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【红魔坊酒吧216】范加爾! 曼聯這家野,你識條鐵咩

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发表于 23-12-2015 02:28 PM | 显示全部楼层
根据星报首席记者Jeremy Cross(星报报道曼联消息唯一靠谱的记者)的消息:虽然有报道说一旦曼联输给斯托克城或者是切尔西,范加尔就会辞职。但是根据我们掌握的消息目前范加尔没有任何辞职的打算,并且他已经向高层表示,如果俱乐部想要换帅的话只有解雇他这一条路。
一位曼联内部人士透露:范加尔指出他不辞职并不是为了钱,而是由于他坚定地相信自己有能力让曼联的情况好转。
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发表于 23-12-2015 02:46 PM | 显示全部楼层
水手一月山 发表于 23-12-2015 11:15 AM
这两篇讲述了莫里尼奥从年轻时到车仔的经历,玩法,可以一读。重点,他对强强对话大赛的玩法,或他的哲学是 ...

感觉好像句句刺中曼联要害(现在的状况)这样
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发表于 23-12-2015 03:03 PM | 显示全部楼层
筷子 发表于 23-12-2015 02:28 PM
根据星报首席记者Jeremy Cross(星报报道曼联消息唯一靠谱的记者)的消息:虽然有报道说一旦曼联输给斯托克 ...

老范执教生涯最后一击了,他想完美落幕退休吧
胶着椅子勤力写笔记就是为了日后出本足球哲学书啊

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发表于 23-12-2015 03:12 PM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 23-12-2015 03:13 PM | 显示全部楼层
筷子 发表于 23-12-2015 12:20 PM
【旧新闻】鲁梅尼格谈范加尔下课:“直到范加尔下课前一场比赛,他仍在试验中卫组合,整个赛季他一直在重复 ...

Smalling+Blind 的中卫组合证明是错误的开始,当时就是依靠传控来掩盖后防的弱点,
最初前几场没什么问题,因为对手还不了解曼联新的战术,
直道被斯旺西玩爆后防后才发现曼联后防的弱点,
再经过阿森纳的疯狂式逼抢更显着曼联脆弱的防守组织,
过后的对手就是针对这种打法来对抗曼联。



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发表于 23-12-2015 03:18 PM | 显示全部楼层
arzo06 发表于 23-12-2015 03:03 PM
老范执教生涯最后一击了,他想完美落幕退休吧
胶着椅子勤力写笔记就是为了日后出本足球哲学书啊
...

我覺得他去做pundit應該不錯
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发表于 23-12-2015 03:32 PM | 显示全部楼层
arzo06 发表于 23-12-2015 03:13 PM
Smalling+Blind 的中卫组合证明是错误的开始,当时就是依靠传控来掩盖后防的弱点,
最初前几场没什么问 ...

范2通过传控解决后防问题是不错的路子。。。
只是进攻套路无法多样化,拖累了后防。。。



像包老说的,控球=控制比赛。。。

现在范式曼联的战术(满分5颗星):
中场传来传去=解决防守(4颗星)。。。
组织者偶尔来个直塞进攻(2颗星)。。。
直塞不到就用技术球员的个人能力一路推到底线(2颗星)。。。
不然就是费莱尼接高球协助球员跑动,拿球或做球给队友(1颗星)。。。


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发表于 23-12-2015 03:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
筷子 发表于 23-12-2015 01:28 PM
忘了还有林干。。。

英格兰近年来出产的年轻国家都一个个倒下。。。

因为贝尔是威尔士人。。。虽然威尔士也属大英帝国,但是主权在英格兰这边。。:¥
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发表于 23-12-2015 03:49 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 ~WindGod~ 于 23-12-2015 03:51 PM 编辑

"范加尔指出他不辞职并不是为了钱,而是由于他坚定地相信自己有能力让曼联的情况好转"

球迷一路來都信你講的話,可是每次都重復同樣的問題,忍到最後什麽也沒實現,最後變成認爲你是車大炮
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发表于 23-12-2015 03:56 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
MR.Beck 发表于 23-12-2015 03:48 PM
因为贝尔是威尔士人。。。虽然威尔士也属大英帝国,但是主权在英格兰这边。。:¥

据说英国某间大电讯公司的代言人正是bale。。。
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发表于 23-12-2015 04:03 PM | 显示全部楼层
筷子 发表于 23-12-2015 03:56 PM
据说英国某间大电讯公司的代言人正是bale。。。




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发表于 23-12-2015 04:10 PM | 显示全部楼层
What would Jose Mourinho's Manchester United team look like if he took over at Old Trafford?

Coaching staff

Having worked with them at in his last four jobs, you could expect Jose Mourinho to bring in Rui Faria, Silvino Louro, Jose Morais and Carlos Lalin if he gets the nod to replace Louis Van Gaal.

The Dutchman's coaching staff, including the likes of goalkeeping coach Frans Hoek, would be unlikely to stay but the key decision would be what to do with Ryan Giggs .

On one hand you'd expect Giggs would be welcomed by Mourinho, who has embraced former players when arriving at clubs before. Aitor Karanka, now topping the Championship with Middlesbrough, was the chosen assistant at Real Madrid - where Mourinho threw him in at the deep end on several occasions by skipping press conferences.

Would Giggs, until now the heir apparent to LvG, be willing to be number two though?

Having been seemingly promised the job, for Jose Mourinho to roll into town and take what was rightfully his would be a kick in the teeth. Would the Welshman stick around as second in charge or would he look to get away and forge his own path?

