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 楼主| 发表于 12-3-2009 12:41 PM | 显示全部楼层
第二十八轮
Cagliari  负 Genoa
Juventus  胜 Bologna
Palermo  胜 Lecce
Siena  负 AC Milan
Reggina  负 Napoli
Sampdoria  负 AS Roma
Atalanta  和 Torino
Udinese  胜 Catania
Lazio  胜 Chievo
Inter 和 Fiorentina
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发表于 12-3-2009 12:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
现在 Serie A 球队全出局了, 又可以看到一些"例牌"会出现的冷嘲热讽.

老实说, 去争论哪个联赛是最强的, 真的有那么重要吗. EPL 完全占优, so ? 这些东西永远都在变, 曾几何时欧冠也不是 La Liga 或 Serie A 玩完 ? 这些都不过是一个循环.
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 楼主| 发表于 12-3-2009 12:53 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 Chrisky 于 12-3-2009 12:48 PM 发表
现在 Serie A 球队全出局了, 又可以看到一些"例牌"会出现的冷嘲热讽.

老实说, 去争论哪个联赛是最强的, 真的有那么重要吗. EPL 完全占优, so ? 这些东西永远都在变, 曾几何时欧冠也不是 La Liga 或 Serie ...



什么东西都会有人要争着第一的头衔
好比美国和前苏联争着谁先登陆月球
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发表于 12-3-2009 12:59 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 水云间 于 12-3-2009 12:53 PM 发表
什么东西都会有人要争着第一的头衔
好比美国和前苏联争着谁先登陆月球

那可不一样, 足球比赛是永远都会持续下去的东西, 所以胜利者会一直变. 可惜的是, 很多人都不懂"山水有相逢"的道理.

有时候看到的 arguement 真的是蛮幼稚和好笑的.
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发表于 12-3-2009 01:20 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 Chrisky 于 12-3-2009 12:59 PM 发表
那可不一样, 足球比赛是永远都会持续下去的东西, 所以胜利者会一直变. 可惜的是, 很多人都不懂"山水有相逢"的道理.
有时候看到的 arguement 真的是蛮幼稚和好笑的.


那只不过是一些喜欢挑畔,球龄浅球迷的作风。
我有看到一些对手球迷 赞赏 的post。虽然不知道是真心的。
但是,罗马,祖云,国米 都尽力了。
我不会因为失败而去 支持 英超的,别人讽刺是别人的事。

我附录morinho的一句话,意迷看意甲,好像看drama 一样,
和我一样,我一直在寻找 上帝 写的剧本的那个主角。it is destined.  的心态来看意甲。
其实,现在已经是 后传了,
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发表于 12-3-2009 02:06 PM | 显示全部楼层
虽然本届意甲球队欧战成绩糟糕,但事实上本土球员表现不俗

Santon, Balotelli, Giovinco等等
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发表于 12-3-2009 04:09 PM | 显示全部楼层
送他们两句名句:
风水轮流转
尝将冷眼观螃蟹,看你横行到几时

现在是意甲联赛和其他联赛忍辱负重,卧薪尝胆的时候
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发表于 12-3-2009 04:19 PM | 显示全部楼层
随着托内托点球射失,阿森纳淘汰了罗马,成为第四支晋级八强的英超球队,同时也宣告英超再次在和意甲的直接对抗中全面胜出。另一支抽到英超球队的皇马也在和利物浦的对抗中崩盘,弗格森闻知结果后称,最近三年,英超显然具有优势。

  意甲已非英超对手

  上赛季英超完胜意甲,利物浦和阿森纳淘汰了米兰双雄,4场比赛没让对手进一个球,而曼联在晋级路上也淘汰过罗马。本赛季是更匹配的对位抗衡,曼联与国米两个联赛的冠军和领头羊相遇,同处第二位的尤文和切尔西对话,本赛季同样情况不佳的阿森纳与罗马交锋,英超再次全面获胜,应该说,遭受电话门打击后的意甲,短期内难以和英超抗衡。

  在欧战排行上,英超已是第一联赛,60.705分的积分比意甲的48.160分高出不少,目前只有西甲(60.079分)与英超接近,但西甲只有巴萨和皇马两支真正的强队,而英超却有四强,随着皇马的低迷,英超在欧冠中整体强势的局面已不可避免,而意甲所要面对的,是如何避免被德甲赶超的尴尬。

  “节奏”称霸欧洲

  兰帕德在谈到英超球队优势时,曾重点提到了“节奏”这个词,他认为只要英超球队能将比赛纳入自己的节奏,欧陆球队一般很难跟上。在英超,比赛的节奏、对抗、激烈程度和速度明显高出其他联赛一块,这是英超融在血液中的特点。在刚来英超之初,阿森纳的西班牙外援雷耶斯曾说,每当我接球,没等抬头就听到对手的喘气声来到耳边,这种小空间、短时间、高对抗、快节奏的比赛,英超球队普遍适应,而适应不了的人就面临被淘汰的命运,就像雷耶斯。

