大马MRCA多功能战斗机计划的消息

四马路勇男

風大浪高 发表于 14-6-2013 10:30 AM
他写过先买AEW&C！
是Hor, 这个记者果然很有料！
Wakaka!

明明早有人报导俄罗斯战机已经出局，但有网友就是不相信

如今是空军司令亲口证实，某位网友又为何只字不提此事？

哇哈哈哈

http://cforum1.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=viewthread&action=printable&tid=2896323

Boilwater

四马路勇男 发表于 15-6-2013 06:57 PM
明明早有人报导俄罗斯战机已经出局，但有网友就是不相信

如今是空军司令亲口证实，某位网友又为何只 ...

大马优先考虑租借Jas-39；
等于上次刊登阵风 & F18领先的新闻是

四马路勇男

Boilwater 发表于 15-6-2013 07:10 PM
大马在考虑租借Jas-39；等于上次刊登阵风 & F18领先的新闻是

上次MARHALIM大大和PERAJURIT大大都说TYPHOON新闻领先，那这些新闻是真或假？

俄罗斯战机出局，MARK II 有没有胡乱说？


怎样，没有话说了吧？

MARHALIM大大又说政府考虑先买AEW，那么这一次放租战机的新闻，又是真或假？

哇哈哈  真正的吕布现身了

waja2000

新闻看看就好啦， 只是大家解读不同， 看法不同， 反正连RFP都没有发出，我看最快也要下半年了，或许9月底财政预算，过后会有些消息，
放轻松些，只是在level 2... 年底再看看吧....

我只是对空军司令说预警机比较偏向涡轮发动机比较感兴趣.... 当然政府预算不多的话也只能现在turbopop发动机的机型了
这样看来E-2D， Saab 340/2000 比较没希望了..
这样看来Embraer R99，Boeing 737 MESA, 都比较有机会了.... 或许是今年空军司令看了澳洲的B737 MESA很羡慕吧 ....

Boilwater

waja2000 发表于 15-6-2013 07:29 PM
新闻看看就好啦， 只是大家解读不同， 看法不同， 反正连RFP都没有发出，我看最快也要下半年了，或许9月底财 ...

让你当翻译的评判有那么难吗？

風大浪高

某人的回贴，其中90%都要编辑和修饰，写个简短回复这么难？像个吕布三心两意，一改再改，不能一次性写好。

Boilwater

風大浪高 发表于 16-6-2013 12:04 AM
某人的回贴，其中90%都要编辑和修饰，写个简短回复这么难？像个吕布三心两意，一改再改，不能一次性写好。; ...

关你X事

目前领先的是Gripen，但是迟些Tyhpoon也提出租借的方案，估计the list of bidders could be narrowed to two

嫦娥三号

买jas39还不如买F18或SU30，起码后勤压力没那么大。

detectivebinbin

waja2000 发表于 15-6-2013 07:29 PM
新闻看看就好啦， 只是大家解读不同， 看法不同， 反正连RFP都没有发出，我看最快也要下半年了，或许9月底财 ...

關於『預警機比較偏向渦輪發動機的機種』有點好奇，這『渦輪發動機』究竟是指『渦輪噴射』（Turbojet）、『渦輪扇』（Turbofan）還是『渦輪螺旋槳』（Turboprop）？現有的預警機都是採用後兩種發動機推進，例如：
渦輪扇發動機：Beoing E-3、Boeing 737 AEW&C、Embraer R-99、灣流G550等
渦輪螺旋槳發動機：E-2D、Saab 340 AEW&C等

所以這『渦輪發動機』有點不明確，總不會是指Nissan GTR上的Twin Turbo吧？

waja2000

detectivebinbin 发表于 17-6-2013 07:58 AM
關於『預警機比較偏向渦輪發動機的機種』有點好奇，這『渦輪發動機』究竟是指『渦輪噴射』（Turbojet）、 ...

肯定是指『渦輪扇』（Turbofan）

Boilwater

waja2000 发表于 17-6-2013 04:28 PM
肯定是指『渦輪扇』（Turbofan）

最后2强应该很快出炉了

[youtube]C5C8Lir24V8[/youtube]

Boilwater

waja2000 发表于 17-6-2013 04:28 PM
肯定是指『渦輪扇』（Turbofan）

由于马来西亚订购量不大，在本地生产跟本不吸引人。
Rafale依然故我，到现在也不学Jas139和Typhoon提出租的可能性，被刷出局是难免得了~~

French firm hints at plan to build jet fighter here

OFFSET PROGRAMME: Offer includes work, software and systems for Rafale

KUALA LUMPUR: MALAYSIA can  produce the Dassault Aviation Rafale jet fighter, should the government accept a proposal by the French company.

The offer to begin an assembly line for the Rafale is part of the offset programme proposed by Rafale International in its bid to supply the aircraft for the Royal Malaysian Air Force's multi-role combat aircraft (MRCA) replacement programme.

