能否将目标数据传送到苏制防空导弹阵地。美媒称,由于缺乏相互协作,叙将不得不使用语音通信传输数据。如果通过公开通信传送,容易受到干扰


http://www.ltaaa.com/bbs/thread-236484-1-1.html
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cyberjaye 发表于 4-9-2013 10:58 PM
中国能试雷达了.

再打下去汽油又要起价了
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ivan6003 发表于 4-9-2013 11:16 PM
再打下去汽油又要起价了


原油起,国油就大赚。
信不信原油如果跌90%,马来西亚马上破产?(除非本地油站倒反涨价)
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cyberjaye 发表于 4-9-2013 11:35 PM
原油起,国油就大赚。
信不信原油如果跌90%,马来西亚马上破产?(除非本地油站倒反涨价)

原油徘徊在20美元的时候都没有破产
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ivan6003 发表于 4-9-2013 11:42 PM
原油徘徊在20美元的时候都没有破产

现在成本不同了。
跌90%=十块美金,那是80年代的价钱。
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出動轟炸機再射導彈‧美攻敘改至3天2013-09-09


(美國‧華盛頓8日訊)《洛杉磯時報》星期日報導,五角大樓正在策劃對敘利亞政府展開更猛烈和更長久的攻擊行動,將原定的作戰計劃改至3天。

報導引述官員指出,制定作戰計劃的軍官眼下打算“首先出動轟炸機密集空襲目標,緊接著發射第二輪的導彈空襲,攻擊那些在第一輪轟炸行動中倖免或依然沒有被摧毀的目標”。
兩名美國官員表示,白宮已經指示軍方列出一份遠比原定計劃50個攻擊目標“更多”的新名單。
報導說,五角大樓計劃出動空軍的轟炸機以及5艘目前已部署在地中海東部水域的導彈驅逐艦,在敘利亞政府軍的防空炮有效射程範圍之外發射巡航導彈和空對地導彈進行轟炸。
另外,由美國海軍一艘巡洋艦、3艘驅逐艦和“尼米茲號”航空母艦組成的戰鬥群也已經部署在紅海地區,同樣可以發射巡航導彈和出動戰機進行轟炸任務。
一名熟悉作戰計劃的軍官稱,“我們會發動數輪轟炸任務,每一輪結束之後都會進行作戰評估,不過所有任務只在這72個小時的時限內進行,我們會在整體的軍事行動完結時做出明確的表示。”


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发表于 9-9-2013 06:01 PM | 显示全部楼层

美帝石油战争 企鹅怀璧其罪?

美国若在南极洲发现石油,接下来会发生什么事?

网络上有这么一张经修饰的图,指美国在南极洲发现石油,所以“犯刑事,不人道的企鹅政权”很快就会消失了。



Source: 东方日报


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发表于 14-9-2013 01:42 PM | 显示全部楼层
小弟冒昧给一点意见。
叙利亚的这场闹剧,很可能是美国联合中东制造出来,让可能引发战争的新闻越拖越久。
原油的价格就能够因为一堆Speculation而名正言顺的胀大价,从而获得巨大利益。
不管别人如何,先赚一笔再说。
到头来其实受真正伤害的,是我们全世界的贫民百姓。
其实既然要打,为何不快手快脚,可以制造话题,拖越久越好。
叙利亚两派都存在着问题,反对派参杂很多激进分子。
到头来也未必是一件好事。
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发表于 14-9-2013 10:37 PM | 显示全部楼层
WHY~G 发表于 14-9-2013 01:42 PM
小弟冒昧给一点意见。
叙利亚的这场闹剧,很可能是美国联合中东制造出来,让可能引发战争的新闻越拖越久。 ...

美国为了赚石油钱,甚么都干的出来.
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