  以往英超球队面临欧陆对手最大的劣势是技术和战术,但近年来,在这一环节上英超队伍已大步赶了上来。顶尖选手的涌入,大大增强了四强球队的技术含量,托雷斯、贝尔巴托夫、C罗、范佩西等一流选手的技术放在欧洲也是顶级的,而欧陆主教练的引进,也丰富了英超队伍的技战术打法,目前四强中有三位欧陆主帅,利物浦和切尔西都以体系严密著称,曼联的战术运用也是炉火纯青,以往英超队伍面对欧陆球队的劣势,现在已不复存在,而在技战术近乎同等的条件下,英超球队更强壮、更快速,自然会在竞争中占据优势。

  从风格上看,德甲和意甲最先被英超甩掉并不意外,德甲面对南欧队伍的身体优势,在英超队伍面前不值一提;而意甲失去了战术上的领先,节奏过慢的弱点被彻底暴露,去年AC米兰被阿森纳“跑死”、今年在国内联赛中慢悠悠的吉格斯都能在国米面前重现盘带威力、切尔西则以更强的力量和冲击力击倒了意甲的“力量与冲击力派”尤文图斯。

  要打破英超的快节奏法宝,只有在技术上达到相当境界才有可能做到,用更强的技术和控制争取将比赛纳入慢节奏,来克制对手的冲击,放眼欧洲,有望做到这一点的恐怕只有巴萨。本届欧冠联赛,巴萨也被诸多名宿认为是最有希望打破英超垄断的队伍,因为他们拥有最高精尖的技术,以及最顶尖的球星个体。不过在整体态势上,一支巴萨虽然锐利,但毕竟势单力孤,英超四支球队在欧洲的厚重垄断已经形成。

  更富有就更强大

  拉涅利这样评价意甲和英超的差别,“我不认为英超更好,他们只是更富有。”这句话实际上道出了足坛竞争力的实质,球队的根本是阵容、是球员,有钱就能买到好球员,有好球员就有成绩。英超最近几年强势崛起,经济上的巨大优势是根本原因。

  切尔西是一个典型例子,从一支争夺欧冠席位的球队,到两年间连霸英超,阿布的重金投入撑起了斯坦福桥的天空。虽然近两年俄罗斯人投入减少,但这几年的积累仍在,重金推力留下的惯性仍足以保证蓝军处在欧洲一线球队的行列。

  类似的情况在英超几乎普遍,只是档次不同。半数球队有外资注入,大手笔花钱的球队不在少数,曼城、热刺的投入甚至不逊四强,而维拉、桑德兰、西汉姆这样的球队也能动辄投入千万英镑。从本赛季的英超形势看,资本的力量正在向四强之外的队伍蔓延,中下游球队之间微小的积分差距以及四强在本赛季的丢分情况都表明,英超的整体实力在稳步增强,究其原因,不外乎一个钱字。

  英超的实力和影响力,已经在欧洲足坛初步造成“恐慌”,布拉特苦心琢磨出“6+5”新政,普拉蒂尼不顾身份多次抨击资本化英超,其目的恐怕都是限制英超越来越大的优势,避免一家独大的局面。本赛季欧冠首轮淘汰赛英超系数过关,在八强中占据半壁江山,近两个赛季四强中三席归属英超的现象有可能在今年重现,欧足联将再次面对欧冠几乎变成足总杯的现实。

觉得英超对其他联赛的优势就是快节奏和体能占优
他们快节奏打法让对方窒息皇马就是例子
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发表于 12-3-2009 04:50 PM | 显示全部楼层
意大利土产还是 拥有国际护照持有者表现评分回顾:
Roma
Motta - 7.5:  Magnificent once again was the future Italy right-back. Crucified Clichy in the first half, and should have been awarded a penalty on half-time. Almost scored on 22 minutes with a powerful run and shot.
Taddei - 7.0: Impressive. Dummied the ball for Juan's goal, forced one great save from Almunia, and also helped create Baptista's golden miss. Stretchered off at the end of the 90.
Brighi - 7.0: Worked his socks off in the middle-of-the-park, and won back a number of balls.
Tonetto - 6.0: Despite having not played for a month, he was surprisingly consistent down the left. However, he became the villain of the play as he missed the final spot-kick.
Totti - 7.5: Despite being no more than 50 per cent fit, Totti oozed class, and some of his passes and flicks were genius. Assisted Juan's goal and created the seemingly unmissable chance for Baptista 10 minutes from time.
Aquilani - 5.0: Another player who could barely run because of injury, Aquilani was well off the pace.情有可原,受伤付出。

Lyon
Grosso 5.5 - A mixed performance with misplaced passes and some lapses in defensive awareness.