Speaking ahead of the Paris Air Show, Dassault Aviation and Rafale International chief executive Eric Trappier said: "On the table for Malaysia is a complete offset programme encompassing work, software and systems, support as well as future modifications of the Rafale as situation arises. We have had discussions with CTRM and other defence companies in Malaysia.

"Malaysia is one of the fast growing nations in the Southeast Asian region and Rafale International is looking for the right partners to develop the offset package.

"It is not just about proposing the package but also to be able to welcome and perform it.

"It is important that the capabilities in the country can ensure that the cooperation is fruitful."

He said Rafale International was looking at manufacturing some parts in Malaysia and capabilities to support the Rafale in the country.

"Assembly line is an option and it is one of our proposals, as requested by our partners in Malaysia but it is not the only proposal.

"We are also working on manufacturing some parts in Malaysia, and capabilities to support the Rafale in Malaysia.

"An assembly line is feasible and good for know-how transfer.

"If you know how to assemble the aircraft, it will be better to support the aircraft.

"It is really something interesting for Malaysia.

"Whether this option will be retained by the Malaysian authorities, it will be in the final discussion of the contract negotiation."

The Rafale is one of four aircraft said to be the front runners to replace the RMAF's MiG-29N Fulcrum fighters.

The others are the Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, the Saab Gripen and the Eurofighter Typhoon.

The Dassault Aviation Rafale assembly line in Merignac, France.

Read more: French firm hints at plan to build jet fighter here - General - New Straits Times http://www.nst.com.my/nation/general/french-firm-hints-at-plan-to-build-jet-fighter-here-1.301159#ixzz2WSgnTcCO

風大浪高

Rafale依然故我，到现在也不学Jas139和Typhoon提出租的可能性，被刷出局是难免得了~~

租战斗机只是讲爽，实践的机率很低。

第一，没有面子。
第二，租比买贵。

Boilwater

風大浪高 发表于 17-6-2013 04:57 PM
租战斗机只是讲爽，实践的机率很低。

第一，没有面子。

可惜啊!
空军已经说了,由于affordability的因素,租借的可能性很高而且可能政府不会出RFP~~

風大浪高

既不会租昂贵的Gripen，也不会买天价的台风。



只剩下两种战斗机选择，美 VS 法。

風大浪高

Boilwater 发表于 17-6-2013 05:30 PM
可惜啊!
空军已经说了,由于affordability的因素,租借的可能性很高而且可能政府不会出RFP~~ {: ...

阿Boil不明白其语言中的深意。

Boilwater

detectivebinbin 发表于 17-6-2013 07:58 AM
關於『預警機比較偏向渦輪發動機的機種』有點好奇，這『渦輪發動機』究竟是指『渦輪噴射』（Turbojet）、 ...

巴黎航展，台风再传好消息！
AESA已经第一次装在T3,而且eurofighter说一五年之前搞定！
Already being offered to potential future export customers for the Typhoon!

6月13日 英国Lancashire，BAE系统公司进行Eurofighter IPA5号战机修改升级安装Captor-E AESA雷达测试作业,预计在今年年底进行首次飞行测试。 至于新生产的Eurofighter Tranche 3A战机,尚未签署采购Captor-E AESA雷达，不过已事先进行接线预留与结构修改。

How important are new capabilities such as adding an active electronically scanned array radar?

A: We are trying to include this kind of advanced capability in the shortest time possible; customers want this as soon as possible, not in 15 years. It's a fundamental enhancement for the future role of Eurofighter. We received a request for quotations from NETMA and the nations last August for the E-Scan, responded to by the end of November, and made an appendix for some other requirements in January this year. There is an offer on the table, which the nations are reviewing. We have to wait, but in the meantime we are proceeding with our development programme with our partner Euroradar. At the beginning of 2014 there will be the first flight of the [AESA] equipment on a Eurofighter, so we are working very hard. The timescale is essential for the export market. At the moment, all four nations are going in the same direction for the first steps.

PICTURE: AESA radar clears trial fit with Eurofighter

One of the key future enhancements for the Eurofighter combat aircraft has moved a step closer to becoming reality, after BAE Systems performed a trial installation of an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar with a test example of the aircraft.

waja2000

Rafale要赢不难 .... 看付款配套而已
买F18/阵风/台风都好， 都是新采购，值得高兴 .... 如果是租就接受不到

Boilwater

waja2000 发表于 18-6-2013 01:31 AM
Rafale要赢不难 .... 看付款配套而已
买F18/阵风/台风都好， 都是新采购，值得高兴 .... 如果是租就接受不 ...

如果是租个20年，真的接受不到
如果是租个几年，然后买下J31或T50，那就

風大浪高

waja2000 发表于 18-6-2013 01:31 AM
Rafale要赢不难 .... 看付款配套而已
买F18/阵风/台风都好， 都是新采购，值得高兴 .... 如果是租就接受不 ...

从最昂贵的台风，到不符合要求的Gripen，都罗列在租借选项，阿X竟然信以为真。