【秀灵购屋指南及流程交流专区】-只作为参考，建议听从各方的意见方作结论!

hongyy

秀气灵人，
请问买卖地皮的 progress payment， 买方如何依据程序付钱给于卖方？
律师费又如何计算？
通常支付了定金后 -- 〉转名成功，　要多久时间？

谢谢！感恩！

秀气灵人

一手还是二手？ 如果向发展商购买那么就是依据SCHEDULE G来给PAYMENT。

律师费依据土地价格收费。

没有阻扰， 2-5个月不等可以完成。

hongyy

是直接地买卖。私人地。
Schedule G, 有样本吗？

谢谢！

hongyy

[url=http://www.kpkt.gov.my/kpkt/borang/lesen/Schedule_G.pdf]我找到的 Schedule G[/url]
SCHEDULE G
HOUSING DEVELOPMENT (CONTROL AND LICENSING)
ACT 1966
HOUSING DEVELOPMENT (CONTROL AND LICENSING)
REGULATIONS 1989
(Regulation 11(1))
SALE AND PURCHASE AGREEMENT (LAND AND BUILDING)

可是买地就没有所谓， 完成 墙壁、电线、水管等等的程序。。。

stIlL

谢谢搂主的帖！

秀气灵人

有些产业即使是一手直接向发展商购买也不一定是用SCHEDULE G(我不知道什么时候需要用什么时候不需要)。 所以很难说明到底是怎样付款给卖主/发展商。

饶恕我解答不到你。我的主题是关于购屋的， 地皮真的没有什么经验。

flyingfox

[quote]原帖由 秀气灵人 于 26-1-2008 01:47 PM 发表 我的贴终于死灰复燃了。。嘻嘻。

其实很多事情就好像针不刺到肉我们就不能了解到过程中的痛苦， 就等于你第一次看不懂那样， 因为你还没有碰到那些问题。

LEASEHOLD可以RENEW，但是最终的权力还在于政府到底对该土地有作其他用途。 如果他们让我们RENEW， 那么其实该费用等于再供多一次产业。[/quote]

假设一个单位100k~~
30年后想RENEW, 需要付100k???
有没有例子来做个说明??
我觉得这很不合理~~

受个几千块手续费看来比较合理~~~~

秀气灵人

Petaling District and Land Office land administrator Zoal Azha Yusof said the procedures for extending or renewing leases both by developers or individual owners are the same.

He said the extension of leases is governed by Section 197 of the National Land Code 1965, which stipulates that before applying for an extension, the lease must first be surrendered to the state government.

Both developers and leasehold property owners have to fill in a form called Permohonan Serahbalik dan Mohon Semula Tanah Untuk Tujuan Melanjutkan Tempoh Pajakan (application to surrender and re-alienate land to extend lease duration). Those who want their lease extended can opt for either 60 or 99 years.

Zoal said together with the form, the owner also has to submit to the land office a certified copy of the land title, which can be obtained from the office’s registration department, a copy of the current year’s quit rent receipt, personal and land particulars, a copy of the latest assessment receipt, two copies of site plans and a copy of the applicant’s identity card.

Once the office has received the forms, a settlement officer (SO) will be sent to the area to check on the land status to ensure that it is used only for the approved purpose.

“The SO and the planner will then prepare a report to be incorporated in a draft paper for approval, which will be forwarded to the state exco through the district officer,” explained Zoal.

He said the whole process is estimated to take three months, depending on the number of applications received by the land office. However, the exco might take a longer time to approve the applications as it needs to meet first to look into them.

Once the land office has received approval from the exco, it will notify the owner, who will then be required to submit another form, Form 12A, which entails giving back the property to the land administrator for re-alienation.

The re-alienation process is subjected to procedures stipulated under the National Land Code. When the department has receive the Form 12A, it will check to ensure that all the necessary details are in place, for example, whether the latest quit rent had been paid.

If there are any discrepancies, the application will be rejected and property owners will be informed of the decision.

If the application is approved, the land office will issue the “Notice that Land Revenue is Due “ (Form 5A) to the property owner, who will have to pay the premium within three months of the date of the notice.