Villarreal
Rossi 6.5嫩草20岁  - Worked really hard up front for his side and even though he didn't have any luck in front of goal himself, he was a threat.

Inter Milan
Santon (6)嫩草18岁 - It was a massive test for the youngster and he was exposed at the second goal, losing the ball in a key area. Otherwise, it's clear that we'll see him again at this level.

Balotelli (7)嫩草18岁 - Had a good game overall, although he faded badly. The youngster gave O'Shea massive headaches during the first half and produced a couple of passes of real quality. He was better on the left than when he popped up on the right, however.

Liverpool
Dossena (7): Came on, got booked for a sloppy challenge, then charged forward to score a chance he couldn't really miss. An unexpectedly eventful cameo.给他赚到

Real Madrid
Cannavaro (3): Showed his age. He has been reborn under Juande Ramos, but the pace of the English game appears to be a bridge too far for the World Cup winner. He made a fool of himself when the first goal was scored, and could not get to grips with the game at all. Subbed on the hour when Madrid went all-out attack. 岁月不留人

Juventus
Buffon: 7.0 - Got hold of a powerful Didier Drogba free-kick that looked like it had suspiciously wrapped itself around the post and passed the line, but was quick to squeeze the ball out back into play to cause confusion into the the linesman's mind and the referee waved play on.

Chiellini: 6.0 - Scooped danger away with relative ease whenever Chelsea flirted with his box. Cautioned for taking out Michael Ballack with a robust sliding challenge. Received a second yellow and was consequently dismissed. There was a challenge involved - that was clean - so presumably it was for a puerile reaction.

Molinaro: 7.5 - An effervescent display down the attacking left back and looked to make things happen. Nicely played. Has good style.

Marchisio: 7.0 - A hard-working and tireless display in a compact unit of three midfielders that seemed to be everywhere. Combined well with Del Piero.

Iaquinta: 7.5 - Opened the scoring in the 18th minute to give the home fans all to hope for. Waited for the right moment before he struck, and coolly rounded the ball past Cech. Made way for Sebastian Giovinco in the second half.

Del Piero: 7.5 - Pressurised Chelsea's box after Iaquinta's opener and had Cech flapping with a powerful shot. Smelt danger, pounced. Worked well in both the final third, and the midfield. Strong headers, one was direct at the glovesman though. Challenged Cech at opportune moments. It was his free kick that led to the penalty which he himself duly, and coolly, slotted home. Cech was beaten.

Giovinco: 7.5 嫩草22岁- Was a real difference maker in the short space of time that he was on the pitch.
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发表于 13-3-2009 08:35 AM | 显示全部楼层
乌鸡 在主场旗开得胜,Udinese 2 - 0 Zenit St Petersburg,(上届冠军)
Quagliarella , Di Natale (penalty),最后5分钟,入两球让对手防不胜防。

土产球员评分:
Coda – 7.0: The 23-year-old was promising from the onset, with a number of good challenges and clearances to set the tone early.

Domizzi – 7.5: An extremely impressive showing from the central defender tonight, a performance that included a world class challenge on Zyryanov after 40 minutes to deny him the chance to open the scoring.

Pasquale – 8.0 : Despite the outstanding form of the back four tonight, this man was undoubtedly the best of them all. He was strong defensively and even managed to get forward more often than not. Had a glorious effort on goal after 51 minutes that was expertly dealt with by Malafeev.

D’Agostino – 7.0:
The Italian midfielder was a little clumsy at times; early on in particular, however he was consistent with his distribution throughout the match. He sent in the cross that led to the penalty being awarded at the death.Pepe – 6.5: Was anonymous early, and this continued for the large part of the opening 70 minutes, as he found it difficult to get going in this match. Having said this though, he was great in the final 20 minutes, especially five minutes from time when his brilliant run and unselfish cut back to Quagliarella set up the opening goal.

Quagliarella – 8.0 : The hitman had a number of opportunities to score over the 90 minutes, including efforts after 18 minutes, when he almost opened the scoring with a header from a Zapata cross, and on 22 mins, when he almost curled it past Malafeev. He got his reward five minutes from time however, as he tapped in his 13th goal of the season from close range.

Di Natale – 8.0 : The Bianconeri captain scored his 16th goal of the campaign, with a coolly converted spot kick in the final minute of stoppage time. In addition to this, he too had a number of chances to beat Malafeev, including a sweet left foot volley that deserved more on 64 minutes, after a great play between he and Quagliarella.

