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【12/13赛季英超联赛第30轮】SOUTHAMPTON 3-1 LIVERPOOL 蘇東殺紅鳥

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发表于 18-3-2013 08:58 AM | 显示全部楼层
Jjiet 发表于 17-3-2013 09:31 PM
我不认同直接卖掉A24 他还很年轻 当年来的h14和lucas也是不受看好 现在也一直在进步 但我赞同不应该让他首 ...

我不是因为他差而已才觉的应该卖掉他,而是觉得他的存在会倒至红军发展不健康。。你看,现在不论踢A24的有多烂,还是受伤了,BR还是会一直找机会给他踢,只要他在一场踢的还ok时,马上下一场肯定是正选,这对其他表现比他更好的球员公平吗?如果他继续待在红军,这种情况肯定会继续下去,这个问题反而阻碍红军的发展
也许他以後会成名,但那是未来的事,谁会知到什麽事情会发生。。但现在他的存在阻碍著红军的发展是事实

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发表于 18-3-2013 09:19 AM | 显示全部楼层
tapahkheong99 发表于 17-3-2013 07:21 PM
罗杰斯:失利无可抱怨,吸取教训放眼未来

罗帅太保护球队
球员带着 “哦 犯错下次再改进" 的心态去踢
要知道 未来球队如果要争冠
越少犯错的球队机会越大
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发表于 18-3-2013 12:22 PM | 显示全部楼层
BR不应该做主帅,他应该做球队发言人。每次输球,都很会转,转到最后,都是球队不在状态金或者慢热而已,没有人犯错,也没有人被鸟。而他当然也没有鸟过自己。他经手续约过的人全部表现走样。他和河神是兄弟吗?

Skrtel可以卖掉了,发了牢骚,放你上场踢,结果踢到这样。Agger也不见得很好,他和Skrtel可以趁还有价钱卖出去了,叫他们回家纹身纹饱他。

Allen毕竟是BR的私生子,我绝对了解做父亲要儿子扬名立万的心情。至少也要让儿子有机会上场证明“威尔斯Xavi”的绰号名副其实。
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发表于 18-3-2013 12:32 PM | 显示全部楼层
每次看br, 输球如果有错,一定是球员不给力。
br的阵法排阵是完美无缺的。

赢球时也是看到我吐血的打法
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发表于 18-3-2013 01:02 PM | 显示全部楼层
原来红军楼比其他人跟了解BR。。。
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发表于 18-3-2013 01:21 PM | 显示全部楼层
latte3948 发表于 18-3-2013 12:22 PM
BR不应该做主帅,他应该做球队发言人。每次输球,都很会转,转到最后,都是球队不在状态金或者慢热而已,没 ...

卖掉skrtel, agger,谁上?建议下
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发表于 18-3-2013 01:37 PM | 显示全部楼层
latte3948 发表于 18-3-2013 12:22 PM
BR不应该做主帅,他应该做球队发言人。每次输球,都很会转,转到最后,都是球队不在状态金或者慢热而已,没 ...

直接卖掉两个的是脑生草的

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发表于 18-3-2013 02:27 PM | 显示全部楼层
和往常一样,一输球,就会有很多专业人士出来了。。。。
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发表于 18-3-2013 02:41 PM | 显示全部楼层
我对BR的排阵不愿多加评论,虽然我玩FM经验可能丰富过他。
人家毕竟是现实中球会的教练,怎样都比外人还清楚球会的内部出了什么问题。

我只认为球赛输了在媒体面前指名道姓地骂球员不是明智的行为。
该骂的当然要骂,但不是在媒体面前。
想象一下如果你的老板登报纸大大力插你你工作表现不佳,你有何感想,你的同事又如何想?

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jay_loon + 3 认同~在更衣间的事球迷是不清楚的~当然是关.
姜維 + 3 确实

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发表于 18-3-2013 02:47 PM | 显示全部楼层
latte3948 发表于 18-3-2013 12:22 PM
BR不应该做主帅,他应该做球队发言人。每次输球,都很会转,转到最后,都是球队不在状态金或者慢热而已,没 ...

不要卖掉我的阿格吖!

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latte3948 + 1 哈哈。我没本事卖掉。

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发表于 18-3-2013 03:45 PM | 显示全部楼层
痞子酷 发表于 18-3-2013 02:41 PM
我对BR的排阵不愿多加评论,虽然我玩FM经验可能丰富过他。
人家毕竟是现实中球会的教练,怎样都比外人 ...

