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发表于 22-4-2012 11:02 PM | 显示全部楼层
清真此字眼没有出现在古兰经中,有待考察是否中国人借用此字。
有一样东西是伊斯兰根本没有抄袭基督教 ...
黄氏 发表于 22-4-2012 10:36 PM

基督教相信犹太教的一位神。
以色列啊,你要聽!雅威─我們的上帝是獨一的雅威。(申6:4)

你知道这句话里的“上帝”是属于单数还是复数?


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发表于 22-4-2012 11:09 PM | 显示全部楼层
没有这回事,相信是非穆斯林恶意诽谤穆斯林不吃猪肉的歪理。
就算从结婚角度来看,穆斯林只能娶四个 ...
黄氏 发表于 22-4-2012 10:40 PM

婚姻的圣洁与忠贞,如同爱神一样,绝对不容许第三者的存在。
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发表于 22-4-2012 11:21 PM | 显示全部楼层
你们是马来西亚穆斯林?还是中国穆斯林?
Lizzie_Grace 发表于 22-4-2012 05:14 PM

当他知道马来西亚以穆斯林为多数的国家,却很糟糕的时候,他才知道什么叫做穆斯林了。

穆斯林允许在回教堂说基督威胁论,却不允许别人说回教半点坏话。显然自我膨胀太大。
穆斯林允许回教传教给别人,却不允许别人传教给穆斯林。显然信仰经不起挑战。
穆斯林允许用国家的钱建教堂,却不允许别人建教堂,还拆别人教堂的牌。显然侵犯他人宗教。
穆斯林允许用国语在宗教语言,却不允许别人使用国语在别人的宗教语言。显然要霸占语言,妨碍他人宗教自由
穆斯林谈回教法,顺便提基督国威胁论。显然穆斯林喜欢挑起宗教挑衅。

别说是个别穆斯林的问题,因为你不会看到个别基督徒,佛教徒,印度教徒国家领袖提回教威胁论,也不会制定一大堆法令限制回教的发展。如果你认为不是所有穆斯林都如此,你可以在上述的穆斯林前自行加个“个别”,但是马来西亚人个个都知道,什么叫做穆斯林。

显然没有个别的“非穆斯林”有问题,只有个别的”穆斯林”制造国家宗教问题,种族问题......对不起,我说话太直接了。
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发表于 23-4-2012 02:41 AM | 显示全部楼层
婚姻的圣洁与忠贞,如同爱神一样,绝对不容许第三者的存在。
翻转全球 发表于 22-4-2012 11:09 PM


是的,我也绝对认同,对婚姻没有忠贞及圣洁,娶四个老婆都可以合法合理化。。问问穆斯林女性。。。喜欢吗?愿意吗?快乐吗?
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发表于 23-4-2012 02:42 AM | 显示全部楼层
当他知道马来西亚以穆斯林为多数的国家,却很糟糕的时候,他才知道什么叫做穆斯林了。

穆斯林允许在回 ...
翻转全球 发表于 22-4-2012 11:21 PM

支持,句句一针见血,楼主请回答。
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发表于 23-4-2012 08:22 AM | 显示全部楼层
很多人忘记了以前的故事

翻译版圣经因“阿拉”字眼被扣留、7-eleven禁卖啤酒、宗教学校必须将十字架拆下、槟城观音高过回教堂必须砍脚、拆除神庙与拿督公、拆除宰猪场、沙巴妈祖事件、马佛青普照寺工程喊停。
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现在呢?你会看到非穆斯林的坟墓不够用,但是你不会看到穆斯林的坟墓不够用。你会看到当国家发展时只会关心有没有保留地给回教堂(虽然那地方是非穆斯林居多),却没有问过半句关于非穆斯林的佛堂教堂,甚至也从来不认为他们需要保留地。一个城市给每个宗教(天主教和基督教还要share)一个保留地,但是却无保留的建回教祈祷所,一条街两个回教堂。你会看到穆斯林朋友说“向穆斯林传教,按可兰经是要死刑的”,可是你不会看到非穆斯林说“如果你向我分享你的信仰,你会死”。即使在中国内陆,也有群众穆斯林打死传教的非穆斯林,这不是纸上谈兵的信仰,而是真实暴力的信仰。你会看到穆斯林烧教堂,你不会看到非穆斯林烧回教堂。穆斯林有对教堂赔钱?还是用国家的钱津贴一点。每个非穆斯林在大马这个国度上深深感受到回教的暴力。

