你觉得投资邮票好过纸币吗？ （请写出原因）

keaiwubi

大家来投票看看，最近这里比较静。
而且大家心里答案不一，一起来讨论吧~

谢谢~

versa

就如作者所言，如果以赚钱为出发点，这不是我们应该涉猎的嗜好...

Coins, Paper Money, Or Stamps by Gary Anthony Lacey

What should you collect as a hobby; coins, paper money, or stamps?

Which is the best investment?

It’s strange that some people who collect coins, paper money, or stamps, always want some kind of return on their investment. These are the same people who think nothing of buying a new car and then selling it a few years later for a fraction of what they paid for it. A new car loses value as soon as you drive it on the road!

As for investing in paper money, if someone is buying notes and thinking how much will they be able to get when they sell them again, this person has the wrong hobby. Enjoy collecting for the pleasure and for the fun of it.

Coins and stamps are tangible reminders of years gone by. Yet, while coin collecting is flourishing as a hobby, stamp collecting is decreasing in popularity. Many families who inherit stamp collections are more interested in getting the collection appraised than continuing the collection. You can’t collect something if you don’t know what it is.

Stamp collecting dates back to 1840, when the first stamp was issued in England. One of the earliest indications of stamp collecting is an advertisement from an English newspaper in which a young woman wanted used stamps to wallpaper her room. Soon, post offices discovered stamp collectors as a good source of revenue. From there, stamp collecting took off.

There are no rules about stamp collecting. Some people collect stamps from a certain country while others focus on a particular theme, such as flowers, or ships, or buildings.

Unfortunately, stamp collecting has simply lost its appeal to younger people.

Coin collecting, on the other hand, is at its peak in popularity. Rare or modern coins offer history that collectors can hold in their hand, and every period from the past 2,500 years is reflected in coinage.

Stamps disappear and become part of the ground. A coin can be dug up and, while new varieties of stamps are not really being discovered, new types of coins from all over the world are still being found. How many stamps or bank notes do you think you’ll find while out exploring with a metal detector?

Whilst improperly stored coins can degrade and lessen in value, paper money can be damaged by handling, sunlight, or water. All are subject to flood, fire, or other natural catastrophes.

A stock certificate with half of it burned away is just as good as a mint one in terms of its value on the exchange. In fact, as long as ownership can be proven, it often doesn't even matter if the physical certificate exists. The same can’t be said for paper money.

You can insure against these problems, and go to great lengths to maintain proper storage conditions, but all of this costs money and adds to the cost of the investment, often for many years before there is any return at all.

Today, coin collecting is one of the world’s most popular hobbies. Amateur collectors enjoy coins for their beauty and rarity. Added to this is the excitement of searching for and finding specific coins and the challenge of identifying new ones.

Why is coin collecting thriving and stamp collecting dying? Coins are still being used and are still fascinating. It is an investment as well as a hobby. Coins continue to go up in value while many stamps are at the peak value they will ever receive. Furthermore, many are going down in value.

Enjoy your hobby, and consider whatever you invest in it to be pleasure money, the same way you would count money you spent going to ball games, or dining out, or buying new clothes. Then, whatever you or your family get out of your collection is pure profit, whether it is more or less than what you originally paid.

After all, if you spend $20 a week going to the movies, you don't expect to get anything back for your $1,000 a year collection of ticket stubs, do you?

I believe there is room in both the collecting of coins and paper money for both collectors and investors.

The important thing to remember in investing in coins or banknotes is rarity and desirability.

cloudlum

对我来说邮票和钱币都不是拿来投资的，是用来收集欣赏的。投资最好是股票外汇啦

ch_leong

当邮票无人问津的时候，他的数量就会大大减少。可是，就是那么一下子，热了起来，就有很多人疯狂要找。看看马来西亚2012年第一版龙票。当然邮票要重点投资，还有花一点时间研究市场在哪里。不然，买了会来后，不能升值，收藏不当，更会贬值。

ipoh

＂邮票和钱币都不是拿来投资的，是用来收集欣赏的＂非常同意。

如今的印刷太先进了，我相信所有的邮票复制版都在电脑内，POS任何时间都可以从印。

邮票可以赚得小钱，不过也有几百％，如RM１的卖RM３还是有很多人会购买，如果想RM１卖RM１００就困难了。如龙票我就不明白为什么有人花百多块去购买，等ANNNUAL STAMP COLLECTION的邮票册推出的时候才购买，最多两百多整年２０１２的邮票都具有，那不是比较好！

