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Long term loan account 如何进账
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-我公司借了一笔SME Loan,Amount RM120000+利息30000=总共RM150000.-Term=3年
每个月还给银行 RM4166.66.
我应该要Debit 什么Account,Credit什么 Account 喔? |
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发表于 20-10-2010 10:08 AM
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我的做法:
Borrowing
Dr Bank 120,000
Cr Long Term Liability - SME Loan 80,000
Cr Short Term Liability - SME Loan 40,000
Dr SME Loan interest (P/L) 10,000
Cr Provision for SME Loan interest (B/S - current liability) 10,000
(接下来两年都要provide这个figure)
Monthyl Repayment
Dr Short Term Liability - SME Loan 3,333.33
Dr Provision for SME Loan interest 833.33
Cr Bank 4,166.66 |
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楼主 |
发表于 20-10-2010 10:18 AM
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我的做法:
Borrowing
Dr Bank 120,000
Cr Long Term Liability - SME Loan 80,000
Cr Short Term Liability - SME Loan 40,000
Dr SME Loan interest (P/L) 10,000
Cr Provision for SME Loan interest (B/S - current liability) 10,000
(接下来两年都要provide这个figure)
Monthyl Repayment
Dr Short Term Liability - SME Loan 3,333.33
Dr Provision for SME Loan interest 833.33
Cr Bank 4,166.66
hopeless84 发表于 20-10-2010 10:08 AM 
谢谢,但是有点不明白,SME loan interest (P&L) 10,000 是怎样算出来的?还有就是为什么会有Short Term Liability - SME Loan 40,000的? |
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发表于 20-10-2010 10:28 AM
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谢谢,但是有点不明白,SME loan interest (P&L) 10,000 是怎样算出来的?还有就是为什么会有Short Ter ...
Jiaming333 发表于 20-10-2010 10:18 AM 
total borrowing =120,000
monthly repayment = 4,166.66
我假设:
loan principal repayment = 3,333.33
interest payment = 833.33
So, borrowing repayable within 12 mths (equal to 39,999.96) classified as current liability (short-term borrowing)
Remaining classified as long term liability/borrowing
provision for loan interest = 833.33 x 12 = 9,999.96
我刚才懒惰算就直接拿30,000 loan interest divide to 3 yrs来算咯
最重要是你懂怎样进double entry 吧, figure只是给你参考 |
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楼主 |
发表于 20-10-2010 10:51 AM
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本帖最后由 Jiaming333 于 20-10-2010 10:52 AM 编辑
Borrowing
Dr Bank 120,000
Cr Long Term Liability - SME Loan 80,000
Cr Short Term Liability - SME Loan 40,000
Dr SME Loan interest (P/L) 10,000
Cr Provision for SME Loan interest (B/S - current liability) 10,000
(接下来两年都要provide这个figure)
Monthyl Repayment
Dr Short Term Liability - SME Loan 3,333.33
Dr Provision for SME Loan interest 833.33
Cr Bank 4,166.66
hopeless84 发表于 20-10-2010 10:08 AM 
谢谢,但是可以详细点吗?我不明白为何要Credit Provision for SME Loan interest (B/S- current liability) 10,000的?如果这样做,三年后B/S-Current liability 不是增加30,000了? |
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发表于 20-10-2010 10:59 AM
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谢谢,但是可以详细点吗?我不明白为何要Credit Provision for SME Loan interest (B/S- current liabi ...
Jiaming333 发表于 20-10-2010 10:51 AM 
你每月repayment的时候就会 Dr Provision的咯,到最后会使 NIL得 |
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楼主 |
发表于 20-10-2010 11:56 AM
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你每月repayment的时候就会 Dr Provision的咯,到最后会使 NIL得
hopeless84 发表于 20-10-2010 10:59 AM 
还有其他method吗?如果好像Hire purchases double entries这样进可以吗?