即使印尼,一年也有好多间教堂被烧,直到今天。

你看到世界各地非穆斯林遭受不同程度的迫害,还是生命的迫害。你就知道,那些不会是“个别例子”,而是蔓延全球的回教被合理化的暴力精神。
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 楼主| 发表于 23-4-2012 09:00 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 黄氏 于 24-4-2012 02:17 PM 编辑

伊斯兰是属于全人类的宗教。
平常人通常都会搬出某某人的错误,然后怪罪于宗教。然而伊斯兰真的鼓吹毁灭他人的教堂吗?我觉得这点并非泼妇骂街式来解释,因为那是没有论点的。且看律师对此有何看法并且刊登于 The Star

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/4/18/focus/11122764&sec=focus

Speaking up for religious tolerance


Differences of religion should not make people fight one another, rather they should cooperate in doing good and warding off evil.
AS a Muslim I am deeply distressed and perplexed at the incendiary view, allegedly emanating from the Saudi Grand Mufti, that all churches in the Arab peninsula be destroyed.
This view, if it were really expressed, is offensive. It violates all canons of decency, international law and the human rights of our Christian brothers.
It contradicts many exquisite passages in the Quran and the practices of Prophet Muhammad. It runs contrary to centuries of Islamic history of peaceful co-existence with other religions. The syariah gives ample guidance on inter-faith relations.
Multiplicity of faiths: In innumerable passages, the Quran recognises religious pluralism. In 2:256, it is stated: “There is no compulsion in religion.” In 109:6, there is the exquisite passage: “Unto you your religion, unto me mine.”
In Surah 11:118, it is declared: “If thy Lord had so willed, He could have made mankind one people: but they will not cease to dispute.”
In Surah 10:99, Allah gave this admonition: “Had your Lord willed, those on Earth would have believed, all of them together. Will you then compel people against their will to believe?”
In 18:29, it is commanded: “Let him who will, believe; and let him who will, disbelieve.”
Common fountain: In the Quran 42:13, it is implied that the divinely-revealed religions all stemmed from the same source. “He has ordained for you the same religion which He ordained for Nooh (Noah) … and which He ordained for Ibrahim (Abraham), Musa (Moses) and Esa (Jesus) saying you should establish religion and make no divisions in it.”
“Every nation has its messenger” – 10:47. “Nothing has been said to you save what was said to the messengers before you” – 41:43.
Respect for all prophets: Plurality of prophets and multiplicity of revelations reflect a divine will. The Prophets of all revealed religions are brothers and there is no difference between them with regard to the message. Muslims are obliged to believe in them all.
In Surah 2:136, it is stated: “We believe in Allah and that which has been sent down to us and that which has been sent down to Ibrahim (Abraham), Ismail (Ishmael), Ishaq (Isaac), Yaqoob (Jacob), and to Al-Asbaat (the offspring of the 12 sons of Yaqoob), and that which has been given to Musa (Moses) and Esa (Jesus), and that which has been given to the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims in submission to Him.”
According to the renowned Malaysia-based Afghani scholar Hashim Kamali, “Islam sees itself as the third of the Abrahamic religions.
“The Hebrew prophets and Christ are deeply respected by Muslims. The Virgin Mary is given the most exalted spiritual position in the Quran: a chapter of the Quran is named after her, and she is the only woman mentioned by name.
“The tombs of the Hebrew prophets, who are also Islamic prophets, are revered by Muslims to this day.”
All Christians and Jews are given the special status of ahle-kitab (believers in a book).
Respect for places of worship: All places of worship are sacred and must be defended. In Surah 22:40, the Quran speaks of monasteries, churches, synagogues and mosques “as places in which God is commemorated in abundant measure”.
In Islamic history, the clergy in the churches were given full authority over their flocks with regard to all religious and church matters. Mosques were often built next to churches. When the Muslims conquered Egypt, they gave the Coptic churches back to the Copts and restored their rights.
In the early history of Islam, Muslims and Christians often prayed simultaneously in many churches, e.g. at the Cathedral of Saint John in Damascus. Likewise, Prophet Muhammad allowed the Christians of Najran to pray in Muslim mosques. When Prophet Muhammad migrated to Madinah, there was a large number of Jews in the city. One of the first affairs of state that he dealt with was to establish a treaty with them, according to which their beliefs were to be respected and the state was obliged to ward off harm from them.
Duty of civility: In the book Civilisation of Faith by Mustafa as-Sibaa’ie, it is stated that the Quran obliges the Muslim to believe in all the Prophets and Messengers of Allah, to speak of all of them with respect, not to mistreat their followers, to deal with them all in a good and gentle manner, speaking kindly to them, being a good neighbour to them and accepting their hospitality.
Differences of religion should not make people fight one another or commit aggression, rather they should cooperate in doing good and warding off evil (Quran 5:2, 5:5).
“Allah alone is the One who will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection” – Quran 2:113.
“And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best” – Quran 29: 46. “And insult not those who invoke other than Allah, lest they should insult Allah wrongfully without knowledge” – Quran 6:108.
In the light of the above, it is obvious that any view that exhorts Muslims to destroy Christian places of worship is in serious conflict with the letter and spirit of tolerance in the Quran.
The Malaysian Consti­tution honours this spirit. Article 3 states: “Islam is the religion of the Federation; but other religions may be practised in peace and harmony.”
The alleged view of the Saudi Mufti has been repudiated by the top Muslim cleric in Turkey, Mehmet Gormez, who has stated categorically that the Islamic civilisation is not hostile towards previous religions.
Those whose hearts are filled with hate and whose lips drip the blood of vengeance must remind themselves of the caution administered by Kamali that fanaticism is not part of Islam, as the Prophet confirmed in a hadith: “One who promotes fanaticism (asabiyyah) is not one of us, nor is one who fights for asabiyyah, nor the one who dies for asabiyyah.
Shad Saleem Faruqi is Emeritus Pro-fessor of Law at UiTM and a consultant to USM.
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 楼主| 发表于 23-4-2012 09:04 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 黄氏 于 24-4-2012 02:17 PM 编辑
当他知道马来西亚以穆斯林为多数的国家,却很糟糕的时候,他才知道什么叫做穆斯林了。