It could be a headache for senior figures at Old Trafford.


Playing style and current squad


Until this year we felt like we knew what to expect from a Jose Mourinho team: Defensive solidity, a physical core and one striker.

The decline of his centre-backs, Nemanja Matic's form and Diego Costa's general state of being mean that none of those three have been evident but there are building blocks for him to use at Manchester United if he is chosen to succeed Van Gaal.

Chris Smalling would likely form the base for his defence while the days of Daley Blind and Marcos Rojo playing centre-back would surely be numbered and Phil Jones could become an Ivanovicesque right-back.

Bastian Schweinsteiger appears to have the sort of mentality that Mourinho likes in a senior player, but there would be questions over Morgan Schneiderlin - who Mourinho allowed Tottenham, Arsenal and United to bid for without showing any interest.

Juan Mata's future would obviously be thrown into doubt, but Ander Herrera could probably expect a fresh start and possibly a role similar to that of Oscar in Chelsea's title triumph (before he was denied his wish to leave).

Wayne Rooney was once a player that Mourinho was desperate to sign, but that was a far different player to what we've seen in the last six months from the England captain.


Ins and outs


Manchester United's long-term interest in Cristiano Ronaldo would surely hit the buffers were Jose to be hired.

Their relationship soured hugely at Real Madrid and, with Paris Saint-Germain having pursued him for so long and so persistently, the move to Ligue 1 would make the most sense.

Given United's need for a central defender and Chelsea's very public pursuit of John Stones in the summer, there is an obvious target to plug that gap - but Everton won't budge easily.

Players at risk of the chop would be the defenders mentioned above, Marcos Rojo and Daley Blind, plus Antonio Valencia and Ashley Young .


Academy


It has been one of the major concerns over Jose Mourinho's record that he has brought through very few players from the youth teams at clubs where he was manager.

And the few example of him doing so are often during highly-toxic situations - remember the promotion of Antonio Adán at the expense of Iker Casillas during Real Madrid's Mourinho-inspired civil war.

Chelsea's loan army may make good business sense but the success of some of the departed loanees - Kevin de Bruyne and Romelu Lukaku in particular - has become a stick to beat Mourinho with for his lack of faith in youngsters.

It's all very well and good saying they're not good enough until their performances elsewhere prove otherwise.

One of the few Louis van Gaal bright spots at Old Trafford has been the amount of youngsters he has blooded in the first team, so Mourinho would be expected to at least find some sort of middle ground.


Behaviour and reputation


There's no doubt that Jose Mourinho's reputation has taken a pummelling since August, with the Eva Carneiro affair, results slipping and his frequent paranoid outbursts not reflecting well on the Portuguese.

Given that, according to most reports, Mourinho didn't replace Sir Alex Ferguson in 2013 because there were concerns among th Old Trafford hierarchy about The Special One's behaviour and how it might affect a club like United, the fact that the club is considering him now suggests a shift in policy.

But with that history, you'd have to expect Ed Woodward to remind Mourinho from the outset that his previous behaviour won't be tolerated at United. For the first time in a long time, Jose is unlikely to be taking a job on his terms. There are only so many demands you can make in his position and, should he take over at Man United, we could see a more mellow Mourinho than ever.




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如果V2 被炒,大家都忘了王老吉也有可能离开曼联的风险。。。  发表于 23-12-2015 04:18 PM
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发表于 23-12-2015 04:17 PM | 显示全部楼层
Everton are reportedly being lined up for a takeover from an American-led consortium in just six weeks.

The consortium is already performing checks on the club accounts with the view to a blockbuster £200m deal, according to the Times.
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发表于 23-12-2015 04:19 PM | 显示全部楼层
Stoke boss Mark Hughes insists that Manchester United’s fans have every right to slam their under-performing flops – because they used to boo Sir Alex Ferguson too.
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发表于 23-12-2015 04:22 PM | 显示全部楼层
5 players who have let Louis van Gaal down at Manchester United this season

Wayne Rooney


United required an inspirational leader this season, but skipper Rooney, desperately out of form, has fallen short of what is expected of him.

The 30-year-old marked his 500th appearance with another ignominious showing in the defeat by Norwich at the weekend and now has just two goals in 13 Premier League appearances.


Bastian Schweinsteiger


The World Cup winner has failed to justify the hype that greeted his summer move from Bayern Munich and is currently serving a three-match ban for violent conduct.

Not as mobile as he once was, he's proven too ponderous in possession and has often been by-passed by opposing midfielders.



Memphis Depay



Another who has failed to deliver, having arrived with a burgeoning reputation, costing £25million from PSV Eindhoven.

Has faded after a decent start and simply doesn’t influence enough games - looks short on confidence.


Marcos Rojo


Failed to make tail-end of United’s US pre-season tour because of visa issue and returned to training in poor shape.

Out after shoulder surgery, but has proven erratic even when fully fit.


Phil Jones


Cannot be relied upon to stay fit, injuries restricting him to four Premier League starts.

Culpable for Norwich’s opener in Saturday’s 2-1 defeat and still questions remain over his best position.



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发表于 23-12-2015 05:51 PM | 显示全部楼层
筷子 发表于 22-12-2015 08:14 PM
我记得saf很想打传控,但研究,开发或打到不理想。。。

最后研究到半前场传控。。。也就是媒体说的乱 ...

可以,绝对能生存…曼城已经拥有他要玩的球员…

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发表于 23-12-2015 06:13 PM | 显示全部楼层
曼联官方到现在还没有宣布范加尔今天发布会的时间。。。
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