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Saab JAS-39NG赢的巴西36架战机采购共45亿美金

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发表于 19-12-2013 10:22 AM | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
巴西政府宣布Saab JAS-39NG赢的巴西F-X战机计划,计划将采购36架一共45亿美金,该国防部长在说, 他们是经过漫长认真的分析和考虑后所做出决定,后续合约方面需要一年时间谈判,估计将在2014年底正式签约,预计2018年开始每年12架接收。

详情请看下面报道。
http://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2013/12/governo-anuncia-compra-de-36-cacas-suecos-do-modelo-gripen.html
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 楼主| 发表于 19-12-2013 10:27 AM | 显示全部楼层
JAS-39NG 36架共45亿美金, 单价大概1.25亿美金, 估计包括零件,武器,训练和维修保养.
所以JAS-39NG不是很多人认为的很便宜. NG版很多新科技,成本不便宜. 但是由于单发引擎,估计可以剩很多燃料吧.

如果大马采购18架估计也要22.5亿至25亿美金了.
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发表于 19-12-2013 01:03 PM | 显示全部楼层
waja2000 发表于 19-12-2013 10:27 AM
JAS-39NG 36架共45亿美金, 单价大概1.25亿美金, 估计包括零件,武器,训练和维修保养.
所以JAS-39NG不是 ...


阵风到口的肥肉又丢了?


巴西政府經過多年考慮,決定向瑞典採購至少三十六架JAS-39鷹獅戰機,這份軍購合約總值四十五億美元,鷹獅是壓倒美國波音的F18超級大黃蜂戰機及法國陣風戰機而中標

http://www.881903.com/Page/ZH-TW/newsdetail.aspx?ItemId=684790&csid=261_367 本帖最后由 cyberjaye 于 19-12-2013 01:40 PM 编辑

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发表于 19-12-2013 01:35 PM | 显示全部楼层

巴西会获得知识产权,还有美国的发动机等不少其他国家的部件,不过看起来要在巴西进行国产化生产的样子
华尔街日报称技术转让是关键因素,80%的部件将在巴西生产

Swedish-Made Fighters Shoot Down Bids from Boeing and Dassault
SÃO PAULO—Brazil on Wednesday awarded Sweden's Saab SAABF -2.64% AB a $4.5 billion contract to supply 36 fighter jets in a surprise decision that indicates a big vote for affordable military spending.
Brazil will now open negotiations to agree terms of the contract with Saab, which could take another 10 to 12 months, Defense Minister Celso Amorim told reporters. The first Saab Gripen jets could be ready by 2018, and Saab would deliver 12 jets per year, he said

Brazilian Air Force Brigadier Juniti Saito said of the key factors was Saab's willingness to share technology with Brazil, and that about 80% of the plane's parts will be made in Brazil. The aircraft will be built through a partnership with the Brazilian Air Force and Brazilian aircraft manufacturer Embraer SA, he said.

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发表于 21-12-2013 11:26 AM | 显示全部楼层
这个价格估计包括技术转让,人员培训,10年维护保养,其实还好
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发表于 22-12-2013 09:54 AM | 显示全部楼层
Grippen中标其中一个原因是因为美国窃听巴西人的电话隐私。包括他们的女总统。
一气之下F18被淘汰。
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发表于 22-12-2013 11:48 AM | 显示全部楼层
WHY~G 发表于 22-12-2013 09:54 AM
Grippen中标其中一个原因是因为美国窃听巴西人的电话隐私。包括他们的女总统。
一气之下F18被淘汰。

本来巴西最想买阵风的,最后因为后勤的保养问题。。。
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发表于 22-12-2013 12:53 PM | 显示全部楼层
cyberjaye 发表于 22-12-2013 11:48 AM
本来巴西最想买阵风的,最后因为后勤的保养问题。。。

没办法阵风后勤是天价,
而且很容易发生水土不服。
法国人目前的最大问题是如何降低制造和后勤成本。
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发表于 8-1-2014 08:44 PM | 显示全部楼层
WHY~G 发表于 22-12-2013 12:53 PM
没办法阵风后勤是天价,
而且很容易发生水土不服。
法国人目前的最大问题是如何降低制造和后勤成本。


三十年的阵风program,没有出口过一架
法国总统也是很可怜,来马的时候说他很有信心。一回去,那吉就说不买新战机。
害那些等今年军展公布买阵风的仙家下不了台。
阵风现在希望在UAE(美国拦路)和印度(大选拦路)。。。


Brazil deals new blow to French Rafale sales drive
France's plans to sell its Rafale fighter jet were dealt another blow when Brazill decided to buy a Swedish-built plane just after President François Hollande visited the country.

Brazil announced on on Wednesday it had chosen the Gripen NG built by Sweden's Saab in a multi-billion-dollar contract for 36 new fighter jets, rather than French firm Dassault's Rafale and US-based Boeing's F/A-18.

The French government yesterday played down its failure to convince Brazil to buy Rafale fighter jets, insisting it still hoping to sell them to India and the Gulf nations.

The move was another blow to the Rafale programme, which has failed to win a single foreign sale after nearly three decades of development that has cost tens of billions of euros.

And negotiations on the Indian sale have dragged out since January 2012, when Delhi chose Dassault for exclusive negotiation, with a decision unlikely before next year's election there.

Rafale is a state-of-the-art fighter but countries make the choice depending on their strategic requirements, French strategy expert Corentin Brustlein told RFI.

Negotiations with Brazil date back to 2009, when then presidents Nicolas Sarkozy and Lula da Silva made an agreement in principle on the sale and technology transfer.

But since then Dilma Roussef has replaced da Silva after 2010's election and, although she is a member of his Workers' Party, defence policy has changed slightly with changes at the top of the Brazilain air force.

Massive protests against the cost of the World Cup have led the government to take a closer look at expenses and the five-billion-euro bill for the Rafale proved too much for a country with no special enemies and a history of military dictatorships.

In choosing the Gripen NG, the government chose the smallest, cheapest plane on offer, which is also the easiest to build.

The decision is bad news for Dassault and the 500 companies who would have worked with it but it's also bad news for the French government's attempt to balance its budget, since the sale would have enables it to cancel orders for the French air force.


http://www.english.rfi.fr/americas/20131220-brazil-deals-new-blow-french-rafale-sales-drive



本帖最后由 cyberjaye 于 8-1-2014 08:45 PM 编辑

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发表于 8-1-2014 11:02 PM | 显示全部楼层
cyberjaye 发表于 8-1-2014 08:44 PM
三十年的阵风program,没有出口过一架
法国总统也是很可怜,来马的时候说他很有信心。一回去 ...

阵风真的很可怜,或许打从设计到量产之间不知道哪里出错。
其实问题根源似乎早自幻影2000就开始出现了。
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发表于 8-1-2014 11:15 PM | 显示全部楼层
JAS-39就是瑞典组装的美国货,鸭翼的气动和飞控都是美国解决的,到头来还是买了美国货,有这钱还不如买俄罗斯的SU35呢,俄罗斯媒体每个月都给中国装备2队SU35,10多年俄罗斯媒体都给中国装备上千架SU35了。SU30也不错,再怎么样也比JAS-39强得多,足够让巴西在南美横行了。巴西貌似也就和阿根廷有点小矛盾,阿根廷穷的都买西班牙淘汰的2手幻影F1了,标准的入门级2代机,随便买点儿三代机就能干翻阿根廷。
话说阿根廷唯一一个从发达国家降级成发展中国家的奇葩,现在穷的都快赶上非洲了。实在不行让梅西改中国国籍,然后让中国送你2队点儿三代半飞机。

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