我反而觉得 不是明智或否的问题
而是教练可用的小手段
表现好高度表扬 表现不好当众小弹一下
说不定有良性刺激效用 球员领高薪 抗压能力也要有相当程度才行吧
个人觉得

况且, 现在大部分老板的老板(球迷)都是极端的罗曼.阿布拉莫维奇 (别走 我炒定你啦!)
球员们的表现是公开的话题 教练也需要对外交代
不同的是~ 你在你的公司里做错事不会有记者来采访你老板吧~








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发表于 18-3-2013 04:47 PM | 显示全部楼层
黑色芝士 发表于 18-3-2013 03:45 PM
我反而觉得 不是明智或否的问题
而是教练可用的小手段
表现好高度表扬 表现不好当众小弹一下

小弹当然可以,但不是用插啦。
这里的网友们给我的感觉就像恨不得看到BR在媒体前大大力插他们够够力。
BR也不是完全的好好先生来的。
Downing和Enrique表现持续低迷时他也曾经弹过他们,警告可能会被卖掉。

我是认为几场失利还不至于要捉特定球员在媒体前骂啦。
说不定他私下已经在更衣室骂个狗血淋头 ,加罚他们抄写一千遍了也说不定。

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发表于 18-3-2013 04:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
你們不要這樣。。。贏也吵,輸也吵
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发表于 18-3-2013 04:55 PM | 显示全部楼层
龙之骄子 发表于 18-3-2013 04:48 PM
你們不要這樣。。。贏也吵,輸也吵

对嘛。
大家都是红军支持者,干嘛要吵来吵去的。











直接动手就好了嘛。
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发表于 18-3-2013 05:47 PM | 显示全部楼层
痞子酷 发表于 18-3-2013 04:47 PM
小弹当然可以,但不是用插啦。
这里的网友们给我的感觉就像恨不得看到BR在媒体前大大力插他们够够力 ...

可能已经在更衣室里干起架来了

我想
大家都是纯发泄吧~ 赌大了
又或者他们表面上很生气酱 其实只是想要偷灌水赚分?
不求同气相投 但求和谐共处

不过
那天我军的状态好不好不说,心态却明显出问题
希望接下来的比赛会更好吧
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发表于 18-3-2013 08:57 PM | 显示全部楼层
latte3948 发表于 18-3-2013 12:22 PM
BR不应该做主帅,他应该做球队发言人。每次输球,都很会转,转到最后,都是球队不在状态金或者慢热而已,没 ...

你终于要去做liv的教练了
那你要买谁来替换中卫组合
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 楼主| 发表于 18-3-2013 09:17 PM | 显示全部楼层
昨天在網上看見的分析。不錯下~
Rodgers Needs To Practice What He Preaches

Anyone familiar with my writing will know I’m a huge fan of Brendan Rodgers and the style of football he has brought to Liverpool this season. I’ve defended him in the past when many were criticising, and tried to explain what he was trying to do when things have gone wrong, as well as what he might try to do in the future. So it might come as a surprise that, for me, the defeat to Southampton was entirely Brendan Rodgers’ fault.

Everybody makes mistakes, they are just part of the learning process. But to make the same mistake twice, or three times as Brendan Rodgers has now done, is a sign of either stubbornness, stupidity or arrogance.

When Rodgers picked only two midfielders against Oldham he was perhaps arrogant to underestimate his lower-league opponents. He repeated the same mistake against Spurs, until bringing on Allen to add an extra body in midfield – a change that helped turn the match around. So to what do we owe him making the same mistake for a third time against Southampton?

Each time we’ve looked like finding some consistency this season we’ve abruptly come unstuck, usually to lower opposition. Sometimes a run of good results can cause players to become complacent, but players don’t pick the team, and despite many of the players under-performing, this defeat was down to a tactical mistake.

Physical Presence in Midfield

Let us be clear: when playing a 4-2-3-1 formation with attacking players occupying the ‘3’, the ‘2’ behind them must be strong defensively and have a physical presence. When Benitez played a 4-2-3-1 at Liverpool, he did so with Alonso and Mascherano (or before him, Sissoko) as the two holding players and Steven Gerrard – who is now being asked to perform a more defensive role in Brendan Rodgers’ side – ahead of them. While Alonso wouldn’t be classed as a ball-winner, his defensive positioning and reading of the game complemented Mascherano’s physicality and bite.