如今我们还可以从POS购买到２００３年，１０年以前的邮票册，试问１０年以前的邮票如何值钱，只要２００３的任何一张的价钱超过RM２０块，那么购买邮票册，还好。

GagahSetia3.0

cloudlum 发表于 8-11-2012 10:10 PM
对我来说邮票和钱币都不是拿来投资的，是用来收集欣赏的。投资最好是股票外汇啦

的确是拿来欣赏和纯粹爱好。。。。

但我认为最好的投资不是股票和外汇，而是投资黄金。

ck_07

ipoh 发表于 19-1-2013 07:28 AM
＂邮票和钱币都不是拿来投资的，是用来收集欣赏的＂非常同意。

如今的印刷太先进了，我相信所有的邮票复 ...

你的想法和我一样，是贵点，但设计不错。。。

我也看过有些人也试图从邮册里找些有价值的邮票，但不是每一种邮册都有。。。
比如那个龙袍RM5是限量版，邮册应该没有。

kiguss

ipoh 发表于 19-1-2013 07:28 AM
＂邮票和钱币都不是拿来投资的，是用来收集欣赏的＂非常同意。

如今的印刷太先进了，我相信所有的邮票复 ...

邮票册的价格应该超出 里头邮票的面值吧。。。
请问大大， 邮票册里头有小型张吗？ 没有买过不知道。。。

不知何时POS 会出像中国的年册空册， 可以放邮票， 又可以参考里头的解说。。。

ck_07

kiguss 发表于 24-1-2013 08:21 PM
邮票册的价格应该超出 里头邮票的面值吧。。。
请问大大， 邮票册里头有小型张吗？ 没有买过不知道。。。 ...

小型张是有的，早期的应该超出近一倍的价钱，现在的应该多过一倍。。。

如果我没有记错。

kiguss

ck_07 发表于 24-1-2013 09:03 PM
小型张是有的，早期的应该超出近一倍的价钱，现在的应该多过一倍。。。

如果我没有记错。 ...

你有一张一张去算面值哦~~~
超过一倍？ 难怪年册一年比一年贵很多。。。

ck_07

kiguss 发表于 24-1-2013 09:14 PM
你有一张一张去算面值哦~~~
超过一倍？ 难怪年册一年比一年贵很多。。。

当年我真的一张一张去算。。。

应该是拿2003和2007/2010来做sample。

邮局还有卖所以我知道价钱，更早的就不懂了。
以下是年册的价钱。

2002 - 120
2003 - 100
2004 - 100
2005 - 135
2006 - 165
2007 - 180
2008 - 160
2009 - 160
2010 - 200
2011 - 200

90年代的是几年combine一本的。。。
有谁得空去算下。

搅屎棍

ck_07 发表于 24-1-2013 09:19 PM
当年我真的一张一张去算。。。

应该是拿2003和2007/2010来做sample。

请问要去哪里才可以买到往年的年册？

ck_07

搅屎棍 发表于 12-6-2013 10:18 PM
请问要去哪里才可以买到往年的年册？

各州的邮政总行还有些货，KL总行应该比较多。。。

或者去邮局website网购 http://www.postme.com.my/post-shoppe/stamp-album.html

外面我很少看到有人卖。

搅屎棍

ck_07 发表于 12-6-2013 10:22 PM
各州的邮政总行还有些货，KL总行应该比较多。。。

或者去邮局website网购 http://www.postme.com.my/p ...