穆斯林允许在回 ...
翻转全球 发表于 22-4-2012 11:21 PM



伊斯兰是马来西亚的官方宗教。
在马来西亚向来宗教纠纷是属于敏感课题,故此本人不愿多谈信徒纠纷与政治问题。只愿解释宗教来龙去脉。
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 楼主| 发表于 23-4-2012 09:07 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 黄氏 于 24-4-2012 02:17 PM 编辑
關於巴勒斯坦的問題,不是應該和平解決嗎,我很好奇國際不斷報導以色列如何殘酷對待巴勒斯坦人,那麼伊 ...
ben_castiel 发表于 22-4-2012 10:43 PM



无论是谁发动战争,是谁滥杀无辜,就是谁有错。
西方媒体偏向庇护美国立场,也是其中一个问题。局外人通常难以得知进一步探讨。

Wikipedia 本身就泄密了美国种种丑闻,但无论如何似乎扯远了,有空再聊。
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发表于 23-4-2012 09:53 AM | 显示全部楼层
对这些疑问你能解析么?

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发表于 23-4-2012 10:24 AM | 显示全部楼层
雖然我開了不好的先例

但希望大家不要像我降沒有耐心~

讓黃氏將他所有的資料分享出來之後再說~

可以嗎XD
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 楼主| 发表于 23-4-2012 12:07 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 黄氏 于 24-4-2012 02:17 PM 编辑

无所谓,我比较能接受任何疑问。毕竟华社本身相当抗拒伊斯兰。

伊斯兰本身要被评论和诽谤非常容易,反而要解释却很困难。
因为这不是随便几个短片几个文章就能让人明白,当然我也不过是为网友提供基本的了解,看世面就要看全面而并非盲人摸象。