Subs: Obodo 6.0,


视频:
Pepe 的助攻,帮助quagliarella 进球,其实,没真正看过pepe, 好像速度很快。
http://www.footytube.com/page/2/

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发表于 13-3-2009 08:39 AM | 显示全部楼层
有人预测我们意甲udinese很快玩完哦
还好乌鸡争气,2-0打败Zenit
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 楼主| 发表于 13-3-2009 06:12 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 h@RT3r 于 13-3-2009 08:39 AM 发表
有人预测我们意甲udinese很快玩完哦
还好乌鸡争气,2-0打败Zenit


虽然不看好
但是昨天还是赢了一点

home win 2.20
first half / full time 3.70 (没有赢到)
let 1.50 x 4.0

如果是上半场进球
赢三注
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发表于 13-3-2009 06:43 PM | 显示全部楼层

回复 347# 水云间 的帖子

八十五分钟才进球叻
你有没有吓到

赢了多少
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 楼主| 发表于 14-3-2009 09:10 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 h@RT3r 于 13-3-2009 06:43 PM 发表
八十五分钟才进球叻
你有没有吓到

赢了多少


没有看球
来公司才看成绩
没有吓到

几十块新币
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发表于 14-3-2009 12:17 PM | 显示全部楼层
第二十八轮

Cagliari       胜 Genoa
Juventus     胜 Bologna
Palermo      胜 Lecce
Siena          负 AC Milan
Reggina      负 Napoli
Sampdoria 和 AS Roma
Atalanta      胜 Torino
Udinese      和 Catania
Lazio           胜 Chievo
Inter             胜 Fiorentina

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发表于 14-3-2009 07:42 PM | 显示全部楼层

Cagliari  勝  Genoa
Juventus  勝  Bologna
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发表于 14-3-2009 09:36 PM | 显示全部楼层
Cagliari       胜 Genoa
Juventus     胜 Bologna
Palermo      胜 Lecce
Siena          和 AC Milan
Reggina      和 Napoli
Sampdoria 负 AS Roma
Atalanta   胜    Torino
Udinese      负 Catania
Lazio           胜 Chievo
Inter Milan            胜 Fiorentina
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发表于 14-3-2009 10:22 PM | 显示全部楼层
第二十八轮

Cagliari       胜 Genoa
Juventus     胜 Bologna
Palermo      胜 Lecce
Siena          负 AC Milan
Reggina      和 Napoli
Sampdoria 和 AS Roma
Atalanta      胜 Torino
Udinese      和 Catania
Lazio           胜 Chievo
Inter             胜 Fiorentina
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发表于 14-3-2009 10:32 PM | 显示全部楼层
Cagliari  胜  Genoa
Juventus  胜  Bologna
Palermo      胜 Lecce
Siena          负 AC Milan
Reggina      和 Napoli
Sampdoria 和 AS Roma
Atalanta      胜 Torino
Udinese      和 Catania
Lazio           胜 Chievo
Inter             胜 Fiorentina
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发表于 15-3-2009 07:15 AM | 显示全部楼层
Juventus 4-1 Bologna


JUVENTUS
祖云的本土化,后备队荣升第一队,蛮多一下,giovinco 经过欧冠关键战后,大发神威。
希望他陆续有上佳表现。

Buffon: 7.0- Will not be too happy that Mutarelli’s shot beat him through the legs but made a world class reflex save on Di Vaio in the 51st minute.  

Molinaro: 7.0- Made a wonderful tackle to deny Bombardini in the fourth minute and was solid as a rock for the rest of the match.  

Chiellini: 8.0- His powerful forward run won the corner kick that led to Salihamidzic’s goal and kept Di Vaio in his back pocket as well.

Marchisio: 7.5- After a fairly pedestrian first half, he stormed back to take over the midfield in the second 45 minutes and the floodgates opened up in the process.  

Giovinco: 8.5- The pint-sized playmaker caused Bologna all sorts of problems on the left-hand side and was deservedly rewarded with a goal tonight. He was the man of the match. Simply mesmerising this evening.  

Iaquinta: 7.0- You could tell he desperately he wanted to add his name to the score-sheet but it was not to be. Did pick up an assist when he set up Giovinco nicely for Juve’s second goal of the game.  

Del Piero: 8.0- Missed an absolute sitter in the 38th minute but atoned for that error with two goals that put the match beyomd Bologna, and could

感言:
我要点名赞赏ranieri 通常他的阵容,他对球员的包容心,很大,他不会一个小错误,而封杀球员。
而且这只队伍的前景无限,很多年纪轻的。还有借租在genoa 的绝对主力 criscito等,回归后可以组织一支强大的祖云。
就好象当年提拔很多蓝军的ranieri,经过一个赛季,洗礼后,morinho 接手,球员爆发。

Cagliari 0-1 Genoa


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