Upon payment of the premium, the land office will get the land title ready and inform the property owner that it is ready for collection. If the owner is unable to pay the premium, the approval for re-alienation is revoked and the application is deemed withdrawn.

Zoal said the entire surrendering and re-alienating process takes at least one year due. Hence, he advised property owners to start reapplying for an extension at least two to three years before the lease expires.

If the lease has expired, property owners will have no choice but to apply for lease renewal using the Permohonan Pemberimilikan Tanah form (Application for Land Re-alienation). The subsequent procedures are the same as applying for an extension.

However, Zoal warned that once the lease has expired, the property automatically reverts back to the state government and this allows anyone to apply for the land.

“Thus, it is very dangerous to let the lease expire,” he said.

High premiums

Zoal conceded that the trouble with the RTPJ1 draft local plan is due to the fact that residents are upset over the high premium rate imposed. But, he said, the public has to understand that the rate is calculated based on the current market value of properties in the area.

He said the premium charged is based on a formula stipulated in the Selangor Land Rules 1966. For residential areas, the formula is 1/2 x 1/100 x land size x market value of property x tenure of lease. For commercial and industrial properties, the formula is 3/4 x 1/100 x market value of property x tenure of lease.

He said the deciding factor in the formula is the property’s market value. The valuation is done by the Finance Ministry’s Valuation and Property Services Department and is based on the latest transaction values in the area.

Zoal said some owners who are unable to pay the premium, especially those with still some years left on their leases, have withdrawn their applications and opted to wait for land values to drop.

“Some have decided to reapply for extension later but they fail to realise that the rate may rise in tandem with higher property values,” he said.

He added that owners could appeal to the state government to reduce the premium, but they would have to pay up the revised amount within three months. The revision will be considered on a case-to-case basis and will be at the discretion of the state government.

Other variations

However, Raine & Horne International Zaki + Partners associate director James Tan said if the lease is surrendered for re-alienation before the term expires, the years remaining on the lease will have to be forsaken.

He gave the example of the owner of a 99-year leasehold property who decides to surrender his lease and apply for re-alienation in 2002 although its term only expires on Sept 1, 2022.

“When the application is approved, the clock on the new 99-year lease - if it is approved for 99 years - will start. Thus, the remaining 20 years on the lease will be forfeited,” he said.

Tan advised those wanting to renew their leases to do so only when they have 10 years left.

He said he has also come across other variations of leases. Some people had been given 30, 42, and 66 years by various state governments, while others in Sabah and Sarawak had even obtained 999 years!

At the Selangor Science Park, the developer, the Selangor State Development Corp (PKNS) is selling a variety of leases for industrial land, such as 30 years at RM17psf, 60 years lease at RM22.50psf and 99 years at RM36.50psf.

“The are some who prefer to pay more for short leases. For example, those in Sg. Buloh new village with 30 years lease are willing to pay between RM20 to RM30psf, almost close to freehold value,” Tan said.

He said if a developer wants to develop a parcel with 50 years or less left on the lease, it would be more viable to apply to renew the lease to 99 years in order to attract more buyers.

flyingfox

MALAYSIA建国不到50年~~

很多公寓都是99年的~~
还没到期(不过99年的公寓也太旧了些吧)~~
希望情况会改变~~

我的同事最近申请贷款不批准,银行的理由是还有20多年就到期了,
看来买LEASE HOLD的房子, 还真要考虑这点~~

秀气灵人

原帖由 flyingfox 于 29-1-2008 01:08 AM 发表
MALAYSIA建国不到50年~~

很多公寓都是99年的~~
还没到期(不过99年的公寓也太旧了些吧)~~
希望情况会改变~~

我的同事最近申请贷款不批准,银行的理由是还有20多年就到期了,
看来买LEASE HOLD的房子, 还真要考 ...