据我所看之前也有相同的帖子,但楼主已经不再发言所以我才决意开帖。
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发表于 23-4-2012 12:52 PM | 显示全部楼层
无所谓,我比较能接受任何疑问。毕竟华社本身相当抗拒伊斯兰。

伊斯兰本身要被评论和诽谤非常容易,反而 ...
黄氏 发表于 23-4-2012 12:07 PM



   我不会引述种种的例子,我只有一个简单的问题:
套用楼主的话,楼主有没有认真探讨过为何华社相当抗拒伊斯兰?
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发表于 23-4-2012 01:56 PM | 显示全部楼层
回复 33# konglong


    我不是楼主。不过,我想回答这个问题。华社为何一直抗拒伊斯兰教,我个人认为是因为对这个宗教的认识度不高,在广义的来说,多半华人对宗教的认识度其实都不高。先别说伊斯兰教,就说说民间信仰和道教吧,多半的人会拜拜,可是问深一层,如何拜,如何摆,他们就会用惘然的眼神看着你,然后问你,需要这样咩??呵呵呵呵

其实华人对宗教的接受程度很高,至少在其它宗教方面如此。对伊斯兰教的误会,其实从童年开始,拜猪头啦,回教堂有猪头啦,老一辈的华人甚至会在大门口上方吊猪骨,这一切一切都是因为不了解而产生。直到大学,开始混马来同学,慢慢地知道其实伊斯兰教并不是想象中那么暴力,那么aggressive.

比起其它的希伯莱系宗教,只要仔细地去看伊斯兰教的教义,不难发现他的温和之处。当然,跟世界其它宗教一样,他还是会有不为人所接受的一面。个人认为,华社之所以对伊斯兰教抗拒,本土的宗教局的管理者还是得负上一定的责任。他们过于保护本土的马来穆斯林,对伊斯兰教过度的沉溺以至在语言方面出现垄断的现象。

(待续)
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发表于 23-4-2012 05:07 PM | 显示全部楼层
当他知道马来西亚以穆斯林为多数的国家,却很糟糕的时候,他才知道什么叫做穆斯林了。

穆斯林允许在回 ...
翻转全球 发表于 22-4-2012 11:21 PM


这是事实,本地非穆斯林对依撕兰教普遍印象都是如此,不见怪。不过,相信这种事只是本地会这样,中国不会吧~
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发表于 23-4-2012 08:11 PM | 显示全部楼层
无论是谁发动战争,是谁滥杀无辜,就是谁有错。
西方媒体偏向庇护美国立场,也是其中一个问题。局外 ...
黄氏 发表于 23-4-2012 09:07 AM



    這我可就不了認同了,中東不是有卡塔爾半島電視臺和伊朗的press tv 嗎?我認為西方媒體報導較為偏向以色列,然而中東和其他回教國家報導則較袒護巴勒斯坦,所以兩者都是半斤八兩,若說巴勒斯坦人多麼可憐多麼無辜,我絕對不會全盤相信。
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发表于 23-4-2012 08:19 PM | 显示全部楼层
回复 34# Kyokyo
我看到的和你有些不一樣,以前在預科班讀書的是后,那時正是以色列空襲加沙,學院的宗教老師把所有穆斯林同學集合在回教堂,用麥克風亢奮地數落以色列多麼殘暴,要罷買與美國和猶太人有關的產品,呼籲大家把以色列給滅了。
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发表于 23-4-2012 09:57 PM | 显示全部楼层
请问,一天礼拜5次需要用到大喇叭,严重打扰其他作息???
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发表于 23-4-2012 10:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
回复 34# Kyokyo


以上大家所言,都不是乱说一通吧?

对于它,我只感到一种 无形的压力和压迫感;

特别是听到『圣战』二字时,更多出一种恐惧感。

为何?为何?

我不批评伊斯兰教,我只想探讨。
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发表于 24-4-2012 01:51 AM | 显示全部楼层
回复  Kyokyo
我看到的和你有些不一樣,以前在預科班讀書的是后,那時正是以色列空襲加沙,學院的宗教老師 ...
ben_castiel 发表于 23-4-2012 08:19 PM

那个时候,我看到穆斯林写要反对基督教。或许,有些穆斯林分不清楚犹太人和基督教的关系。
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