Theoretically, Rodgers could put out a side including Sturridge, Suarez, Coutinho and Downing if the two behind them were competent defensively and physically imposing. Suarez is capable of playing in the hole between midfield and attack. His workrate is superb, but he’s no midfielder, so the two players in behind him need to compensate for his licence to roam.

Gerrard has done well playing deeper, but these days he’s best when operating as a ‘regista’ – a role which when performed by Andrea Pirlo is accompanied by two players doing the dirty work while he dictates the game. Gerrard is no longer the all-action, powerhouse of a player we once knew. Lucas is superb at reading the game and nipping in to steal the ball, but he is no Yaya Toure, and will never be the type to boss a midfield by himself. Allen has never been a defensive midfielder, and operates best with two other players close to him, where he can get and give the ball quickly over short distances.

It’s easy to blame Allen for the Southampton defeat – the Welshman seems to be the on-field scapegoat for many of Rodgers’ biggest critics – but he wasn’t even on the pitch for the second half, and helped change things against Spurs when he came on. The truth is, playing with any two of Gerrard, Allen and Lucas behind four attacking players contributing little defensively is like trying to build a skyscraper without foundations: a tower of attacking vanity bound to topple when the slightest pressure is applied.

Shaky Defence

As if that weren’t frivolous enough, the midfield sits in front of a defence that has been shaky – to say the least – all season. Martin Skrtel was never as good as some made out last season when he performed to the limits of his ability. His positioning and reading of the game are at times woeful, compounded by a loss of confidence that comes with being asked to play in a style and system ill-suited to his attributes.

Soon to retire Jamie Carragher has been running on fumes for some time, and Daniel Agger is struggling to perform to his best, perhaps in part due to the lack of a competent defensive partner. With such frailties at the back, selecting four in attack and two midfielders more comfortable on the ball than winning it is bordering on negligence. Had Martin Kelly not been injured early in the season he might now be getting the chance we’ve all expected him to get at some point in the centre of defence. Considering all that, Rodgers could do worse than to throw Andre Wisdom in for the remainder of the season.

Learn from mistakes?

To cut him a little slack, Rodgers isn’t helped by having only one defensive midfielder in his squad. Some might ask why he didn’t address that in either transfer window, but the need for attacking reinforcements was an even more pressing concern. In his post-game comments the Liverpool manager revealed Lucas had a slight fitness problem, but if he was fit enough to sit on the bench and come on at half time, couldn’t he have played from the start?


Whatever his reasons, Rodgers needs to learn a lesson he has impressed on his players: you must win the right to play. That doesn’t apply just to players’ effort levels and attitudes on the pitch, but also to the strategy adopted by the manager himself. You can play with four slick, technically brilliant attacking players, but you must compliment them with players who can win the battle and the ball, providing them the stage on which to entertain. Attack may well be the best form of defence, but all-out attack without a stable base to launch from is just footballing masochism.

Rodgers might have to make a brave decision or two this summer. If we are to persist with 4-2-3-1 and Luis Suarez central in the three, is Lucas enough of a presence to be the most defensive midfielder in the side? Even if Lucas were replaced with someone more combative, would a 33 year old Gerrard have enough physically to be the second midfielder in the ‘2’?

I remain a fan of Brendan Rodgers’ entertaining brand of football. I think he is intelligent enough to learn from his mistakes and brave enough to make sure they are not repeated yet again. That will mean investing in at least one central defender who won’t be bullied this summer, as well as a defensive midfielder to not only compete with Lucas Leiva, but to replace him as the ‘enforcer’ and linchpin on which the team’s attacking play can be mounted.








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发表于 18-3-2013 09:33 PM | 显示全部楼层
痞子酷 发表于 18-3-2013 02:41 PM
我对BR的排阵不愿多加评论,虽然我玩FM经验可能丰富过他。
人家毕竟是现实中球会的教练,怎样都比外人 ...

不关fm的事,好的队打起球来都是有板有路的。

尤其是组织性

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发表于 18-3-2013 09:55 PM | 显示全部楼层
KimD@ngD@ng 发表于 18-3-2013 09:17 PM
昨天在網上看見的分析。不錯下~
Rodgers Needs To Practice What He Preaches

谁可以翻译下,英文不好...读很慢
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 楼主| 发表于 18-3-2013 10:27 PM | 显示全部楼层
姜維 发表于 18-3-2013 09:55 PM
谁可以翻译下,英文不好...读很慢

不會的字就google translate
話說回來,做麼那天Johnson一拿球就被boo?
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