我国独立50年， 不代表之前是没有政策的。 而且如你所说的， 建国不到50年， 那么你同事的产业何来省下20多年？

秀气灵人

对不起， 还是你朋友的是60年LEASE？

qq9

事情是这样的，我买了一套房子，条件完全符合新的减半的政府印花税政策。从一开始签约时我就再三跟与律师说我的房子可以印花税减半，所以当时签S&P时，律师需要我交印花税的钱4000元，我不肯，他说我可以先不交，但是不能只交一半，因为要直到政府确定是要减半时才能还给我们，结果我想着问题不大就交了。现在就惨了，律师楼那边我昨天打电话去问，竟然发现他们根本没有替我申请扣减印花税，而且还跟我说，要取消所有的File，重新申请，费时至少一个月才可以，而且MOP要正式的，不能是复印的，所以不能先向土地局申请换名字，（我已走到换名字这步了）。现在惨了，我该怎么办呢？请问一下：
1、申请refund是否要正式的MOP，如果是的话，那么10-12间买房子的人，岂不是都不能refund?
2、对方说可能refund不到，要取消所有的File重做，那会中罚款的（S&P快到期了），那这错失应该谁付？在月头时我已打过电话给律师楼，特意问过当时还没交印花税的，特意问他们那什么时候可以refund那钱给我，但是现在他们竟然说没有替我申请。
3、而更气人的是，原来一直跟我接洽的根本没有一个正式的律师，全是律师楼的marketing人员，而帮我办的更是一个新来的人，还没正式转正为律师的，还在实习期间，我是被当成白老鼠了，所以在这种情况之下，如果那2000元refund拿不到，我可以告他们要求赔偿吗？

qq9

对不起，上面写错了，更改一下：10-12月期间买房子的人

好美丽

请教,什么是 state of consent? 律师 ask me to pay RM700 to get a state of consent ... 我不明白..

秀气灵人

他们有让你签SURAT AKUAN BERKANUN吗.？ 如果没有肯定不能申请的。

是的， 程序是需要付整数然后律师LHDN申请rebate。 但是没有可能做不到的， 只要你符合条件。

可以告他们！

秀气灵人

通常LEASEHOLD的房子才需要STATE CONSENT的。 就等于说无论你要卖、买、贷款、或则转让给人都需要土地局的批准。

律师工会规定STANDARD律师费是RM300而已， 及一些杂费如打印， CTC TITLE， AFFIRMATION， REGISTRATION FEE。 700 应该OK。

好美丽

原帖由 秀气灵人 于 29-1-2008 05:46 PM 发表
通常LEASEHOLD的房子才需要STATE CONSENT的。 就等于说无论你要卖、买、贷款、或则转让给人都需要土地局的批准。

律师工会规定STANDARD律师费是RM300而已， 及一些杂费如打印， CTC TITLE， AFFIRMATION， REGIST ...

我的condo是Freehold ..   Normally, developer's lawyer will in charge of State of Consent or 银行的律师？买的时候nobody tell me needs to pay for the state of consent ... sigh

秀气灵人

如果二手， 卖主律师需要办理一切手续。 如果是向发展商， 卖方律师及贷款律师都需要申请。 所以很花上6个月的时间的。

你是FOREIGNER？ 因为FREEHOLD通常不需要CONSENT的。 尤其还是第一手的。

秀气灵人

你是FOREIGNER？ CONSENT有很多种， 一种是FOREIGNER的， 一种是因为有RESTRICTION而需要批准的， 一种是将来要申请STRATA TITLE而批准的。

所以我不知道你说的是那种。 如果是因为RESTRICTION的， 那么买家律师及贷款律师都必须申请， 一个叫CONSENT TO TRANSER， 贷款的叫CONSENT TO CHARGE， 通常花上6个月以上时间。

秀气灵人

你是FOREIGNER？ CONSENT有很多种， 一种是FOREIGNER的， 一种是因为有RESTRICTION而需要批准的， 一种是将来要申请STRATA TITLE而批准的。

所以我不知道你说的是那种。 如果是因为RESTRICTION的， 那么买家律师及贷款律师都必须申请， 一个叫CONSENT TO TRANSER， 贷款的叫CONSENT TO CHARGE， 通常花上6个月以上时间。