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发表于 10-8-2025 09:30 AM
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本帖最后由 lcw9988 于 10-8-2025 10:32 AM 编辑
你才吹牛B ! 天琴团队当然是收到多个回波的数据(反射所须时间), 计算平均值, 再用公式算出月距啦, 重点是收到回波(证实月面安装了反射镜), 共狗官方也证实了收到回波, 你像一个文科生去挑战理工生样, 这叫不要脸秀下限, 笑死人 !
c = 299,792,458 m/s,
Time = 从发射激光到收到回波所须时间的平均值
Distance to Moon = 𝑐 × Time / 2
用公式算出叫统计法? 原來你连初中数学也不会 ! 
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发表于 10-8-2025 09:51 AM
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本帖最后由 lcw9988 于 10-8-2025 09:30 PM 编辑
要解决翻滚问题太容易? 你说一下怎样解决翻滚, 嘴炮有用吗?
1) 空投下去后怎样確定反射镜面朝上?
2) 空投下去后怎样调整角度对准面向地球?
3) 怎样判断反射镜着陸点的稳定性?
4) 月尘"粘稠"是公认的, 怎样確定投下去的反射镜不被月尘覆盖?
反射镜安装步骤如下 :-
a) 宇航员从着陸器拿一个名为 LRRR（Lunar Ranging Retro Reflector) 的设备, 重约 11公斤的反射镜下去月面.
b) 安装在一个带脚架的金属基座上；
c) 宇航员将其放置在平坦、朝向地球的区域，确保反射面稳定且对准地球方向, 对准地球方向非常关键。角反射器要面朝地球，否则激光束无法反射回来。当时月球表面地形不平，不能靠机械自动释放，需要宇航员判断地面稳定性.
我已说出NASA如何安装反射镜的步骤, 轮到你了, 你说一下你怎样空投的, 坐等你漏洞百处的空投说法, 再打脸你 ! !
把小粉红当猴耍真爽, 增添许多乐趣, oh yeah !
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发表于 10-8-2025 10:42 AM
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有个美国宪兵的后代已经录影片爆料? 拿出证据來, 嘴炮有用吗? 
我也有NASA工程师证实反射镜人工安装在月面 !
想要看证据? 用你证据交换啰 ! 中华胶又缩春了, oh yeah !
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发表于 11-8-2025 06:34 PM
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前面说的很清楚，我就不重复了。
你要拿出证据来说话！
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发表于 11-8-2025 06:39 PM
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这个应该是傻子才会那样说的。
本人在第一页已经反驳了：
1）如果是接近月球，然后投放，那么这个反射面，就未必向着天上，就无法反射来自地球的光线了。反射器必须“水平放置、朝上”，误差几度就会影响反射回地球；自由落体无法确保姿态。
2）从几十米自由落体仍会损坏精密光学镜面，特别是角隅棱镜结构极易碎裂，它从高空投下来，镜子就碎了，散架了，哪来的正常反射光线？
3）为了防止灰尘遮盖这个反射面，反射面下部必须有支架立起，让反射面远离地面。所以必须用过外力，让这个支架直立的插入/固定在地面上。如果是高空投放，就不会直立起，就会累积灰尘(lunar dust)，那么地球是不会接收到反射的光线了。
4）苏联的月球1号和月球2号Lunokhod，也是通过月球车来部署的，从高空投放，基本不可能部署成功。
5）月球表面不平坦，落在倾斜地形或碎石上都会导致反射面偏移或埋入月壤。简单来说，你在布置反射器的时候，如果地面不平，你还要调整角度，让其达到水平线朝上！
6）LRR 是定向设备，需面向地球（或在任意角度都能反射回地球），投放姿态失控将失去功能。
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发表于 11-8-2025 07:31 PM
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从高空投放月球车，与高空投放反射镜的难度差不多！
莫非苏联能做到，美国不可以？
我这里问的是要证明登月安装，要有安装过程的记录，麻烦你们拿出来看看。
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发表于 11-8-2025 07:34 PM
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只有那些没物理知识的小粉红才会这么说, 叫他们反驳如何解决以下问题却不敢哼一声 !
1) 空投下去后怎样確定反射镜面朝上?
2) 空投下去后怎样调整角度对准面向地球?
3) 怎样判断反射镜着陸点的稳定性?
4) 月尘"粘稠"是公认的, 怎样確定投下去的反射镜不被月尘覆盖?
@Mr.Bean
@oyak999
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发表于 11-8-2025 07:35 PM
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本帖最后由 lcw9988 于 11-8-2025 07:52 PM 编辑
苏联空投月球车? 证据在那里? 你别笑死人了 !
苏联的月球车是在着陆器里的, 着陆器下降到月面后, 着陆器打开仓门让月球车开下月面 ! 不会就别秀下限 !
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发表于 11-8-2025 07:37 PM
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这个是你的猪队友@Mr.Bean说的, 我只是反諷忽悠他, 你看不出來? 傻 B小粉红 !
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发表于 11-8-2025 07:38 PM
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不倒翁是什么原理，小孩子都知道吧？
调整角度，可以遥控么。
美国怎么解决月尘，苏联当然也可以。
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本帖最后由 lcw9988 于 11-8-2025 08:01 PM 编辑
以下就是NASA安装反射镜的过程 : -
How Apollo 11 installed the Lunar Ranging Retro-Reflector — step-by-step (concise)
Below is a plain, chronological description of what Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong actually did on the surface when they deployed the LRRR (the small passive array of corner-cube mirrors used to bounce lasers from Earth). I cite the mission transcript/photo record and the LRRR/ALSEP deployment manual for the most important details.
NASA
LPI
Open the LM SEQ (scientific equipment) bay and expose the experiments.