Dr Bank 120,000
Dr Provision for SME Loan interest (B/S - current liability) 30,000
Cr Loan payable 120,000
Cr Loan payable 30,000
Monthly Repayment
Dr Loan payable 4166.66
Cr Bank 4,166.66
年尾做Journal Entry
Dr SME Loan interest (P/L) 10,000
Cr Provision for SME Loan interest (B/S - current liability) 10,000
这样可以吗? |
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发表于 20-10-2010 01:40 PM
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term loan的利息不是直接用30K/36months的阿。
回复 2# hopeless84 |
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发表于 20-10-2010 01:48 PM
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可以考虑这样:
当银行给你loan:
DR Bank 120K
CR Loan 129K
没必要分long term or short term, 到了年底,让auditor帮你reclassify
每个月还贷款:
DR Loan 4,166.66
CR Bank 4,166.66
到了年底,拿到loan statement,把所有的利息加总:
DR Term loan interest xxx
CR Loan xxx
然后,在检查看是否你的outstanding term loan amount 是否和loan statement的一样,就可以了。
回复 1# Jiaming333 |
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发表于 20-10-2010 06:21 PM
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还有其他method吗?如果好像Hire purchases double entries这样进可以吗?
Dr Bank 120,000
Dr Prov ...
Jiaming333 发表于 20-10-2010 11:56 AM 
不是很认同你的做法
你 yr end的时候就会有loan payable bal of RM100,000.08 [RM150,000 - (4166.66x12)]
其实我provide一个figure for loan interest的道理很简单
通常我们有了liability才会有payment/expenses,所以当我知道你一年要付的interest是RM9999.96,我就provide 一个figure在curent liability, 每个月的payment就deduct那个provision到了年尾就扣完了。
不懂你能接受我的解释吗? |
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发表于 20-10-2010 06:24 PM
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term loan的利息不是直接用30K/36months的阿。
回复 hopeless84
ks_w 发表于 20-10-2010 01:40 PM 
他term loan interest因该是 (RM833.33 X36 + RM833.45) (根据一般上hp/term loan repayment mode)
所以前两年term loan interest 只有 RM9999.96 instead of RM10k。 |
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发表于 20-10-2010 06:54 PM
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一般的term loan interest不可能每个月都一样的。就好像还房子贷款,刚开始都是给比较高的利息,还的母钱比较少的。到后期,利息越来越少的,母钱就越来越多的。不应该是这样的吗?
他term loan interest因该是 (RM833.33 X36 + RM833.45) (根据一般上hp/term loan repayment mode)
所 ...
hopeless84 发表于 20-10-2010 06:24 PM  |
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发表于 20-10-2010 07:11 PM
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一般的term loan interest不可能每个月都一样的。就好像还房子贷款,刚开始都是给比较高的利息,还的母钱比 ...
ks_w 发表于 20-10-2010 06:54 PM 
这就要问lz了,他一开始就说interest 是RM30k for 3 yrs
觉得interest 算法就像car loan, 是fixed料的
可能这就是SME loan和普通 term loan得不同吧 |
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发表于 20-10-2010 07:13 PM
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provision for loan interest主要还是要看那loan interest的算法
要看过offer letter才懂 |
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发表于 20-10-2010 09:20 PM
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其实,我有些顾客也是有和楼主的情况类似的。就是一早就已经知道利息的金额。但银行每年来的statement会显示每个月的利息金额是不一样的。
我是觉得,按照我的做法,肯定不会出错。因为利息金额直接从bank statement拿就好了。方便极了
回复 13# hopeless84 |
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发表于 20-10-2010 09:22 PM
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发表于 20-10-2010 09:23 PM
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发表于 21-10-2010 11:07 AM
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可以考虑这样:
当银行给你loan:
DR Bank 120K
CR Loan 129K
没必要分long term or short term ...
ks_w 发表于 20-10-2010 01:48 PM 
谢谢ks_w,为什么CR Loan 129K 的? |
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发表于 21-10-2010 11:35 AM
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打错了,是CR 120K 
谢谢ks_w,为什么CR Loan 129K 的?
Jiaming333 发表于 21-10-2010 11:07 AM  |
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发表于 21-10-2010 12:04 PM
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可以考虑这样:
当银行给你loan:
DR Bank 120K
CR Loan 120K
没必要分long term or short term, 到了年底,让auditor帮你reclassify
每个月还贷款:
DR Loan 4,166.66
CR Bank 4,166.66
到了年底,拿到loan statement,把所有的利息加总:
DR Term loan interest xxx
CR Loan xxx
然后,在检查看是否你的outstanding term loan amount 是否和loan statement的一样,就可以了。
ks_w 发表于 20-10-2010 01:48 PM 
30K 的interest 不用先放去B&S 吗?但是为什么Hire Purchases 的需要开一个Hire purchases interest in suspenses 但是SME Loan 不需要呢? |
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