谢谢，已经离开邮集太久了。
我看是时候慢慢找回收集邮票的兴趣。

san-@0327

收邮票比收钱币更重本。

kiguss

san-@0327 发表于 13-6-2013 07:30 PM
收邮票比收钱币更重本。

主要是邮票种类多...
纸币不便宜的哦~~~

KitaPengyu

我以前是收本地邮票的， 但出得太快带多。当时还在读书，子弹有限， 结果停去了。本地票除了很旧的海峡票比较保值，外国票比较好。本地纸币比较热门。要看在那一个市场。

san-@0327

kiguss 发表于 14-6-2013 03:02 PM
主要是邮票种类多...
纸币不便宜的哦~~~

是罗，就因为邮票的种类太多，所以才中了票毒，大出血了。

ozy214

重点收藏邮票，再专注于纸币/硬币收藏  

europeservice

邮票的价格漂浮太大。　上得高也跌得快。　
建议收藏银或金古币，以欧洲钱币最为稳定也有艺术，历史，文化价值。　
欧洲古钱币在奥地利１５世纪已由奥地利王国开始收藏。　
你可以由小收藏开始，以强国如德国，奥地利，瑞士，俄罗斯等等开始。
马来西亚那些流通的，都是人家在炒作。　现在流通的钱币，拿到小贩面前都是那个价值，不会是你投资的几倍。那是炒家说，傻子买或炒家找水鱼的。
认真看３－５年的投资，以金或银都是很好的保值和升值。　

http://www.khm.at/en/visit/colle ... ected-masterpieces/

History of the collection

The interest in old coins goes back a long way. For rulers, discoveries of buried treasures-insofar as these contained coins made of precious metals-represented a welcome increase in their supplies of gold and silver. Either the pieces were melted down for their metal, or they were admitted to the ruler’s hoard. It was from just such hoards that some of the later art collections first arose. This fact puts coin collections among the world’s oldest museum-related institutions. This also applies to the Vienna Coin Cabinet, which arose from the Habsburg collection, which had been continuously maintained and expanded.

The oldest extant inventory was established around 1547/50 under Ferdinand I (1503-1564). The coins listed by Leopold Heyperger, the emperor’s treasurer, are almost all of ancient Roman origin.

Archduke Ferdinand II (1529-1595), son of the emperor, ruler of Tirol, and likewise an enthusiastic collector of art objects, had his own coin collection. The cabinets in which he stored his coins still exist today: they are kept in the Vienna Coin Cabinet and at Ambras Castle.

Emperor Rudolf II (1552-1612), who made his imperial seat of Prague into a cultural centre, likewise expanded the holdings of the Habsburg coin collection and distinguished himself above all as a patron of the medallist’s art.

But it was only a century after Rudolf’s death that the Imperial Coin Cabinet was to truly awaken and come into its own. Emperor Charles VI (1685-1740) appointed the Swedish academic Carl Gustav Heraeus as Inspector of Medals and Antiquities in 1712. Heraeus was assigned the task of combining Ferdinand’s collection from the Court Library, the Treasury of Archduke Leopold Wilhelm housed at the Stallburg, and the Coin Collection of Ambras Castle in order to establish a unified imperial cabinet at a single location.

Emperor Francis I Stephen of Lorraine (1708-1765), husband of Maria Theresia (1717-1780), added a new dimension to the imperial coin collecting policy. He placed his main emphasis on coinage that was modern at the time. The year 1748 is one of the highpoints in the history of the Numismatic Collection in Vienna. At the time, Francis I Stephen of Lorraine ordered that the Numophylacium Carolino-Austriacum and the Numophylacium imperatoris Francisci I be combined. The overall inventory prepared for this occasion listed nearly 50,000 items, including 21,000 ancient coins.

In the year 1774, the secularized Jesuit priest Joseph Hilarius Eckhel was appointed head of the Coin Cabinet, and this man was to become an important figure for ancient numismatics in general: His system of categorizing coins according to geographic and chronological criteria, known as the “Eckhelsche Ordnung,” is still in use today.

Furthermore, Eckhel's ten-volume Doctrina nummorum veterum achieved worldwide fame and admiration for the Imperial Cabinet for the first time. During the 19th century, the findings of other historical disciplines were to further transform the field of numismatics. Purely descriptive numismatics was joined by an interest in the history of money as such, a fact which also lead to the expansion of collecting activities. Today, the Coin Cabinet contains far more than just coins, including other instruments as well such as paper money and paper securities, tax stamps, tokens and tickets, seals and seal stamps, coin scales and weights, orders, medals of honour and historic coin and medal minting stamps. In this, the Coin Cabinet has also become a collection point for documents that represent money in all its forms and functions.

Upon the opening of the newly established Kunsthistorisches Museum on Vienna’s Ring Road in 1891, the various imperial collections-which up to then had been housed in various buildings-were finally brought together in one place. The “Cabinet of Coins and Antiquities” was initially kept in rooms on the first floor before being moved to the second floor in 1899. Since 1900, the Coin Cabinet has existed separately from the Antiquity Collection as a collection in its own right.