The EASEP instruments (PSEP seismometer + the LRRR) were stowed on a flight pallet inside a compartment in the LM descent stage. The astronaut opened the hinged doors and peeled back the lanyard/tape to release the packages.
Pull the LRRR/pallet out of the compartment.
The package was attached to rails/boom and had a pip-pin / lanyard retention. Aldrin pulled the unit a bit out, disconnected the lanyard, and then pulled the pin to free it. (On Apollo 11 a wire ring on the pip-pin opened and Aldrin had to manipulate the pin by hand — the event is described in the EVA transcript/debrief.)
Lower the LRRR assembly to the lunar surface and separate it from the pallet.
The crew set the pallet/assembly down next to the LM, removed or discarded the flight pallet, and separated the LRRR from the pallet so it could be carried. (The formal familiarization/manual lists these exact steps as the standard deployment procedure.)
Carry the LRRR to the chosen deployment spot (a short walk).
For ALSEP deployments later the nominal deployment distance could be several hundred feet, but Apollo 11’s EASEP was designed to be quick — the astronauts carried the experiments only a short distance (the transcript/photos show Aldrin setting the LR-cube down only a few dozen feet from the LM). The EASEP/LRRR was explicitly designed to be deployable quickly (within the short EVA time available).
Put the LRRR on its supports and, if present, extend the leveling leg.
The LRRR family of units had a handling interface and a quick-release pin retaining a leveling leg. The manual instructs the crew to release/extend the leveling leg (or rest the array on its rear supports), then use the handling tool to hold/rotate the unit into attitude. For Apollo 11 the crew set the array on the surface as shown in the photos.
Remove the dust/thermal cover, rotate to deployment attitude and level/align it.
The formal procedure: use the universal handling tool (UHT) to remove the cover, rotate the array to the deployment angle (manual gives ~18° for later versions), then use the sun-compass (the “sundial” shadow index) and an on-board bubble level to azimuthally point the array toward Earth and to center the bubble for leveling. On Apollo 11 the crew made an initial, approximate orientation toward Earth and photographed the placed array; the LRRR manual documents the precise alignment procedure that was followed for the deployed arrays.
Final checks and leave it in place.
After alignment and removal of the handling tool, the array was left on the surface. The LRRR is passive (no power required); ground laser-ranging teams later acquired returns from the array (first returns were detected in the days/weeks after deployment).
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本帖最后由 lcw9988 于 11-8-2025 08:16 PM 编辑
嫦娥三号（Chang'e 3）月球探测器
发射时间：2013年12月
着陆地点：雨海（Mare Imbrium）
反射镜位置：安装在月球车**“玉兔号”**上
类型：激光角反射器（Laser Corner Cube Reflector，LCCR）
用途：用于精密测距和验证测距技术，但由于着陆地点远离地球主要激光观测站，且角度受限，目前尚未获得有效激光反射回波。
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发表于 11-8-2025 08:07 PM
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本帖最后由 lcw9988 于 11-8-2025 08:28 PM 编辑
你不会英文吗
Carry the LRRR to the chosen deployment spot (a short walk).
For ALSEP deployments later the nominal deployment distance could be several hundred feet, but Apollo 11’s EASEP was designed to be quick — the astronauts carried the experiments only a short distance (the transcript/photos show Aldrin setting the LR-cube down only a few dozen feet from the LM). The EASEP/LRRR was explicitly designed to be deployable quickly (within the short EVA time available).
Put the LRRR on its supports and, if present, extend the leveling leg.
The LRRR family of units had a handling interface and a quick-release pin retaining a leveling leg. The manual instructs the crew to release/extend the leveling leg (or rest the array on its rear supports), then use the handling tool to hold/rotate the unit into attitude. For Apollo 11 the crew set the array on the surface as shown in the photos.
Remove the dust/thermal cover, rotate to deployment attitude and level/align it.
The formal procedure: use the universal handling tool (UHT) to remove the cover, rotate the array to the deployment angle (manual gives ~18° for later versions), then use the sun-compass (the “sundial” shadow index) and an on-board bubble level to azimuthally point the array toward Earth and to center the bubble for leveling. On Apollo 11 the crew made an initial, approximate orientation toward Earth and photographed the placed array; the LRRR manual documents the precise alignment procedure that was followed for the deployed arrays.
和我早在几个星期前写的完全吻合 ! 又打你脸了
a) 宇航员从着陸器拿一个名为 LRRR（Lunar Ranging Retro Reflector) 的设备, 重约 11公斤的反射镜下去月面.
b) 安装在一个带脚架的金属基座上；
c) 宇航员将其放置在平坦、朝向地球的区域，确保反射面稳定且对准地球方向, 对准地球方向非常关键。角反射器要面朝地球，否则激光束无法反射回来。当时月球表面地形不平，不能靠机械自动释放，需要宇航员判断地面稳定性.
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发表于 11-8-2025 08:16 PM
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本帖最后由 lcw9988 于 11-8-2025 08:27 PM 编辑
你还要什么? 角度18度都说明了, 要锁螺丝钉細节吗?
Rotate the array to the deployment angle (later versions of the manual give a deployment angle of about 18 degrees), then use the sun compass ("sundial" shadow indicator) and the onboard bubble level to point the array towards the earth.
轮到你了, 你说一下你怎样空投的, 坐等你漏洞百处的空投说法, 再打脸你 ! !
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发表于 11-8-2025 08:31 PM
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我说了，我连美国是否有反射镜都怀疑。
你相信，就应该由你用证据来证明安装过程，而不是用这些文字。
登月影片和照片那么多，一个都没有吗？
空抛只是我的设想，毕竟苏联装在月球车上空抛成功。
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发表于 11-8-2025 08:31 PM
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瞎编空投很多漏洞, 不如你说用IRONMAN安装更容易, 图都帮你画好了
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